Hello

[sywi]

Thanks for the welcome!
(BTW, I forgot to mention that I'm a "she.")

For all those trying to help out w/ my tank issue (to whom I am most grateful) -- yes, bombastinator, it's quite easy to get the tank off the mod. No problems with the 510. But, the directions for the tank (complete with illustrations) definitely show that, to fill the tank, I am supposed to remove the tank top (well, and of course the drip tip) and top-fill it.

The chimney isn't actually one piece with the top of the tank. It looks like it in the pic, but the pic is of the iSub V Vortex tank, and I have the older iSub V, which came with the mod. Anyway, to ignore the directions and try to bottom-fill the tank, I'd have to take the coil out (also easy enough; I started the whole adventure by priming the coil) and pour the juice into the hole where the coil was and into and through the chimney, whence it would just pour out of the drip tip. So, yes, it's a top-fill tank.

I think it's just a lemon. Since I smoked a pack of cigarette yesterday intermittently working to get the danged top off, thus puffing away $14.30 and doing more potentially deadly damage to my body, I may just order another tank. If I can find one compatible with my mod. (Coolfire IV TC 100W.) The instructions about what kinds of coil i can use with it are bewildering. (I'm jumping from a Joyetech EGO AIO and a Smoant 8 to something a little beyond my knowledge base, which is basically zilch. Except I know to prime coils. As I said, basically zilch. I was just planning to use the coils that came with it and buy the same kind as replacements.) I think time to head to the tank forum, though I'm a little afraid of it, lol. Unless somebody here has a suggestion.

Or, I could walk it over to B&M vape shop & ask the person on duty for help. I'm pretty sure they'll make a cursory attempt to get the tank top off, fail, and sell me a new tank. B&M retail is something I try to avoid paying, being very poor, and having been sold my EGO AIO at twice the online price by a B&M store where I used to live by a fairly obnoxious youth who clearly was reluctant to leave his cloud contest and wait on a clueless-looking, middle-aged chick; but I feel too guilty already about being advised by this store's saleswoman to try a pod w/ salt nic and leaving with the advice in my head but not the offered pod system. (I'd heard mixed things about the Suorin Drop, anyway. But mostly I was being cost-conscious. SSI income is very low.

Well, that is the deal with the tank, plus the story of my life as a probably unwanted addendum. Forgive me. I just want to stop with the smoking already, and vaping worked, but only for a while. (I'm a little tired of drinking spit-back from the EGO pen, and I don't actually like high-nic salt juice, so I figured perhaps the right thing to do was get a proper mod and tank system. Since I can't seem to get off the stinkies again--NEVER smoke "just one" if you've successfully transitioned to vaping, even if your mother gets cancer! And try that with some low-nic juice mixed with a small amount of WTA, which is what worked for me before in the pen. Perhaps I just had a case of shinyitis when I bought the set. But I have the mod, which was quite well reviewed; might as well get a working tank for it and try it. I think.)

Apologies for taking up all this space and attention. I'm just truly desperate to stop smoking. I remember how much better just vaping was. Just can't seem to quit the death-sticks again. (My mom also forbade me to vape, on pain of being expelled from my apartment, which she owns and is letting me live in, as I can't possibly pay market rents even to share w/ people, on $693/mo. She means well but has bought into all the anti-vape "medical studies" being pushed to her, & doesn't get that they are not comparing the dangers of vaping compared to the dangers of smoking a pack a day. I referred her to the British study on "5% as dangerous as smoking," but she didn't want to hear about it. Anyway, that thoroughly took the fun out of vaping, as it went from a fun, life-saving new hobby/NRT to a crime. --Mom's Korean. Disobedience is a crime. &, I had to try to hide all my equipment whenever she invited herself over, plus endure having all these bogus studies forwarded to me as further reasons not to vape. I now have contingent permission to vape for 3 months just to stop smoking, which is also why I broke out the new mod and tank last week. If it works--assuming I can get a usable tank--then I can use just it and my ADV & the WTA and retire, i.e. permanently hide off-site, all my other vape stuff, which will make it much easier to keep vaping on the down-low after that. If I get a working tank.)

That is more than y'all ever wanted to know, I imagine. But there isn't a sub for "New Members with Numerous Weird-... Vaping Complications." Sorry, again.

 

[Georgia Boy]

Welcome Aboard

Stupid question you've removed the drip tip right? I had the same issue with my Tigon and still do to some degree. There are days where when i just cannot open the tank to fill it no matter what, i take the drip tip off and smooth as silk, other days like today it just glides open.

 

[sywi]

Thank you!
Yes, I removed the drip tip. It was getting in the way of all my wrestling with/running water over/putting in freezer/etc., the mysterious immovable tank top that is definitely supposed to be removable.

