Help I can't stop snussing

[smokingclam]

Ok I'm loving this stuff too much now. I went out this weekend and picked up a small refrigerator this weekend to keep my snus in. Got a small Magic Chef from Home Depot for $99 that works great. The wife was complaining about getting attacked by snus every time she went in the fridge.
Upon cleaning my supply out I found I had 45 cans built up. This wouldn't be bad accept I just placed an order for a 10 pack of General Onyx and 18 more loose cans from Northener.8-o
Guess my question would be how long this will keep in the fridge?

 

[Mohave]

I'm up to over 30 cans in the fridge already, and have still more on order since I'm only about halfway through the list of everything Northerner has that I want to taste.

But look on the back of your tins, and you will find an expiration date. My General Onyx says "Best Fore 22-07/2009" (I presume that means July 22nd) my Nick & J West says "Bast Fore 01-06-09" (yes it is apparently expired) and my Thunder Frost says "Bast Fore 30/10: 2009" which I guess is the day before Halloween. I understand from people who should know more about these things than I do that the "best used by" or "bast fore" dates do matter. They are a perishable product that really does go seriously bad eventually, from what I've read, and that date assumes they are refrigerated. Looking through the date stamps on a bunch of them, I get the idea at least some of them can keep (chilled) for as long as six months from whenever they were made.

But my understanding is that they keep a long time if frozen, preferably in an airtight container so they don't dry out. So I guess my drill should be to keep most of my stock frozen, with a few tins in the fridge, moving a new tin from deep freeze to chilled storage as I use them. But I must try a few of each first, you know, so I haven't actually frozen any yet myself, only keeping them in the lettuce crisper so far. I also got the idea somewhere that they can benefit from being kept in a container with a little moisture added to it once in a while to keep from drying out in the fridge if they are there for more than a week or so after being opened. Makes sense to me, and I have some little water absorbing devices that I got long ago to hydrate bulk smoking tobacco, but I imagine a little piece cut off of a sponge or something like that would probably do the job.

Or, you could probably cure yourself of this thing for a while by choking on a vile Marlboro "snus." And those, suspiciously enough given their bizarre chemical taste, are the only snus I've found or heard of so far which are NOT kept chilled before sale. Hmmmm.

 

[BeRight]

I keep mine in the freezer, as recommended by Northerner.

 

[scrubadub]

I found this place at the weekend and many people there seem to think the freezer is a good idea as well

SnusOn.com - Snus Forum :: Index

 

[Frankie]

I also read many times that snus can last long after official expiration date if it is kept frozen.

Mohave: The "purified portion" (Wise/Oomph brand) can be stored in room temperature. The same goes for CatchDry, I believe.

 

[Mohave]

Mohave: The "purified portion" (Wise/Oomph brand) can be stored in room temperature. The same goes for CatchDry, I believe.

I can't quite figure out what the "purified portion" really is. It looks expensive for the quantity (only 6g) you get, and the nicotine content (6mg) looks small, just going on what I see in the product description on Northerner, but I don't know if it's right to compare them that way.

Have you got any experience using it?

 

[Kitabz]

my Nick & J West says "Bast Fore 01-06-09" (yes it is apparently expired)

Dates in all of Europe are [almost] always written day-month-year so it has not expired yet (01-Jun-09).

Also, there is a distinction between the phrases "best before" and "use by" when reviewing expiration dates. For the former it is more like advice, for the latter is it a definite statement - do not exceed it for health reasons. Not sure if this is a European Union directive or just convention. Sorry, I don't know the Swedish for "use by".

 

[Frankie]

Mohave:The "purified portion" gives you higher absorbtion, so it provides higher buzz than the nic content might otherwise indicate. It is also very dry, can last in higher temperatures and allegedly has lower TSNAs content.

I tried 6mg Energy snus and 3mg Wise citrus. The 6mg was a bit too high for me - and it is very difficult to cut it in half and use a half-portion as with starndard portions (I just cut them in half and have minis made of them). They taste very unlike standard snus.

 

[TropicalBob]

Boy are you right, Frankie. Not only does it provide a higher buzz, but it does so much, much faster. I've tried many snus products, as well as other tobacco products, and have overdosed on nicotine only twice -- to the point of throwing up and being incapacitated for a half hour!

Both times followed use of 6mg Wise Wine and Chef snus.

Talk about a mule kick! And I was made sick each time within about 15 minutes of inserting the portion. Why this happens has been discussed on snuson.com but no one seems to really have an answer. Not even Sterk portions have that effect on me.

