Help! Discouraging iClear 30!

[Vappers]

So i recently aquired my MVP 2.0. Always wanted one, knew i would love the mod. I asked you the community what tank to buy with this mod and had an overwhelming response of "Use the iclear! Its awesome.". The first day or two was great, i loved it. However, about 3-4 days in with the first head i would take a puff, blow it out and take a puff again. Now- Im getting that burnt taste and nothing has changed. Its about a 2ohm dual coil and im vaping it at 11 watts. So what i find i have to do is take one puff, wait a minute or so, then take a puff again. I am a chain vaper and i love me alot of vape. I decided to try and turn it down, thinking maybe 11 watts is too much... Shouldnt be if each coil is 4 ohms to = a 2 ohm resistance. Down to 6 watts or 3.7 volts. Still burnt taste but now its doing it every other puff and its the most disgusting thing ever. At this point im thinking, maybe its a bad head.

I decided to head down to the local BM and purchase another head. First day it was a great vape at 1.8 ohms and 11 watts. Now its nearing the end of the second day and its doing it again! What is the deal here.... Im getting pretty discouraged with this tank. I can use my MT3 on this at 11 watts with a 3 ohm coil and no problems. I do get flooding pretty regularly if i fill it with anymore then 15 DROPS of eliquid, why i wanted a better tank to begin with.

So im pretty discouraged but i dont want to touch another stinky. I have a bit of cash if i have to buy another clearo but i love my Iclear when its working great. The vapor production and taste are superior to my mt3 and its very mobile unlike my nimbus rda.

Any ideas?

 

[TheReign]

Simple, Your watts are way to high Lol I vape mine around 6-7 depending on juice, I tried even 8 a few times. BLEGH

 

[TheReign]

Think you might have been a lil overzealous with the wattage and now the coil is pooped. If you get a new head in there go try 7 watts and see how you like it. I've been vaping mine most of the day around 7 watts, sometimes 6 for other juices. 11 Is just Scorching it Lol

 

[Topacka]

Idk man. I always hated clearos. Moved to carto tanks for a huuuuge upgrade in flavor and vapor production. Then to rda/RBA but that's another story.

 

[Vappers]

Reccomend me a good carto please! Keeping in mind the budget isnt endless.

 

[Topacka]

Reccomend me a good carto please! Keeping in mind the budget isnt endless.

My first carto tank was the u-DCT tank by smok. Great little tank, flanged cartos only, I used the boge f-16 cartos, locks them inplace so they can't slip out. Comes in 3.5 and 6ml. Stainless steel w/ chrome finish. I got the 6ml, but if I was going to buy it again I'd get the 3.5 so I could swap flavors more than once every 2 days.

Edit: costs about $10

 

[edyle]

You need spare coils I guess;

11 watts sounds high, but on the other hand, its a dual coil, so it sounds logical to me that a typical dual coil would run at twice the power and consume twice as much eliquid but I don't have any experience with dual coils myself.

 

[Ladiekali]

General Safe Vaping Power | Voltage | Resistance | Ohm Chart

Theres the ohms chart...
Wether you look at 2 ohms or 4.... 11 is too high.

The highest i go is 8.5 watts.

Im not sure what device you were using before. So maybe one reads more precise than the other if it was a vv.

I also second the carto tanks. Www.desertvapes.com has the smoktech dcts on the cheap.
I get my cartos from ibtanked. The smok techs would need an xl size.

You can try soaking the iclear30 in vodka overnight, that is if you havnt burned the wicks too bad.

Good luck with your vape.

 

[Topacka]

General Safe Vaping Power | Voltage | Resistance | Ohm Chart

Theres the ohms chart...
Wether you look at 2 ohms or 4.... 11 is too high.

The highest i go is 8.5 watts.

Im not sure what device you were using before. So maybe one reads more precise than the other if it was a vv.

I also second the carto tanks. Www.desertvapes.com has the smoktech dcts on the cheap.
I get my cartos from ibtanked. The smok techs would need an xl size.

You can try soaking the iclear30 in vodka overnight, that is if you havnt burned the wicks too bad.

Good luck with your vape.

I'm not so sure about that chart. That seems kinda outdated, and is dependent on the atty head using nichrome, which I'm pretty sure is not so common anymore..

I almost always vape my cartos at 11.5 watts, but only that low because 12 watts can burn the polyfill.

 

[Ladiekali]

Vaping Power Chart for Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Batteries

Ok this is the more popular one.

 

[Topacka]

Vaping Power Chart for Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Batteries

Ok this is the more popular one.

That's the same chart, with new colors added. And juices don't 'fry' like that one suggests, I usually vape at 35 watts with no ill effects. That's where I'm coming from, I'm not tooooo versed in clearos because I gave up on them long ago lol, so it might be right for those, but not cartos or rebuildables.

 

[Vappers]

Update: Now im trying to vape it on the volts setting at 3.7 volts... Still burning.

