Hello! I'm Cantankerous Old Phart and this is my first post.

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Hi and welcome,
Unless you can authenticate the devices, they are presumably clones of the originals.
Photos can help, but if they are clones, they may have a residual value of about $15 each depending on condition.
If the Nemesis had an 18650 battery installed, then it is missing a component called the "kick" tube and is NOT complete.
The svoemesto is called a kayfun.
Many models of the kayfun have been released by the OEM and by Chinese clone manufacturers.
Many are virtually identical and difficult to authenticate.

You may offer them for sale here in the classified section, but it is suggest that you achieve 5 posts to activate Personal Messaging for communicating with prospective buyers.

Hope that helps.
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I
Yes, it had an 18650 in it and I have no idea what a kick tube is.
 

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Drat! I was hoping this would be simple! I suppose that I shall have to get off of my ascot and photograph the components. Maybe tomorrow!

Do the fakes also display the proper logos? If so, how does one begin to authenticate a piece of equipment?
As you could see around the watermarks, the clones and authentics are difficult to discern.
If you have a vape shop close to you, they might have some insights.
If you throw a few photos up,"we" might be able to help, but it may not be so cut and dry.
Did the estate have any boxes or paperwork included with the device(s)?
Do you know anything about the previous owner?
Nemesis Devices
SvoëMesto – The Difference
The links are to the OEMs of the respective devices. You might be able to gather some additional information from browsing or contacting them directly. Both companies add serial numbers to the units for tracking production and ownership.

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I
ETA: Kick ring/tube is an adapter that is part of the set (to allow use of an internal power regulating "chip" known as a kick) that if missing, would need to be disclosed to a prospective buyer.
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I say pursue it if you are interested, why not? I will also say, I worked in a violin shop though high school and people brought us violins ALL the time. Most were Chinese, worth less than the cost of remediation, a few were German made, barely worth cleaning up on consignment.

ONE was by a very famous Italian maker and I FELL in love with it and desperately sought for it NOT to be authenticated so I could talk my parents into stepping me up, but it sounded WAYYYY to good and was authenticated and alas, my parents would not pony up the 60K and change. It would have been like 5K unauthenticated, alas, but who/what/where why is important.

And those are likely your odds, but I wish you all the good luck with it although they do sound in rather rough shape.

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Thanx all.
I have learned that the ring on top of the 'battery tube assembly'(originally containing an 18650 battery that I discarded) that I presumed was merely decorative is probably what you refer to as a 'kick' ring (I cannot remove it at this time without using tools that might damage the finish). I have also learned that the next ring (upwards toward the mouthpiece) has two tiny indents that are somehow related to the next ring with two holes (I erroneously assumed to be for attaching a wrist lanyard) in it. I have since learned that they are for the insertion of a tool to alter the relative alignment between the two rings. I am unable to manipulate these rings at this time without using tools that might damage the finish.
The next ring is the 'deck' (I assume). This segment does separate easily but when you attempt to re-attach it, care mast be taken to assure that the 'central axial screw threads' engage before the external threads to prevent binding.
The 'Deck' apparently contains two rings. The lower ring has one flat-blade adjusting screw, a fill valve port, and a vent. The gap between the upper and lower rings is 'set' and I cannot alter it at this time without using tools that may damage the finish.
As mentioned above, there are segments in this device that I have yet to explored because I am not properly equipped. If this device possesses a serial (or model) number, it is not apparent on any of the surfaces that I have revealed. The manufacturer's websites don't say where to find them and their photos of a typical ID plate do not resemble any surface that I have encountered.
My nearest SVOEMESTO Reseller (according to their webpage) is in San Antonio,Texas. About 260 miles away. My search for a local repair shop is presently fruitless. The vape selling shops that I have visited (2) do not work on them and are un-aware of of anyone who does.
I am about to try to figger out how to upload some photos to this site. Gonna eat now!
ALAS!
My saga continues.
 
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I found and purchased what I later found to be a 'Vape Pen' at an estate sale. Not being familiar with this vice I commenced disassembling it to determine what made it tick.
I have determined that it consists of (starting at the bottom and progressing upward) a spring loaded push-button switch sporting a logo denoting it as a product by Atmomixani. It is threaded into a tube consisting of two pieces threaded together. One of them bears a logo and lettering that says 'Nemesis' and the number 6342. When I got this pen this tube contained a battery. I examined it and determined that it wasn't leaking and disposed of it (I don't like to guess with second hand batteries ).
Next is what I believe to be a re-build-able atomizing deck with a logo and the name Svoemesto. It will apparently disassemble into many smaller components to facilitate rebuilding. The top of it reminds me of the 'Tin Man's' hat from the 'Wizard of Oz'.
The next section is another tube with a diameter that is quite similar to the battery tube but is only about three quarters of an inch long. I assume this to be a vapor chamber as it was quite oily.
Topping the device is a perforated cap for the chamber that reduces the diameter to accommodate the removable mouthpiece.
All of these components are non-magnetic (no glass parts) and I assume them to be stainless steel.
The battery tube with the 'Nemesis' markings has some tool-marks that imply that the previous owner had some frustration issues. All other surfaces show wear and scratches and all of the various o-rings would warrant immediate replacement if I was going to put this device to use.
With all of this in mind I have no use for this device and will be happy to sell it to someone who is interested in it but I don't know how to find someone who is interested in it.
Can you educate me? Any help will be appreciated.