These are very clean products, by the way, with low TSNAs.

 

[Mohave]

The "purified portion" gives you higher absorbtion...

Not only does it provide a higher buzz, but it does so much, much faster.

Does faster = shorter? Or do they provide the 60+ min. satisfaction of other snus?

 

[TropicalBob]

I mean they clobber you in 15 minutes or so, much quicker processing of the nicotine than other snus. Wine&Chef is tasteless, so can be used along with a cup of coffee without skewing the coffee's taste. It will really mellow you out in a hurry.

I normally leave a portion in for about an hour or more. With Wine&Chef, I rip it out at 20 minutes to stop the nicotine infusion.

 

[smokingclam]

I must have a high tolerance to nicotine I think. I can do the 12 - 16mg snus with no problems at all. Only time I got a problem is if I do one too quick after I just had one. Got a little queazy from that a couple of times so I space them every 2 hours or so now.
Put a little caffeine in the picture with the snus and it brings me to my knees. Can't seem to do them together.

 

[Frankie]

Does faster = shorter? Or do they provide the 60+ min. satisfaction of other snus?

For me they definitely last at least as long as other snus. That goes for 6 mg Energy and 3mg Citrus. I actually have to cut Energy in half, because it was unpleasantly strong. Sometimes I add the other half one hour later without removing the first one (I rather like the taste, even though it is a bit strange) and that gives me huge kick without feeling like running up the stairs.

 

[smoking gnu]

Can you get snus in the UK? I have stopped e- smoking for around 3 weeks because of a constant sore throat which has now completely gone, and I have just had enough of the hassle of e-cigs. I’m using nrt gum that’s ok but I don’t really like the flavours but I do like the fact that you just pop a piece of gum out of the packet and away you go, and my throat don’t hurt that’s good to. So if anyone can tell me if there are any suppliers that will ship snus to the UK that would be great. I would love to give it a try.

 

[Kitabz]

Can you get snus in the UK? I have stopped e- smoking for around 3 weeks because of a constant sore throat which has now completely gone, and I have just had enough of the hassle of e-cigs. I’m using nrt gum that’s ok but I don’t really like the flavours but I do like the fact that you just pop a piece of gum out of the packet and away you go, and my throat don’t hurt that’s good to. So if anyone can tell me if there are any suppliers that will ship snus to the UK that would be great. I would love to give it a try.

It's illegal to sell within the UK (indeed the entire EU except for some of the Nordic countries who have an exemption). I believe you can order from Northerner.com, buy Snus online, order shipped within 24 hours express worldwide (in Sweden) and they'll post it into the UK but I'm not terribly sure how legal that is. Haven't done it myself yet but I'm planning to at some point. To forewarn you, they do add a huge "tobacco tax" onto the price of the products so they work out more than double the ticket price shown on the web site after this, normal sales tax and shipping is added.

 

[smoking gnu]

Thanks kitabz. I have just ordered some from northerner and you are right they do bump up the price with the tax, it more or less doubled on the three tins I ordered it came to around £12 with shipping . So I’ll just wait and see and I’ll let you know if I have any problems with the customs. There shouldn’t be any as its from within the EU, I suppose its what they label it as that might prove a bit of a problem.

 

[Mohave]

For whatever it's worth, a Buysnus order delivered to me recently had “SNUS” on the label of the shipping envelope. But I just got another large order from Northerner a few minutes ago (yippie!) and as I look at their label, on the box in front of me right now, I see it says “Crafts.”

So I’ll just wait and see and I’ll let you know if I have any problems with the customs. There shouldn’t be any as its from within the EU, I suppose its what they label it as that might prove a bit of a problem.

 

[WerkIt]

I can't stop snussing either, but then again, why would I want to? Give me white mini portions or give me death! Surely I smoked for almost three decades, but as time goes on it is become harder and harder to remember why.

 

[D_Struct]

Surely I smoked for almost three decades, but as time goes on it is become harder and harder to remember why.

My sentiments, exactly!

After discovering things like snus and e-cigs, I just wonder if I was just having tunnel vision regarding smoking alternatives, or what.

Since starting to use snus, my cravings for analogs has gone from slight to next to nothing.

I couldn't bring myself to smoke even if I wanted to. Too many better alternatives.

 

[UkUsa]

"Bast Fore 01-06-09" (yes it is apparently expired)

Mohave ... i believe that exp date is june 1st 09. I know England writes it's dates day/month/year. According to wikipedia most of the rest of the world uses this date format too. So i think that can is still good

BTW ... love your Dihydrogen banner ... too funny .