Help Please!!! 100% VG???

[redrhino]

I have heard a lot of great things about the MFS...But i have never placed an order as of yet,because I'm not sure if he sells 100% VG juice....But everyone seems to be buying the VG juice from MFS...I tried several times to place my order but there is no option to choose VG on the site.. I would Like to become a customer just not sure how to get the VG though....

P.S
And one last thing... Can someone please tell me for sure if he defiantly has 100% VG Because that is all i can vape....NO PG AT ALL.....Thanks in advance.....

 

[Birdy]

Maybe people are buying VG non-flavored nic juice from him, it says you can request it here... though the wording is ambiguous, it might be saying he'll mix pg based nic liquid with vg.

Sounds like it's important for you to get VG only so if I were you I'd call him to be sure:

Call us TOLL FREE!!! 888-631-6061

BTW- I think I read somewhere that he primarily uses Lorann for his flavors and those are all PG based. So if you have a severe sensitivity then that would be something to ask him.

I have heard a lot of great things about the MFS...But i have never placed an order as of yet,because I'm not sure if he sells 100% VG juice....But everyone seems to be buying the VG juice from MFS...I tried several times to place my order but there is no option to choose VG on the site.. I would Like to become a customer just not sure how to get the VG though....

P.S
And one last thing... Can someone please tell me for sure if he defiantly has 100% VG Because that is all i can vape....NO PG AT ALL.....Thanks in advance.....

 

[redrhino]

Thanks Birdy..tried calling him but goes right to voice mail,and then says the mail box is full..Do you have any idea who does carry a 100% VG juice...Thanks in advance...

 

[aschmidy]

I have the same thing going on. ONLY 100% VG! Ecopure is the only juice I have found that I have no reaction to. Innovapor and Cignot carry it. Best of luck!

 

[Birdy]

Thanks Birdy..tried calling him but goes right to voice mail,and then says the mail box is full..Do you have any idea who does carry a 100% VG juice...Thanks in advance...

:::EDIT:::

I just realized this was a supplier subforum. So I've deleted mentions of and links to other suppliers out of respect to MFS.

OP- If you need the info I posted about PM me.

 

[redrhino]

I have the same thing going on. ONLY 100% VG! Ecopure is the only juice I have found that I have no reaction to. Innovapor and Cignot carry it. Best of luck!

Thank you...One Question though are the located in the U.S? Well i guess a few questions LOL...hows there shipping,I guess what i mean is are the a reputable company...

Thanks in advance...

 

[redrhino]

I also buy Ecopure from cignot.
Just a note though- they have a new flavor called English Toffee Ecopure that they mix themselves using Lorann flavoring that isn't 100 vg. But all the other Ecopure they have is 100% VG. If you like warm candy like flavors the Rich is totally awesome. Its like RY4 (or maybe its RY3, can't remember)- caramel and vanilla tasting.

I personally can tollerate a small amount of PG. So what I do is keep a bottle of plain VG on hand that I got from Whole Foods. I buy the 25mg Ecopure and mix 2/3 Ecopure to 1/3 VG (to equal 18mg liquid). That's my base liquid.
Then in a smaller travel bottle I mix that with the smallest amount of reduced PG Johnson Creek or some Lorann (so I don't mess up a whole batch of Ecopure if I add too much PG based stuff).
Doing that I haven't had any of the side effects I was having with straight PG based stuff. But if you're super sensitive then I probably wouldn't even try that.

Oh! I just remembered- if you are ok with the taste of standard Dekang liquids Cignot carries a buttload of VG only flavors, cheap too. LINK
LINK

It's all higher nic so you might want to cut it with straight VG.
They also have plain no nic Ecopure VG here to mix with.

Yes I did hear a lot of good thing about Cignot from a few members on ECF...But never really ordered from them because i think that they are located in China...(but i could be wrong) and i really don't like to wait for more than your standard delivery time in the U.S...But I guess.... I would have to give them a try maybe later on..... But while i am on the subject Where are the located?

P.S Never had Dekang ...What exactly is that????? I mean i think it is a name brand but not sure...And if it is what is wrong with the taste?? LOL And is Dekang 100%VG or does it have PG flavoring?

Thanks....

 

[Birdy]

P.S Never had Dekang ...What exactly is that????? I mean i think it is a name brand but not sure...And if it is what is wrong with the taste?? LOL And is Dekang 100%VG or does it have PG flavoring?

Thanks....

Dekang is the Chinese manufacturer that makes something like 95% of juice. When you order from almost anyone, stateside or from China, there's a very good chance it's what you'll get. The DK bottles have a distinctive look with pastel blue, green or orange caps.
Suppliers can have DK customize their flavors for them, so many suppliers have special blends available ony through them. Usually when people aren't selling Dekang they say so clearly.

There is nothing wrong with DK liquid. Most people like it very much (I personally don't like them at all). Usually when you hear people in the forum talking about flavors they are probably talking about some DK based juice.
Dekang makes PG and VG juice.


