Help picking new vaping device

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wseyller

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It can be hard to know who you are recommending what. It is a no brainer that a provari should never be recommended to beginners. Some noobs such as myself could handle a provari. But those types of individuals are good at researching products and they can figure it out themselves. I don't see any problem recommending to people on a forum a product such as a kgo with fixed voltage. Of course there are always going to be people that will be overwhelmed by a product such as a kgo or even more simple products. Of course many of those people don't even know how to use a forum or they don't even know what a forum is.

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That's basically what I'm saying. Don't mean to accuse anyone specifically. They know who they are.
Yeah, it's a no-brainer that 99% of the time a Provari shouldn't be recommended to a newb.
But in nearly every newb's "what should I buy" thread, there are the Provari fanboys chiming in telling them not to waste their money on "inferior" models like the kGo. Which BTW, along with the e-Power, is probably the ideal starter for anyone not hung up on an analog lookalike.
I shudder to think what's going to happen once the production of Darwin gets cranked up.
 
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I highly recommend a ProVari. It'll be the last PV you'll ever need to own and you don't need to be a rocket scientist to use it like some people on here think.
Exactly. I simply don't understand why people are against recommending a Provari or any other higher quality pv to a beginner. If I could turn back time, I'd save a ton of time, money and aggravation had I purchased my Provari first. Equally important is the fact that I'd have experienced a superior vaping experience from the get go.

Reminds me of a new member whose first post was something like "don't tell me which pv you started with, I want to know what you're using now." Wish I had asked that question when I started my journey.
 

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Exactly. I simply don't understand why people are against recommending a Provari or any other higher quality pv to a beginner. If I could turn back time, I'd save a ton of time, money and aggravation had I purchased my Provari first. Equally important is the fact that I'd have experienced a superior vaping experience from the get go.

Reminds me of a new member whose first post was something like "don't tell me which pv you started with, I want to know what you're using now." Wish I had asked that question when I started my journey.

I own a bunch of different PV's. But for a new person who wants to experience everything that you can all rolled into one, a variable voltage mod is the way to go. I also highly recommend a BuzzPro...another fantastic easy to use mod.
 

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I agree that newbs should be steered clear from nearly all of the lookalikes, but the Provari fanboyism is getting out of hand. Virtually every newb who comes here asking for advice is ganged up on by Provari evangelists and fanboys who think their device is the be all and end all of the vaping world.

It's a fine device, to be sure. But very few new vapers will benefit by jumping straight into any VV, let alone a $200+ Provari. They generally have no clue as to the differences and variety in cartos, tanks, attys and the relationships between voltage, ohms, amps and watts. And here the fanboys expect them to be able to intelligently interpret Provar's error codes, avoid popping attys or have the slightest clue as to which devices make sense, do what, or are a waste of money when stuck on the end of a Provari.

Have you forgotten what it was like to enter this vaping labyrinth? What do you have for backup in the event you lose or break your Provari? Well, most of these newbs have nothing or, at most, some gas station e-cig.

It's one thing to suggest a newb start with a kGo, or even a reasonable fixed voltage mod. Over a year ago, I was getting criticized for recommending a Silver or Baby Bullet as a first PV. But it's ridiculous to recommend a Provari or Darwin to someone before they have a reliable backup, a reasonable grasp of the electrical concepts behind e-cigs or any inkling of whether or not it will be worth $225 for them to be able to vape at 15 watts or 7 watts, let alone knowing what it all even means.

It's easy to say you wished you would have started with a VV. For the most part, that's because you've forgotten how confused and overwhelmed you were when you first started. It's almost like a Carrera driver going on and on about his Porsche to a 16 year old who just walked out of the DMV with his brand new driver license.

You sure don't give people much credit. Maybe a Provari isn't for everybody but it does come with instructions. Any other VV mod is a no brainier to figure out and we all learned about cartos, attys, tanks etc the same way, buy experimenting. I started out with a disposable and worked my way up and learned from the experience but if I had it to do again I would have started out with VV and saved myself a lot of money. VV is the best and only way to go. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a Buzz Pro to a newbie. I wish somebody had turned me on to it a year ago.
 

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ARRGHHH!!!... It's the attack of the fanboys and fangirls...

Tell it to the newbie who starts out asking for a cigarette lookalike and has a hard time wrapping their mind around anything more complex than a Volt. You know, the ones who ask what "ohm" means. Yeah, just tell them to plunk down $300 for a Provari and all the stuff to "experiment" and everything else is magic.
 
Everyone is different and what works for one will not work for another, that's a given. I think vaping is a learning experience and you need to experiment a little. Just don't get frustrated and return to analogs like I did. That being said I'd recommend against an ego-t.

Why? I started out on the little cigarette looking pv's and then discovered the ego. I admit in comparison the ego was phenomenally better. I discovered dripping and how much better it was than carts. Then I discovered the ego-t which had me excited, since to me, it was like dripping without the hassle and mess. Then I started having problems with the tank leaking, the atty burning. I tried everything I could find to fix it. I used different methods of putting the tank on, filling, cleaning, etc. I also bought two more atomizers for the ego-t. The last straw was when my new tank dumped it's entire contents in to my shirt pocket at work. I went off the wagon and struggled for a while to get back on. For me the ego-t was a bust.

After saying that. I love my ego batteries! I have the two 1000 mah batts and one 650 and they last all day. I ordered some new equip from gotvapes, the Vision Grande, Vision Extreme, and Cryptonite 8. They all work perfect with my ego batts. If the tanks don't work out for you try the Vision cartomizers. In my opinion they are better than the tanks and work with 510. I hope this helps you and you find something the works for you. Good vaping!
 

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ARRGHHH!!!... It's the attack of the fanboys and fangirls...

Tell it to the newbie who starts out asking for a cigarette lookalike and has a hard time wrapping their mind around anything more complex than a Volt. You know, the ones who ask what "ohm" means. Yeah, just tell them to plunk down $300 for a Provari and all the stuff to "experiment" and everything else is magic.

I'm not a fangirl of any one mod. I have over 50 of them...all of which I like but why should YOU be the one to tell someone else not to buy something that just might work for them?
 
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