Help appreciated

[NeoGoldenBoy]

Hello all,

I just registered today, but I've been reading a lot this forum to get proper information and education, and now I come here to ask away and get some advice.

A little background: I'm not a smoker per se, but I did smoke for a little while and not regularly started at 23 (and actually never "learned" since I was never able to inhale the smoke into the lungs, which might be no issue with vaping as I've read) and now I'm 29, and it was very rare for me to smoke and it was very little, yet there were (and are) times where I have a crave to do so… so in order to avoid all the harm and heavy chemicals with cigarettes I started to look at ecigs.

So I read, investigated and tried to get a sense on what was better (I know it's all preference in the end) which made me go ahead and order a VaporZeus from V4L, but since I'm in Mexico it took a lot for it to arrive, so I bought an eGo at a local mall to start… it was ok, yet I had a burnt taste and leaking constantly (I believe the clearomizer was a CE4) and the battery had nothing special except LED's that show how much of the battery is left (a cheap embedded battery meter with 4 bars) and I believe it's a Chinese clone from a Joyetech… then my VaporZeus arrived and it was awesome, looks good, vapes ok, it's a good device.

But now that I'm starting into the vaping culture, I wanted to go to the major leagues (I'm still a noob), so I've been reading and looking and getting informed and that's why I've come to you for help…

I'm tech savvy and love all things technology, and also have an admiration for excellent design and ease of use.

Having said that… I would like to know your opinion on what APV device would be best for me.

Basically I want something that gives me great flavor, great vapor, looks really good, lasts a long (both battery and device durability over the years) and it's easy to use. I don't know ohms law (remember I saw it on school long ago, never used it and forgot it) yet I know I could learn it with ease, but I'm more of a practical guy and would prefer to just go ahead without fiddling much.

Would you recommend me a mech mod or a regulated mod? If so, which one?

And what atomizer/clearomizer/tank would be the best for me?

Also, would you recommend me to actually go ahead and experiment, fiddle and build/rebuild instead of going the "pre-built" way? And why? I can do it, and if advised I can, I just like ease of use and be more practical.

As an additional note, I'm kind of a sweet tooth guy and I've been vaping chocolate flavors and coffee flavors (I love coffee as well), so far the chocolate flavors have been very bad, no chocolatey at all, and coffee has been good.

Thanks in advance for your help and time.

 

[DetraMental]

If ya wanna go with rebuilding you're gonna have to do some reading . It's pretty easy to get the info here, just do a search on "ohms law" or "battery safety" to keep it within the range you need it. Mech mods need to be taken seriously since they are unregulated and it's your responsibility to check the battery's voltage. You'll need a voltage meter to do so. Battery safety is KEY! Don't wanna have it blow up in your face.

There are many great regulated mods out there that allow for rebuildables above 1.2-1.3ohms. The MVP2 is a great lil' mod with a 2600mAh internal battery that can last for days depending on how you use it. It is considered a disposable since the battery is not removable. The VTR is the big brother to the MVP2 and does use external batteries (you'll need a charger for these) but it's limited to 19mm sized tanks or atty's because of the cage on it. It goes up to 15 vw (variable wattage) which is nice. There are many many other regulated mods to consider and I'm sure others will recommend some.

I like bakery flavors at present and order from MBV (MountBakerVaper). They are reasonably priced and you can ask for flavor shots if you want them stronger.

 

[CreepyLady]

Hi and Welcome to ECF!

I found a lot of gross chocolate flavors too! I gave up on them and stuck with the coffees LOL. All you can really do as far as flavors - is experiment. Order small quantities from reputable vendors here on ECF and find the ones that suit your tastes

As far as what to get - if you dont want to deal with ohms law then regulated and clearos or tanks that are "pre-built".

Not sure what your budget is, but best bang for a small buck is an MVP2 and try out an assortment of toppers to see what you prefer. It comes with an Iclear30, maybe add to that a good cartotank like IBTanked and a nautilus to have a good spectrum.

Happy Vaping!

 

[drummerskey]

My thoughts are if you know you don't like/don't think to fiddle/build/etc..................you aren't ever going to.

I did buy some rebuildable toys but only so that I knew how to. Although what I have is pretty good when it's working, I don't have the patience to use it all day. If you have the expendable money and can throw it at whatever you want, buy a dripper or a rebuidable atomizer to mess with but find something else that is easy to satisfy your daily needs.