Just keep in mind- when you see someone like DIYFlavorShack or MyFreedomSmokes or anyone mixing juice themselves, there's a good chance that they use Lorann or other food flavoring that contains PG unless they specifically say it doesn't.

Always best to verify with them before ordering.

:::EDIT:::

I just realized this was a supplier subforum. So I've deleted mentions of and links to other suppliers out of respect to MFS.

 

[aschmidy]

Redrhino, Ecopure is the only VG liquid I have found that is not made in china. I can't have any pg what so ever and if you go to the intellicig website out of the UK they list the ingredients. I guess I just trust the product and Cignot and Innovapor are both US distributors for Intellicig. I stick with the original flavors because I have found whenever they start adding flavorings there always seems to be a small amount of pg that is undetected to most people, but I react very strongly to even the smallest amounts.
The only other juice I could ever use was a while back when Johnson Creek (made in Wisconsin) use to carry VG juice. But they don't carry VG only juice anymore. I still bug them regularly and they keep saying they are working on it. Maybe again someday ....
Best Wishes!

 

[Kurt]

Thanks Birdy..tried calling him but goes right to voice mail,and then says the mail box is full..Do you have any idea who does carry a 100% VG juice...Thanks in advance...

vtvapor.com. great juice. I think Adam's only bulk size is 250 mL 35 mg for $100, sent in nalgene jars, which I then transfer to amber bottles for storage and use. I got mine for $80 when it was on sale. Very very clean.

 

[redrhino]

I would like to thank everyone here personally,For helping me...You guys are the ones that keep me going from going back to analogs....My special thanks goes to...

Birdy....
aschmidy
Kurt

I have placed my order....But like Birdy said before(this is mfs forum) i will not mention from who...What i will say, it was NOT from this forum sponsor...That is for sure.....defiantly his competition though....

Once again Thanks to the above mentioned ECF members you guys are the best....

Happy thanksgiving to you and your families.....

 

[Freedom]

I would like to thank everyone here personally,For helping me...You guys are the ones that keep me going from going back to analogs....My special thanks goes to...

Birdy....
aschmidy
Kurt

I have placed my order....But like Birdy said before(this is mfs forum) i will not mention from who...What i will say, it was NOT from this forum sponsor...That is for sure.....defiantly his competition though....

Once again Thanks to the above mentioned ECF members you guys are the best....

Happy thanksgiving to you and your families.....

Redrhino..Sorry but I've been taking care of my father the past 10 days in the hospital and haven't had time to keep up with my forum. I am glad you did find what you needed and in the future if you do need VG only with 0 PG we can only make our DIY unflavored juice without adding any PG. Most if not all flavorings available to us are made with PG. The only way I know of to get juice that doesn't contain PG is to order it from China that way and I don't know of any suppliers that do that. If they are made from scratch here in the states, more than likely they will contain a small amount of PG. Hope this helps and sorry I wasn't able to get to you earlier.
Have a great Thanksgiving!

Chris

 

[redrhino]

Dear Freedom/MFS...I do want to Thank you for your response,it is greatly appreciated....And Thank you, for your HONESTY that is more appreciated than you know...I 'am very truly sorry about your dad,and i will be praying for him this Thanksgiving..Once again,Thank you for your response in a timely matter...And i will be ordering from you, now that i know that you can actually make the juice to my specifications....Thanks again...Happy thanksgiving to you and your family...

P.S
I will buy from you in the near future(hopefully soon cause i did hear a lot of great things about your juice)...AND i will recommend your services to anyone that asks....

 

[AngeLsLuv]

I have been searching high and low about this and thought I passed someone questioning it to, but can't find it on searching.....

I know that we are suposed to be using USP Glycerine.. I had gotten some 100% VG through Jo-Ann Fabrics ages ago.. Well the description on the site didn't elaborate, and thought it was cool so I bought it.. Now on the bottle it says that it is 100% VG but it isn't USP... In a pinch, I have been using it for the past few days.. Will this make me sick. or if it was suposed to make me sick, would it have already??

Still trying to figure out all this 100% VG and USP VG and what the big deal between the both are.. I understand that USP is food grade and is safe for consumption, but since the FDA is claiming that, aren't we all ready to jump on them for trying to take juice away from us (with them trying to claim we are being poisoned). so why listen to them anyway??? It's not like they don't approve drugs that end up injuring or killing people anyway?? *Reminds me of the 1980's.. I was on Halcion sleeping pills and they were the only one's to get me to sleep.. Haven't had a decent night's sleep since back then*.. And Ambian, *LOL* that's like taking Bennadryll or Tylonol PM (which is Tylonol and Bennedryll combined) to get me to sleep- No Way!!!

 

[sbphotog]

RedRhino, pm sent.

 

[Freedom]

USP is "Pharmaceutical" not food grade. Sounds like you have food grade. I have USP Grade idf you need it. I don't know if food grade will harm you or not. Looks like you also got a PM from someone about this. If you need anything else let me know.