 

[GOMuniEsq]

Or, I could walk it over to B&M vape shop & ask the person on duty for help. I'm pretty sure they'll make a cursory attempt to get the tank top off, fail, and sell me a new tank. B&M retail is something I try to avoid paying, being very poor, and having been sold my EGO AIO at twice the online price by a B&M store where I used to live by a fairly obnoxious youth who clearly was reluctant to leave his cloud contest and wait on a clueless-looking, middle-aged chick; but I feel too guilty already about being advised by this store's saleswoman to try a pod w/ salt nic and leaving with the advice in my head but not the offered pod system. (I'd heard mixed things about the Suorin Drop, anyway. But mostly I was being cost-conscious. SSI income is very low.

This is a case of thinking poor keeping you poor. You're going to feel rich once you stop emptying your wallet for analogs. So what's your budget? A week's worth of smokes? That's $100 right there. Half that? Your Innokin Cool Fire IV mod does 25-100W and has a 510 connector which makes it compatible with pretty much every tank there is. That's good news—it means you can keep it. Bite the bullet, hit the B&M, and tell them you're looking for drop-in coil head tank that works at 30-40W. Something not made by Smok. I bet you can get out of there with a tank, a pack of coil heads, and a bottle of appropriate-strength juice for $50.

 

[sywi]

Yes, that's what I was thinking. (Except they can't sell juice. Not sure if that's state or local regs. Piff. I have plenty of juice, though.)

(looking at your sig... Who in the world said vaping causes depression? Egads. I suppose they did an uncontrolled observational study, failed to compare depression rates among vapers to those for cigarette smokers, and decided that correlation means causality, leaving out entirely the fact that nicotine is a stimulant, and it's well known that smokers are depressed at significantly higher rates than never-nic users, not because they smoke but because depression increases the tendency to self-medicate with a mild stimulant, nicotine. Also that both groups have significantly higher rates of ADD, which is almost always comorbid with depression, and thus need to fiddle with things and also have an excuse to get up and take a short walk. Stupidity or an agenda. Sigh.)

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Welcome to ECF, sywi.

 

[GOMuniEsq]

Yes, that's what I was thinking. (Except they can't sell juice. Not sure if that's state or local regs. Piff. I have plenty of juice, though.)

(looking at your sig... Who in the world said vaping causes depression? Egads. I suppose they did an uncontrolled observational study, failed to compare depression rates among vapers to those for cigarette smokers, and decided that correlation means causality, leaving out entirely the fact that nicotine is a stimulant, and it's well known that smokers are depressed at significantly higher rates than never-nic users, not because they smoke but because depression increases the tendency to self-medicate with a mild stimulant, nicotine. Also that both groups have significantly higher rates of ADD, which is almost always comorbid with depression, and thus need to fiddle with things and also have an excuse to get up and take a short walk. Stupidity or an agenda. Sigh.)

lol the vaping & depression trope didn't gain much traction. I think it originated in a study that linked smoking/vaping to mental illness without determining causality, which was then distorted. I'll delete that one next time I need to make room.

 

[BrotherBob]

Thank you!
Yes, I removed the drip tip. It was getting in the way of all my wrestling with/running water over/putting in freezer/etc., the mysterious immovable tank top that is definitely supposed to be removable.

Welcome and glad you joined.
Could take a print out of your tank assembly:

along with the tank to a local machine shop/Gas station mechanic and ask them to clamp them up and unscrew. They know what their doing.

 

[sywi]

Hmm. No gas station within walking distance but there is a high-end bike shop that does repairs... Thanks for the idea!

 

[bombastinator]

lol the vaping & depression trope didn't gain much traction. I think it originated in a study that linked smoking/vaping to mental illness without determining causality, which was then distorted. I'll delete that one next time I need to make room.

Heh. Apparently an unusually high number of schizophrenics smoke. Schizophrenia is very much inherited though. So smoking may help schizophrenia but doesn’t cause it.

 

[daillewe]

Hey welcome to the site! Just thought it pay a visit to the innokin site and pull up the actual instructions with images to do clarify for everyone else that it is indeed a top fill system....

I've personally had the isub v and had very few problems, but I know a few people who have, and I can say your not the first person I've heard of to have this problem. Luckily for one or two of them I was able to force the damn thing open - albeit at the cost of blistering my hands. Some of the others were not so lucky and the tank ended up shattering - once in my hand, which needless to say lead to a vast amount of profanities.

Given you've said you suffer from carpal tunnel, it probably suggest you go for a tank with a sliding or swivel top fill system. I know I'm going to get a lot of stick for saying that as it's a system most commonly used by the dreaded Smok, but I happen to have a wismec tank that came with a cheap kit I purchased a while back.

The Wismec Amor NSE has a 3ml capacity, sideways sliding top fill system and is very lightweight as its primarily made of PETG - a lightweight plastic composite. It also used despicable drop in coils - available as both standard coils and mesh could (don't last quite as long in my experience but give much better flavour and vapor production). The tank can be found online for around $10 +shopping and the replacement coil heads for around $1.55

Hope this has been of some help to you

 

[bombastinator]

Hey welcome to the site! Just thought it pay a visit to the innokin site and pull up the actual instructions with images to do clarify for everyone else that it is indeed a top fill system....
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I've personally had the isub v and had very few problems, but I know a few people who have, and I can say your not the first person I've heard of to have this problem. Luckily for one or two of them I was able to force the damn thing open - albeit at the cost of blistering my hands. Some of the others were not so lucky and the tank ended up shattering - once in my hand, which needless to say lead to a vast amount of profanities.