Protank II/Aerotanks/Nautilus/Davide/EVODs are good starting points for toppers. Although they are not actually rebuidable, I do think you can rebuild some or all of them if you wanted to with just a little bit of money for supplies.

Personally, I don't mess with mech mods. There are a lot of things that can go wrong if you don't know what you are doing and more stuff to add to them which means more fiddling. I am not saying mech mods are bad, just not for me.

A regulated "dipping of your toes in the water" would be the MVP 2.0. Not too pricey, works well from what others have said. The VTR, 134 are others and then you have a Provari which in my opinion, is a really great battery.

 

[NeoGoldenBoy]

Thanks for all your help and suggestions.

I know I would get a hang of rebuilding and doing custom stuff and I would like that very much, but definitely I prefer to just go ahead fill a cartomizer/tank, attach it to a battery and vape right away.

Yet for the experience of rebuilding and all, what would be the best way to go? A Z-Atty-Pro? What would be recommended for wicks and all? (I definitely need some more education on this and will seek info on the forums)

And for the just out of the box, great experience what would be best? I looked at the MVP and the others mentioned here and so far I didn't like them from a design standpoint, the ProVari is a beaut, the iTaste 134 look awesome as well.

What would be the best regulated mod in your opinion and why and what would you recommend me?

As far as mech mods, I don't know much, but I get a sense that in order to go that way I absolutely need to get more education and need to tinker with it before using it, for safety more than anything, but if I were to go that route, what would the best mech mod be and why? Which one would you recommend to me? (Taking into consideration design, durability, etc)

And as far as cartomizer/cartotanks which would be the best one out of the box? I've heard a lot about the iClear 30s, the Aspire Nautilus, ProTank II, Vivi Novas, which would you recommend and why?

And for a rebuildable one?

I basically want a mod that lasts me for a good time, preferably not to buy another one again at all (though I might buy another one just in case), a great battery life, the best and rich flavor, good vapor, and a stylish, unique, premium design, money is not an issue.

Once again thanks for all your help.

 

[CreepyLady]

And for the just out of the box, great experience what would be best? I looked at the MVP and the others mentioned here and so far I didn't like them from a design standpoint, the ProVari is a beaut, the iTaste 134 look awesome as well.

Provari or MVP for regulated. Both are durable and use a higher frequency technology (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html)

*also the above is excluding dna/zna 30 devices

What would be the best regulated mod in your opinion and why and what would you recommend me?

This is going to vary for every response you get - but provari or MVP2 IMO (also excluding DNA/ZNA 30)

As far as mech mods, I don't know much, but I get a sense that in order to go that way I absolutely need to get more education and need to tinker with it before using it, for safety more than anything, but if I were to go that route, what would the best mech mod be and why? Which one would you recommend to me? (Taking into consideration design, durability, etc)

This will also vary based upon everyone's personal opinion. For me - its Reo.

And as far as cartomizer/cartotanks which would be the best one out of the box? I've heard a lot about the iClear 30s, the Aspire Nautilus, ProTank II, Vivi Novas, which would you recommend and why?

Cartomizer tanks = IBTanked

Clearomizers (your listed tanks are all clearomizers) - I havent used in ages but folks speak very highly of the nautilus

And for a rebuildable one?

I cannot comment here - I use RDAs (rebuildable dripping atomizers) not rebuild-able tanks (RBA or RTAs)

I basically want a mod that lasts me for a good time, preferably not to buy another one again at all (though I might buy another one just in case), a great battery life, the best and rich flavor, good vapor, and a stylish, unique, premium design, money is not an issue.

Once again thanks for all your help.

Keep in mind the rich flavor and vapor production come from your topper and your liquid - your "mod" or PV is just the battery power that makes it work right. Just about any VV/VW or good mechanical will do this for you with the right topper.

Try checking out the APV section here in the forum and watching reviews of devices you are interested in on youtube. You will see the good, the bad, and the ugly (if there is any) between the owner posts in APV and the reviewers running the gamut of tests on each device.

See what appeals to you as far as form and function. There really is not much of a wrong decision to be made.

 

[KY_Rob]

Drummerskey and CreepyLady have covered everything quite well.