Here are a few photos, hopefully.
 

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Izan

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Here are a few photos, hopefully.
Try to separate the units here:
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Kayfun 3.1 – SvoëMesto
More info here:

They look old enough to be authentic, but "old" is not a valid authentication method.

I will have to defer to any members that may have other insights.
@DaveP (TIA, sorry to bother you)

In your place, I would contact Lisa or Keith at Cremedevape.
They are exceptionally helpful and have been authorized Svoemesto resellers for many many years.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Cheers
I
 
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I have also learned that the next ring (upwards toward the mouthpiece) has two tiny indents that are somehow related to the next ring with two holes (I erroneously assumed to be for attaching a wrist lanyard) in it. I have since learned that they are for the insertion of a tool to alter the relative alignment between the two rings. I am unable to manipulate these rings at this time without using tools that might damage the finish.
These two tiny indents and two holes you are talking about are for the airflow, depending on the atomiser that is used with the device. Some atomisers require airflow intake from underneath the atomiser and that's when you allign the indents with the two holes- to allow the air inside. I don't think you are supposed to insert any tool into these holes.
 
I have no intention of investing any of my money into this thing because I can't rationalize using it. I'm 70 and have shortness of breath.
HOWEVER, someone out there wants it and regardless of how much they offer me, I will probably make a small profit. I paid very little for it because the company running the estate sale did not even know what it was. I purchased it because I didn't know what it was.
I may have mentioned to this forum that I am a know-it-all and enjoy finding a whatsit to ponder over. It has already been worth the initial investment by entertaining my interest for a few hours.
If there is a rich 'enthusiast' out there I am quite willing to sell it to him for an astronomically large amount of cash as long as the sum is sufficient to inspire me to get off my posterior instead of depositing it in a convenient waste basket.
 
Try to separate the units here:
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Kayfun 3.1 – SvoëMesto
More info here:

They look old enough to be authentic, but "old" is not a valid authentication method.

I will have to defer to any members that may have other insights.
@DaveP (TIA, sorry to bother you)

In your place, I would contact Lisa or Keith at Cremedevape.
They are exceptionally helpful and have been authorized Svoemesto resellers for many many years.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Cheers
I

Is this helpful? OOPS wrong seam you wished to open the seam immediately above the on with the two holes in it. I can't open that one yet. Is that the one that will have the data plate?
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These two tiny indents and two holes you are talking about are for the airflow, depending on the atomiser that is used with the device. Some atomisers require airflow intake from underneath the atomiser and that's when you allign the indents with the two holes- to allow the air inside. I don't think you are supposed to insert any tool into these holes.
That also sounds reasonable. I was able to determine that they were involved with the airflow but I was unable to determine how the were used.
 

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Is this helpful? OOPS wrong seam you wished to open the seam immediately above the on with the two holes in it. I can't open that one yet. Is that the one that will have the data plate?View attachment 888705
Upon further research, the early Kayfuns may not have been serialized.
However, separating the units is still desirable.

Cheers
I
 

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Hello @Cantankerous Old Phart, I don't know if one of those tools that you can use to remove oil filters may be of some use.

The ones I'm thinking of are a strap loop with an attachment that fits on to a ratchet, you tighten them up and then they use friction to remove things. But you'd need to be sure that you're turning things the right way to unscrew them as all you'd end up doing is tightening them further.

And with a bit of TLC it would look a lot better, as it does look like someone has treated it like what they refer to as a beater mod.
 
The strap-wrench idea crossed my mind but I am unaware of one that is small enough. I was planning on wrapping the components with electricians tape and applying hose-clamps of the type that have a screw to tighten it. Then I will apply a common set of pliers to supply enough leverage to unseat the problem seams.
I rarely have a project that requires me to worry about the 'finish' on a device so I'm just 'cobbling' a makeshift solution that will open the seams once. I expect the parts to go back together with no problems. As far as TLC, I will assume that the new owner will want to polish it himself if needed. I think the finish that it has implies a warmth and friendliness that comes with frequent and loving use. (loosely translated, that means that I'm to lazy to apply TLC.)
 

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I was trying to think of a an engineering process where items are put into a machine with what looked like either plastic or ceramic media and was kind of tumbled, so it gives a kind of worn finish and could help even the scratches out a little.

As doing some things by hand is a pain, stabwood comes to mind but it does look nice when finished well.
 
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