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Welcome to ECF! And, congrats on your upcoming 6 month mark. If you go to your profile you can put in your location (it can be just your state or country if you don’t want to share exactly). It’ll help people when they’re answering any questions you have, as laws and regulations and availability are vastly different across the globe.
Nothing is better for you than a breathe of clear clean fresh air. That being said I enjoy vaping and it has let me be sugar and grain free since December 25th. Instead of a desert I just find a vape with a flavor that will kill/control the cravings. As a diabetic vaping has helped me more with my A1C levels than anything else. In less than 6 months I am down to "pre-diabetic" levels.
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Hello, and Thank You for your warm welcome. I joined ECF for several reasons, but most importantly to gain information and knowledge. I am a recent convert and I see vaping as having great potential as a cessation tool, but find the industry of my new found solution in peril. This leads me to the question, is vaping truly "less harm"? Granted, at this point there seems to be little conclusive research and a whole lot of "need more research" conclusions on places like PubMed. I am hoping that the other participants on ECF will direct me to peer reviewed factual data, not only for my personal edification but as an advocacy tool. As I see it, the industry is in peril because it lacks the kind of citizen participation required to persuade the dispositions of our policy makers. We need to remember that legislators seek the approval of voters "only at the ballot box", and once in office they seek the approval of their peers, and if at this point you are fully convinced that vaping is a valid solution, then you better start to make your voice heard on the local, state and federal levels and threaten the ballot box; otherwise your legislators will indeed find the approval of their peers.
The downright lies that are being bounded about in the US are indicative of a far more widespread problem and are far beyond the scope of just the vape issue.
I am English and live in France and although rules have been put in place in Europe the generally accepted opinion is that vaping is roughly 95% safer than smoking.
Here is a link to a very good and interesting USA based youtube account called regulator watch which tries to wade through some of the multi-dimensional vaping and BT related problems and lies being bandied about.....it is a good watch
Regulator Watch
Good luck to you.
less harm than what is the question.
Less harm than cigarettes? Vastly. Numbers like like 95% safer are bandied about.
Less harm than iQOS? Almost certainly though numbers are being kept secret
Less harm than other smoking cessation methods?
Depends. Some seem to be less safe, while others may be more safe. It does tend to work better than any of em though.
“Salts” vs “Freebase”
both of these are marketing terms invented by JUUL. The term the JUUL scientists themselves use are protonated and unprotonated. Unprotonated “freebase” nic has been studied publicly since the 1950’s and the body of research is large and well known. Unprotonated Nicotine itself is largely harmless. No cancer or respiratory problems.
Protonated nic or “salts” on the other hand are largely brand new, have been studied by only one corporation, JUUL, and all such data is secret. For “salts” there is effectively no data at all.
Less harm than not smoking at all? No, or at least we have to assume not. Breathing anything at all including air is less than safe. Of course NOT breathing air is even less safe so we do it anyway.
depends on what bit you are talking about, but in many cases yes. Ecig development moves faster than public research can keep up
otherwise translated as “we’d like more funding please”
It’s actually got a decent amount of that. The problem is that it is fight two of the most monied industries in the country: big tobacco and big Pharma. Both are simple market share issues. The amount of money these groups have though is flat out outlandish. So much that they are able to actually direct anti-smoking advocates to do their work for them through indirect funding. (Making a third anti vaping group btw)
Hello and welcome to ECF. Congratulations on kicking the cigarettes to the curb.
Howdy and welcome . There’s a lot of that here. It’s also a good place to get questions answered. Got anything you want to know sing out and we’ll give you what we got.
. There’s a lot of that here. It’s also a good place to get questions answered. Got anything you want to know sing out and we’ll give you what we got.
I read a PubMed article regarding this "Protonation" and I believe they intimated alkalinity, perhaps I will post it here if I can find it again. Thanks for your response.
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