 

[Ladiekali]

Fyi i cant stand the iclear 30.
Or really any top coil.

And yes topacka rebuilds are different.
35 watts? Never heard of that.

 

[Ladiekali]

Update: Now im trying to vape it on the volts setting at 3.7 volts... Still burning.

Its prolly already ruined.

Eta
What is your pg/vg ratio and what juice are you using? All of that has a part to play in wicking, burning and such

 

[Topacka]

Fyi i cant stand the iclear 30.
Or really any top coil.

And yes topacka rebuilds are different.
35 watts? Never heard of that.

I would vape closer to 100 watts if it didn't drain my battery so fast. At 80 watts it kills a 2500 mah battery in half a day.

 

[Ladiekali]

you dont use the iclear 30 and you dont use a vw device,
So i am not real sure why you are posting here.

 

[Topacka]

you dont use the iclear 30 and you dont use a vw device,
So i am not real sure why you are posting here.

Well that's quite rude. I was posting here because I was helping by explaining my past experiences with the problem at hand and telling the op how I found a solution. I have used the iClear 30 and I do use vw devices. My experience and knowledge is just as valid as yours, even if we don't agree, there's no need to be adversarial.

 

[Vappers]

Thanks guys for the info. Im gonna trash this garbage iclear30 and purchase a good glass carto tank. Thanks to all who posted!

 

[Bshollow]

The iclears often need to be primed, repeatedly during use. They have a wicking problem, for me at least. About every 3 or 4 pulls I take a few primer pulls. Usually avoids the burnt taste. I enjoy my iclear 30s 1.8 ohm dual coil at anywhere from 4.2 to 6 volts. I tend to stay around 4.2 to 4.4 though. I had issues at first, because I wasn't supplying enough power. Since I learned about the wicking issue and increased the power all has been well.

 

[happydave]

short story : your reaching the life span of your coils 1 or 2 days is not unheard of, if your a chain vaper. i chain vape a lot. I use a low resistance RDA for chain vaping. it produces decent flavor and lots of vapor i get about 2-4 days of heavy use out of the wick and coil. because i wrap my own coils it cost me pennies to replace. i literally spend less than $50 per year on my wick and wire. the parts for this build can be had for under $30 http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cussion/498945-my-build-ego-octopus-mini.html
Now for the long story if you care:
2 things keep the wick and coil assembly cool, air flow and liquid.
the coil is basically an air and liquid cooled heat powered atomizer.
the fuel injectors in your car are also atomizers but they use an electromechanical solenoid to push and pull a tiny valve open and closed very very fast and use some aerodynamic and hydrodynamic principles to achieve a "mist" of fuel that is then sucked into the engine (combustion chamber). the Fuel injector is an example of an Atomizer that requires no external cooling forces...
so lets break down our wick and coil model,
we have a porous / fibrous wick. the small porous in the wick carry the e-liquid to the coil via "capillary action". basically fluids will always try to take the shape of there container and this case its the "container" is a network of microscopic tubes, channels, pores and VOIDS in the wick. these empty spaces are filled with air and when you take a drag off the e-cig you are lowering the air pressure inside these voids and allowing the e-liquid to take the place of the air.
lets look at the coil now,
you have kanthal wire. (you might use Nichrome (less common) wire but because im not well versed in its material properties i will not cover it here)
so kanthal is an Proprietary alloy of different metals, iron-chromium-aluminium. exact amounts used are not well known (Proprietary).
when this alloy gets hot it tends to expand and form a protective layer of aluminum oxide. this aluminum oxide layer is brittle and flakes off.
lets put it all together
so you have a porous wick that is carrying fluid to a heating coil. the e-liquid is energized by the heat and expands into a gas form. because e-liquid is a solution of a lot of different chemicals some of these chemicals break down into other chemicals before they are able to be vaporized because they got hung up in a spot that lacks air flow or they just got to much heat. This is what that black "gunk" is on your used wicks and coils. remember that the wick is porous and will trap particles from the burning e-liquid. so over time you have a build up of SOILD gunk in the pores of the wick taking up the area the e-liquid needs. the aluminum oxide layer will also start to pick up this gunk and eventually end up in the wick as well..
Amorous Silica (silica wick) has a very low coefficient of thermal expansion (CTE), well Kanthal (being mostly iron) has a CTE normal for most alloys of similar nature.
so when you fire your atty, the wick is not expanding at any significant rate but the wire is expanding. people who rebuild know that you want to wrap wire around the wick with a bit of tension but not so tight that you constrict the flow of e-liquid.
so are burnt hits "bad"??? well they are all kind of burnt hits in a way, some more burnt than others.. your not getting perfect / %100 Atomization in our situation. there will be by products of the process that will taste bad and the heat and or hot particles of vapor may cause pain. we don't really have any long term testing for e-cigarette usage, so we cant say if its "good" or "bad" for you.
i will say this... the grill marks people like to make on steak and other meat are carcinogenic..