Help, I'm burning most of my cartz after very little use. Pics inside!

[SEB]

Hello all.

I'm new to vaping but I' read alot on the subject. I started a week ago with a UU kit and some various cartz and 5ml bottles.



Everything went well and V4L treated me very well!!! on day one I completely stopped the nasty analogs and been vaping since. I was 12/cig day smoker.


After a few days I found my technique and I was using 3 batt with 3 carts on them and after 2-3 drags I switched ecig so they would not overheat or burn.

Now my problem is that I can't even reuse 20% of my carts because I get that burnt taste after normal use (around 50-60 hits per cartz using my rotating technique) and after the burnt taste comes it stays there even with a good clean.

Saturday I put a choco cart and after maybe 50 drags, I get the burnt taste. I disassembled it and it was burnt. same thing sunday I burnt 2 carts out of 3 9the third I could refill it. today I put a fresh pineapple and fresh pomegrenate and both were burnt before 5pm. And no I'm not chain vaping maybe 12-15 drags total in 10 mins every 2 hour (4-5 hits per cart on rotation on 3 ecig).

Even with the burnt taste they were all still full of flavours and producing vapor.


here is a pic of the inside of the cart that I stopped vaping at the first sign of burnt taste:

So now the cartz that I have the matching liquid, I will refill them after 30-40 drags...


Am I doing something wrong?


Thanks



PS: I just placed a fairly good order, hope they will last longer.

 

[leaford]

I am sorry to hear about your carts burning out too quickly. No you're not doing anything wrong, as far as I can tell. It osund slike you got some bad carts. Were they all chocolate?

Anyway, I hope you mentioned your problems in the comment section. If you did, Steve will take care of you. If not, since you just placed it, send Steve or Mark an e-mail quick, maybe your order hasn't shipped yet.

 

[JenJen]

Well that sucks! Is it one particular batt that seems to do it, or are all your batteries doing it? What kind of batteries do you use? Do the cartos feel hot or very very warm after you take a few hits? I usually have 2 going - a batt and the pt and I take like 2 hits off a batt, set it down and then take 2 hits off the other and set it down. Then I will pick up the first again and take 2 hits and set it down, then 2 hits off the other one and then I am done for a bit. That is just my habit and I never seem to burn cartos. Hopefully others will have suggestions...

 

[SEB]

I am sorry to hear about your carts burning out too quickly. No you're not doing anything wrong, as far as I can tell. It osund slike you got some bad carts. Were they all chocolate?

Anyway, I hope you mentioned your problems in the comment section. If you did, Steve will take care of you. If not, since you just placed it, send Steve or Mark an e-mail quick, maybe your order hasn't shipped yet.

Thanks Leaford,

No I did not write to mark or steve about it nor did I write it in the comment section of my order. I already ask for a replacement on the bad batt that I got. I didn't want to ask too much....

I ordered abour 2 hours ago.

the burnt cartz were 3 Chocolate 0mg,1 pinapple 11mg and 2 pomegrenate 18mg.

Mints were OK.



You think I should ask mark or Steve?

If yes, what are their emails?

Thanks








EDIT: I just burnt another pinapple 11mg....ARGGGGhhhhh

 

[Pawpaw]

I'm not leaford, but yes you should email them ASAP.

steve@vapor4life.com

mark@vapor4life.com

What you are experiencing is very strange.

 

[SMILIN]

PM me your order # and issues, I will take cae of it, cause, Dat's what we do

Steve

 

[leaford]

Thanks Leaford,

No I did not write to mark or steve about it nor did I write it in the comment section of my order. I already ask for a replacement on the bad batt that I got. I didn't want to ask too much....

I ordered abour 2 hours ago.

the burnt cartz were 3 Chocolate 0mg,1 pinapple 11mg and 2 pomegrenate 18mg.

Mints were OK.

EDIT: I just burnt another pinapple 11mg....ARGGGGhhhhh

No, I don't think that's bad carts. Not in all those different strengths and flavors. Like Jen Jen asked, is it just one battery that's doing this? And which battery type/s are you using?

And don't worry about too much. Until you've got working e-cigs it's not enough. The Smilin warranty is simple, he's not satisfied until you are SMILIN.

 

[RyGuy]

I had this happen with a bunch of Vanilla and Cappuccino carts and V4L definitely took care of it. It's as simple as this, if you're having a problem you need to let them know! I'm sure they appreciate feedback on when product is faulty because Steve strives for perfection and wants all of his customers to be happy. Not only that, but you're helping them to make sure that bad ones get pulled from their inventory.

 

[SEB]

No, I don't think that's bad carts. Not in all those different strengths and flavors. Like Jen Jen asked, is it just one battery that's doing this? And which battery type/s are you using?

And don't worry about too much. Until you've got working e-cigs it's not enough. The Smilin warranty is simple, he's not satisfied until you are SMILIN.

Well I just PM'ed Steve about it.

I used my 2 manuals, 1 PT and 1 auto on rotation, and I 100% think that they burnt on different batteries.

After great thinking, I'm pretty sure that pomegrenate and choco were bad as I mostly vape on the mint and theses are OK so far, and I even refilled one of them a few times.
2 of the carts that I disassembled were still pretty damp...So I didn't suck them dry.

But I could be wrong, it could be me... but again I'm so gentle and I do not vape that much

Anyways I'm still vapin4life

 

[Taryn]

I make sure the atty is centered on every cart I use, I even pop open brand new ones before first use and center them. How are yours looking?

 

[cr12]

you shouldnt have to be ginger with them, i work my carts over and after a month and a half of working them i only have 10 carts that are dead.

i vape 2-3 a day.