In my honest opinion, ProVari is "the choice". Most reliable regulated mod I've ever owned, and has all of the features you need, and none of the features you don't.

I agree with using the Aspire Nautilus. Great performance and really easy to use.

If you want to start with rebuildables, I'd recommend an IGO-W dripper to start out with. They're really inexpensive, perform well, and will get you the experience you need with building coils.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND BADITUDES BLOG for battery safety. It is paramount that you understand this clearly before delving into the rebuildable world.

Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress!

 

[Pigpen101]

hey

id recommend the itaste VTR. its VV/VW, really solid in the SS. Heavy decent mod. You can use it to sub-ohm also if in time you feel you want to try that out also and it gives you an ohm reading so you can check your coils easily. After a month or so I found I wanted to inhale more often than the standard atomizers would allow so moved to sub-ohm.

I tried mine with the iclear 30s, iclear 30 and Protank 2. For me the iclear 30s didnt work well at all. The iclear 30 was much better and the Protank was as good but being bottom coil allows me to takes hits at greater frequency.

I say the VTR is well worth considering it leaves you a lot of room to maneuver and looks the nuts.

 

[CreepyLady]

hey

id recommend the itaste VTR. its VV/VW, really solid in the SS. Heavy decent mod. You can use it to sub-ohm also if in time you feel you want to try that out also and it gives you an ohm reading so you can check your coils easily. After a month or so I found I wanted to inhale more often than the standard atomizers would allow so moved to sub-ohm.

I tried mine with the iclear 30s, iclear 30 and Protank 2. For me the iclear 30s didnt work well at all. The iclear 30 was much better and the Protank was as good but being bottom coil allows me to takes hits at greater frequency.

I say the VTR is well worth considering it leaves you a lot of room to maneuver and looks the nuts.

Not exactly. It has a 5 amp limit. It will allow *some* builds just under 1 Ohm - but it will never expend beyond the 5 amp/6volt/15Watt limit to perform as a mech or dna 30 would. This is not a device that was made for sub ohm use.

Also - I do not recommend OP to concern yourself with sub ohm vaping (at least not yet) but if it is something that peaks your interest, by all means keep in mind a device's capabilities if you do not intend to upgrade down the road. Make sure if you do chose to go with anything mechanical and later anything in the world of sub-ohm you take the time to read Baditudes blogs and the stickies on sub ohm safety in the RBA section of the forum.

 

[Baditude]

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[Baditude]

I agree with everything that KY_Rob and CreepyLady said.

MVP or a Provari for the battery device.

An IBTanked cartotank or an Aspire Nautilis clearotank for factory-built toppers. A Kayfun-style rebuildable tank atomizer if going that route.

You Tube is an excellent resource to learn about specific battery devices or juice attachments. Just enter the name into the YouTube search feature.

Baditude's Blog

Vapers Table

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/546143-batteries-chargers-multi-meters-forum.html

 

[Pigpen101]

hey

id recommend the itaste VTR. its VV/VW, really solid in the SS. Heavy decent mod. You can use it to sub-ohm also if in time you feel you want to try that out also and it gives you an ohm reading so you can check your coils easily. After a month or so I found I wanted to inhale more often than the standard atomizers would allow so moved to sub-ohm.

I tried mine with the iclear 30s, iclear 30 and Protank 2. For me the iclear 30s didnt work well at all. The iclear 30 was much better and the Protank was as good but being bottom coil allows me to takes hits at greater frequency.

I say the VTR is well worth considering it leaves you a lot of room to maneuver and looks the nuts.

Not exactly. It has a 5 amp limit. It will allow *some* builds just under 1 Ohm - but it will never expend beyond the 5 amp/6volt/15Watt limit to perform as a mech or dna 30 would. This is not a device that was made for sub ohm use.

Also - I do not recommend OP to concern yourself with sub ohm vaping (at least not yet) but if it is something that peaks your interest, by all means keep in mind a device's capabilities if you do not intend to upgrade down the road. Make sure if you do chose to go with anything mechanical and later anything in the world of sub-ohm you take the time to read Baditudes blogs and the stickies on sub ohm safety in the RBA section of the forum.