Given you've said you suffer from carpal tunnel, it probably suggest you go for a tank with a sliding or swivel top fill system. I know I'm going to get a lot of stick for saying that as it's a system most commonly used by the dreaded Smok, but I happen to have a wismec tank that came with a cheap kit I purchased a while back.
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The Wismec Amor NSE has a 3ml capacity, sideways sliding top fill system and is very lightweight as its primarily made of PETG - a lightweight plastic composite. It also used despicable drop in coils - available as both standard coils and mesh could (don't last quite as long in my experience but give much better flavour and vapor production). The tank can be found online for around $10 +shopping and the replacement coil heads for around $1.55

Hope this has been of some help to you

That’s a totally different device from the one in the pic that got posted.

So which if either atty does the OP have?

 

[daillewe]

That’s a totally different device from the one in the pic that got posted.

So which if either atty does the OP have?

From what she has said she has the innokin isub V which is the one ive posted. The other image is of the isub V Vortex, which I'm pretty sure is a model up from the V

 

[GOMuniEsq]

From what she has said she has the innokin isub V which is the one ive posted. The other image is of the isub V Vortex, which I'm pretty sure is a model up from the V

That’s a totally different device from the one in the pic that got posted.

So which if either atty does the OP have?

Yeah my bad I was trying to be helpful and didn't realize there were two similarly named tanks. OP confirmed above that her device is the iSub V tank, and not the iSub V Vortex.

 

[daillewe]

There me when I was reading through, which is why I went to the site. If I remember correctly I ditched my isub v for the isub apex, which has a twist top fill hole next to the driptip and uses the exact same coils

Ended up giving away 3 of those when I got my ijoy limitless rdta

 

[bombastinator]

Yeah my bad I was trying to be helpful and didn't realize there were two similarly named tanks. OP confirmed above that her device is the iSub V tank, and not the iSub V Vortex.

It’s all good as long as the OP winds up knowing what is up

 

[daillewe]

Since reading this thread I've been trying to decide which was the best tank I've had as a possible suggestion for replacement of the isub V, but I keep coming back to my rebuildables.....I really miss my ijoy limitless rate (the original one with the heat sensitive colour changing collar)

I think my preference for rebuildables is the cost factor - even though I'm crap at wrapping coils, pre wrapped coils and a pack of cotton bacon still works out cheaper than the drop in disposable coils. The downside is the fact it's fiddly and a pain to get the resistance to register as what it should be, but a bit of practice soon solves that.

 

[BrotherBob]

Hmm. No gas station within walking distance but there is a high-end bike shop that does repairs... Thanks for the idea!

That's even a better suggestion, good thinking.

 

[bombastinator]

Since reading this thread I've been trying to decide which was the best tank I've had as a possible suggestion for replacement of the isub V, but I keep coming back to my rebuildables.....I really miss my ijoy limitless rate (the original one with the heat sensitive colour changing collar)

I think my preference for rebuildables is the cost factor - even though I'm crap at wrapping coils, pre wrapped coils and a pack of cotton bacon still works out cheaper than the drop in disposable coils. The downside is the fact it's fiddly and a pain to get the resistance to register as what it should be, but a bit of practice soon solves that.

I also think that the only real advantage coil cartridges have in most situations is for people who don’t have the equipment to wrap a coil and are afraid to try. There are a few MTL devices and coils where the coil cartridge outlasts a wrapped coil by a big enough margin that it starts to become worth while from a convenience standpoint, but a mesh coil lasts a long time on both cartridge and RBA.

 

[sywi]

Thank you all so much for your suggestions. I missed the last few, as I took a walk over to the B&M store, which was closed (doubtlessly as per local regs to protect the kids out of school), then to the bike store, where the guy was busy trying to explain her options to an older lady trying to get back into biking (that looked to be a lengthy conversation). So I just used my phone to order another iSub V, this time the Vortex, figuring a) my original tank was just a lemon, and b) I could at least use the coils that came w/ the original tank, and most importantly c) since according to Innokin, it "pairs perfectly" with my mod, it was the "low anxiety" choice. (As noted, I had the mod/tank set for about 8 months and hid from it for 7.75 months. Vapetechnophobia.) Anyway, the new one arrived yesterday, and, yay! the top came right off! I have a working tank!
So, now my challenge is to figure out how to work the mod, which between the TC & the VW & the various coils it pairs with, is way more complicated than my beginner kits. (One good thing about those are that, while very limited, they are very limited, meaning fairly idiot-proof. Fill, press one button, suck vapor.) I need to go watch some Youtube videos or read the dreaded instructions. I don't even know what wattage I want. I guess I can just go with the temperature recommendations on the box. ? I'm informed the tank came equipped with a .5 ohm stainless steel 316L coil. If that's fine with the mod/tank, I'm fine with it. Only obstacle now is that my body is awake, but my brain is still partly asleep. Thank you for all your help.