 

[grimmer255]

wow....... that looks to be a quality issue with the manufacture.... seems like with that batch there was very little eliquid placed in them. that can happened but i havent heard this happening in several months. Im sure you will get taken care of. I bet smilen was on the phone with those guys over in china given them more incentive to make sure those carts are waited properly. but with that picture it looks as though they did to much on that solder joint and perhaps through off the scale a bit which caused less eliquid to go in that batch you have.

 

[Vampirecat019]

Sorry in advance for my unsolicited two cents, and this is totally a willy-nilly assumption/rant here, but I couldn't help but think of this.... I assume those are "cartomizers"? Looks like that could pose a potential fire hazard if they are used on an automatic battery/atomizer combo that has a particularly sensitive chip? Perhaps it could dry up the supply of juice but continue to heat up and possibly melt/catch fire... Obviously that is a VERY unlikely event, but it IS possible if the auto battery is very sensitive and is repeatedly activated? If I were you I would buy refillable carts, and use something like the blue foam plug. I use it personally and it works great. No more burning taste.

 

[Taryn]

Sorry in advance for my unsolicited two cents, and this is totally a willy-nilly assumption/rant here, but I couldn't help but think of this.... I assume those are "cartomizers"? Looks like that could pose a potential fire hazard if they are used on an automatic battery/atomizer combo that has a particularly sensitive chip? Perhaps it could dry up the supply of juice but continue to heat up and possibly melt/catch fire... Obviously that is a VERY unlikely event, but it IS possible if the auto battery is very sensitive and is repeatedly activated? If I were you I would buy refillable carts, and use something like the blue foam plug. I use it personally and it works great. No more burning taste.

Yes you are in the V4L subforums and we all use cartomizers here. We enjoy the many benefits of the two piece unit as opposed to the three piece. He is showing us an unusual problem he is having, it's not the general cartomizer experience. We'll get to the bottom of it!

 

[SEB]

Sorry in advance for my unsolicited two cents, and this is totally a willy-nilly assumption/rant here, but I couldn't help but think of this.... I assume those are "cartomizers"? Looks like that could pose a potential fire hazard if they are used on an automatic battery/atomizer combo that has a particularly sensitive chip? Perhaps it could dry up the supply of juice but continue to heat up and possibly melt/catch fire... Obviously that is a VERY unlikely event, but it IS possible if the auto battery is very sensitive and is repeatedly activated? If I were you I would buy refillable carts, and use something like the blue foam plug. I use it personally and it works great. No more burning taste.

Well the cloth looks like a fire ......ant material and the autos are not sensible at all. I don't think cartomizers are more risky than any other ecig.

But I love to test stuff so that is a test I could do.... But I'm 100% sure that it will get hot and then the coil will overheat and snap way before fire.








Hey BTW I got a bad apple.... it happens to everyone. it's not a bad product at all!






!

 

[kc0cmp]

My wife did this to carts till i took her passthrough away until i could teach her to use it properly. You didn't mention if you were using only a battery or using a passthrough in your original post, didn't read much further.

For those who do not know. The passthrough has no training wheels, it can and will annahilate a cart if you hit it like nuts in frequency (you mentioned you were rotating so thats good) OR in *duration*...

my wife can tag the end of the old 8 second batteries..and does every drag. I expect she could on a 10-12 second batt, but i'm not giving her one to find out. I have her on 5-6 second cutoff batts now and her cart-killing has been reduced to 0 finally..and now i have her back on the passthrough with careful monitoring and babysitting.

She, like many of us, has no quitting sense...and the passthrough, as nice as it is, must be used with some measure of self control many of us do not possess LOL.

I don't know if you're using a passthrough or not, but her carts looked just like that for a while haha.

It's not just about how *frequently* you hit it, its about how *long* per drag as well..with the passthroughs increased voltage, combined with it's almost bottomless cutoff, you can literally vape faster than the wick can keep up with less effort than you'd think.

 

[kc0cmp]

I make sure the atty is centered on every cart I use, I even pop open brand new ones before first use and center them. How are yours looking?

I do this too, I don't know if it helps burning but it certainly helps vapor production and functionality in other ways. I'd think it'd *have* to help burning...but I use the Passthrough gently, given it's seemingly endless output.

 

[Wozzy]

Hmmmmmm... sure hope that's lead free solder in those cartomizers pics. Would hate to think we're sucking down lead.

 

[SEB]

I don't know if you're using a passthrough or not, but her carts looked just like that for a while haha.

It's not just about how *frequently* you hit it, its about how *long* per drag as well..with the passthroughs increased voltage, combined with it's almost bottomless cutoff, you can literally vape faster than the wick can keep up with less effort than you'd think.

Yes I'm using a passthrough, but only at night when in front of the computer. And taking 3-4 sec draws.

On the batteries I can do 5 sec (the cutoff is 5 sec on the auto) and I can maybe do 6 sec on my manual.

Like I said before, I can vape till I get a head rush with the mint carto and I never burnt one! Thank god they are my fav.



Anyways Steve will take care of me.

Thank you for great support, I love this community!

 

[~Gazoo~]

There is no possible way a battery would cause this unless it stuck in the on position and you did not remove the carto immediately. Same with the passthrough.

I know how much current the carto draws using the battery and passthrough. I built a box mod for myself and the current to the carto is regulated at around 1100ma's. This is less than the battery and of course much less than the passthrough. I have had a couple of chocolate carto's go bad using my box mod and a pineapple go bad within an hour. So there are issues with some of the carto's. The worst part is there was no warning before it happened.

I realize Steve will take care of us and that's awesome. However there needs to be more quality control with everything, and when new things are made like batteries, it should be done right the first time. Also there needs to be more consistency with the juices.

Leaford...I don't envy you, but I am happy you will be addressing these issues.