I stand by my recommendation which was based on the fact that you can use it for sub-ohm if you wanted to try it out. I wouldnt recommend it to be used for sub-ohm particularly as indeed, it has limits (the VTR allows builds as low as 0.6ohm - which is considerably lower than 1.0 in my opinion) and isnt really designed for it. But it does allow you to tinker with sub ohm stuff without needing to rush out and buy a mech and an ohm meter. Ive been using an rsst Genesis on mine with no problems what-so-ever and now have a couple of mech's on their way. For starters I really dont need to go below .6ohm anyway as im just building simple 3/4 wraps on ss mesh. nothing fancy.

Fact is this mod does allow you some flexibility. It does also give you an ohm reading which is handy if you don't want to buy a mech and an ohm meter just to try things out, or while still unsure if sub-ohm is gonna be for you. All things considered it certainly did me a favor when i decided I wanted to have a go. It works well for 'normal' atomizers (as this is what its designed for) and personally I like the way it looks and feels (very heavy).

 

[NeoGoldenBoy]

Thanks a lot, everyone. I'm still reading the blogs and other topics to be well informed and take the right decisions.

From what I can see so far the easiest for me right now is to get a regulated device, as I can just attach the delivery system of my choosing and start vaping right away. So from that I think (from what I've read) that I can't go wrong with the ProVari, or I could also chose an iTaste 134 or an iTaste SVD… I love the look of the ProVari, like a lot the look of the 134, and the SVD has a lot of what seem to be great features but I like the look of the 134 more.

I also like a lot the tube mods rather than other ones like box shaped ones or others.

For the delivery system I'm right now being inclined to a ProTank II or an Aspire Nautilus (the iClear 30s looks great too), for the easy way to begin, but the IBTanked ones look rather cool for a more advanced and custom vape, which I'd love to try later on, also the KayFun 3.1 looks amazing (I would prefer a glass tube to be able to see the amount of liquid remaining)

Additionally from what I've read so far, I'd like to have a dripping atomizer like the Vision Nano, as dripping seems to provide a great flavor and would let me try different ones.

Right now what I'm having trouble with is to find where to find original KayFun 3.1, a Vision Nano, and also sites that send to Mexico.

As far as mech mods, I know tight now I need to read a lot more, but I've been trying to take a look at those as well just to know what would I like if I chose to go that route later on (which is really interesting me), but I haven't seen one that I've totally liked from the looks, "features", durability and everything else (I love great designs, one that stands out of the crowd, and I also like either something that looks very interesting/futuristic or a refined and polished steampunk look)

 

[NeoGoldenBoy]

Thanks a lot, everyone. I'm still reading the blogs and other topics to be well informed and take the right decisions.

From what I can see so far the easiest for me right now is to get a regulated device, as I can just attach the delivery system of my choosing and start vaping right away. So from that I think (from what I've read) that I can't go wrong with the ProVari, or I could also chose an iTaste 134 or an iTaste SVD… I love the look of the ProVari, like a lot the look of the 134, and the SVD has a lot of what seem to be great features but I like the look of the 134 more.

I also like a lot the tube mods rather than other ones like box shaped ones or others.

For the delivery system I'm right now being inclined to a ProTank II or an Aspire Nautilus (the iClear 30s looks great too), for the easy way to begin, but the IBTanked ones look rather cool for a more advanced and custom vape, which I'd love to try later on, also the KayFun 3.1 looks amazing (I would prefer a glass tube to be able to see the amount of liquid remaining)

Additionally from what I've read so far, I'd like to have a dripping atomizer like the Vision Nano, as dripping seems to provide a great flavor and would let me try different ones.

Right now what I'm having trouble with is to find where to find original KayFun 3.1, a Vision Nano, and also sites that send to Mexico.

As far as mech mods, I know tight now I need to read a lot more, but I've been trying to take a look at those as well just to know what would I like if I chose to go that route later on (which is really interesting me), but I haven't seen one that I've totally liked from the looks, "features", durability and everything else (I love great designs, one that stands out of the crowd, and I also like either something that looks very interesting/futuristic or a refined and polished steampunk look)

I've been busy reading and getting to know more about batteries, safety, and all info available here thanks to Baditude and some others, and besides the questions mentioned earlier I have another one.

Is it possible to mess up a regulated mod, like a ProVari, by using the wrong voltage or something if I didn't knew its ohms? (I know you can review it before in some devices, like the the mentioned ProVari)