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Fir3b1rd

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Started to read the whole thread but gave up.
Most of all of us have been there and done that and learned the hard way- sorry i know that statement doesn't help.
If it were me
- I would soak the atty in water and vinegar for about an hour then rinse and dry it
-make sure all oils are out of the cracks and crevices of the atty.

-use 28g instead of 24g- 24 works great when you're suborning but you're not you're trying to do 1 ohm and 24g is to thick to heat at such a large build for it.
-28g at 10-12 wraps should get you somewhere between 0.9 and 1.2 ohm depending on what you're wrapping around.
-Install the coil without it being torched
-build it Untorched as we'll keeps it more malleable and easier to work with
-Once installed dry burn it and when you release the fire button use some pliers to close the gaps in the coil by piling the cool together gently with the pliers- it'll take a few dry burns to do this (this process takes the place of torching it and let's you harden to coil in place I find it easier to get the coil to burn evenly this way)
-Use small pieces of cotton it'll take smaller than you think as cotton expands when wet or use silica- no shame in silica some prefer it.
Hopefully that helps you a bit
Sorry you're having issues. But as I've said we've all learned the same way.
 

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edyle please explain the deal with pulsing coils on a mech I want to know

If you're use a mech to dry burn your coil with no kick, you are putting the full 4 volts accross the coil so you have to be carefull not to hold the button down too long otherwise you can burn out the coil.


With my vamo or zmax, I can set the power to 3 watts and hold the button down as long as I want without burning out the coil (regular 2 ohm coils); the coils glow red, so that's enough to dryburn.
 

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A simple cheap bic lighter will do. You can pick up a pack of 8 for a buck or two at most of your dollar stores.

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I don't torch my coils; picked up a trick at the b&m i wrap my coils; and I use pieces cut off a wire coat hanger for that, gives me a gorgeous coil and ruining dual coils a perfect 1 ohm at 10 wraps, after I install the coil I dry burn it and pinch it together with needle nose to take out the malleability. That say it's still springy in case I have to re-wrap or put another wrap in or take one out. But I won't wick till all that's done spends more time with the deck but haven't had a problem yet.
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Well with all your guys imput got my self some drill bits tweezers and a ohm reader on the way. So now I can build the correct way measure my ohms and diameter of coil also how much strain it is putting on battery. I think im ready?:ohmy:

Awesome!!!! After the first 2 or three builds you get right it becomes second nature
 

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yeah you'll be working like a factory Robot in no time :D GL


Well with all your guys imput got my self some drill bits tweezers and a ohm reader on the way. So now I can build the correct way measure my ohms and diameter of coil also how much strain it is putting on battery. I think im ready?:ohmy:
 

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If you're use a mech to dry burn your coil with no kick, you are putting the full 4 volts accross the coil so you have to be carefull not to hold the button down too long otherwise you can burn out the coil.


With my vamo or zmax, I can set the power to 3 watts and hold the button down as long as I want without burning out the coil (regular 2 ohm coils); the coils glow red, so that's enough to dryburn.

Yes mate I understand that but you said you can't pulse and squeeze a coil on a mech as it short's the battery and I said thanks I didn't know that, so I wondered off and asked for a second opinion and they confirmed that what I had been doing all along was the right way :) hahahaaaa you confused the hell out of me!

If you have a regulated mod, then you can pulse the coil to redness, but if all you have is a mech, then if your coil is shorting, pulsing the coil will be shorting the battery.

If you have a lighter you can use that to burn in the coil before screwing it down; burn it good till it glows red. The reason is to reduce shorts by making a layer of oxide on the surface of the wire.


Try a toothpick for wrapping the coil; you don't have to be exact for your first few coils; after a few coils then you will have your own preferences whether you want a bigger diameter or smaller diameter coil.

So this ^^what you say above that pulse/squeezing a coil on a mech will short the battery is false! :)
 
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He said then if your coil is shorting, then you will short the battery on a mech. A regulated mod has short protection (usually).

yep! so you won't be pulsing on your regulated mod either if you have a short...

Read the middle paragraph!(in the second boxed quote) it sound's like he's talking about the short's you get before you get the coil glowing evenly from the center out, and that is what I presumed he was talking about in the first paragraph of the second boxed quote.

Unless you know your rba etc inside out your not going to make a coil and just start pulsing it without checking with a meter which will tell you you have a short or not , it don't make sense
 

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Yes mate I understand that but you said you can't pulse and squeeze a coil on a mech as it short's the battery and I said thanks I didn't know that, so I wondered off and asked for a second opinion and they confirmed that what I had been doing all along was the right way :) hahahaaaa you confused the hell out of me!



So this ^^what you say above that pulse/squeezing a coil on a mech will short the battery is false! :)

Oh; if you squeeze the coil with metal tweezers while you are holding down the fire button, then, you'd be shorting it out right?
But if you release the fire button before squeezing the coil, then it won't short.
 
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