Chris

I have been searching high and low about this and thought I passed someone questioning it to, but can't find it on searching.....

I know that we are suposed to be using USP Glycerine.. I had gotten some 100% VG through Jo-Ann Fabrics ages ago.. Well the description on the site didn't elaborate, and thought it was cool so I bought it.. Now on the bottle it says that it is 100% VG but it isn't USP... In a pinch, I have been using it for the past few days.. Will this make me sick. or if it was suposed to make me sick, would it have already??

Still trying to figure out all this 100% VG and USP VG and what the big deal between the both are.. I understand that USP is food grade and is safe for consumption, but since the FDA is claiming that, aren't we all ready to jump on them for trying to take juice away from us (with them trying to claim we are being poisoned). so why listen to them anyway??? It's not like they don't approve drugs that end up injuring or killing people anyway?? *Reminds me of the 1980's.. I was on Halcion sleeping pills and they were the only one's to get me to sleep.. Haven't had a decent night's sleep since back then*.. And Ambian, *LOL* that's like taking Bennadryll or Tylonol PM (which is Tylonol and Bennedryll combined) to get me to sleep- No Way!!!

 

[AngeLsLuv]

USP is "Pharmaceutical" not food grade. Sounds like you have food grade. I have USP Grade idf you need it. I don't know if food grade will harm you or not. Looks like you also got a PM from someone about this. If you need anything else let me know.

Chris

Hi Freedom,

Thankys for being so kind..

Oh!! See, this is where I'm all comfused over this.. 8-o Being that it's 100% VG I thought it was ok being that it is all veggie..

Problem is that on the forum, many people are posting about how you need VG- USP... On the bottle of this VG it says "not for internal use", but since it's 100% it doesn't seem posible that it's bad for you (in other words, "*^%$%$&&*#$@@^& the FDA" *LOL*)..

Along with this, someone posted about this same VG I have (same company/brand) and asked pretty much the same question (I can't find it)... One person replied that since it was vaped and not drank/injested that they thought it would be fine.. Yet, vaping, it would hit the back of your throat (at least)..

I questioned it because it has bit of a wierd taste to it until you get used to it... Just wanted to make sure, and wondered what others thought about this...

Seems as if it's going in circles

 

[markarich159]

I have heard a lot of great things about the MFS...But i have never placed an order as of yet,because I'm not sure if he sells 100% VG juice....But everyone seems to be buying the VG juice from MFS...I tried several times to place my order but there is no option to choose VG on the site.. I would Like to become a customer just not sure how to get the VG though....

P.S
And one last thing... Can someone please tell me for sure if he defiantly has 100% VG Because that is all i can vape....NO PG AT ALL.....Thanks in advance.....

Please read here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/52669-pg-vg-labeling-purity-please-read.html

there is no such thing as 100% glycerin, even the FDA labeling spec is 99.5% anhydrous glycerin

 

[AngeLsLuv]

Please read here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/52669-pg-vg-labeling-purity-please-read.html

there is no such thing as 100% glycerin, even the USP spec is 99.5%

Thank You Mark

That's really detailed.. So I guess the purest form would be "Kosher".. I'm going to have to look for this online (this is what I get for living in the middle of nowhere on a friggin' mountain.. Can't find anything here *LOL*)

 

[markarich159]

Thank You Mark

That's really detailed.. So I guess the purest form would be "Kosher".. I'm going to have to look for this online (this is what I get for living in the middle of nowhere on a friggin' mountain.. Can't find anything here *LOL*)

No the best IS USP grade. But in order to be sure that your getting Glycerin, USP, the labeling MUST be specific:

If a product does not follow this labeling protocol, it cannot be considered to be USP grade. The actual name of the product(on the front of the bottle) must be in this format

{Name of product , USP}​

or


Quote:

{name of product}
USP​

So, for example, if a bottle of glycerin is pure by USP standards it must read:


Quote:

Glycerin, USP​

or


Quote:

Glycerin
USP​

Other items that should also be included on a proper USP standard drug listed for OTC sale are:

• Drug Facts (HEADING)
• Active Ingredient - Purpose
• Uses
• Warnings
• Directions
• Other Information
• Inactive Ingredients (if any)
• Contact Information
• Lot # and a REAL, Actual Expiration Date (not just x number of years from purchase).

and the "active ingredient" will say anhydrous Glycerin 99.5%.

Kosher is totally different:
Kosher(Kashrut) Law:
Kashrut(kosher) laws are Jewish religious dietary laws having to do with the preparation of food products and really have nothing to do with the labeled purity of the product. Also, Kashrut(kosher) laws are jurisdictional(handled differently in different places). In some cases a rabbi must come to the manufacturer and verify processes and equipment conform to kosher law and in some places it's enough that the manufacturer says or thinks he is conforming to the kosher laws. In any case USP and Kosher are 2 different things. There is no such listing in the USP for "Kosher Glycerin"

There is also no “Vegetable Glycerin” monograph in the USP....

So anything labeled as "vegetable Glycerine" is NOT truly USP grade.