Help...rancid taste.

[Quexos]

I've been vaping a week now (Joye 510 atty). All was well until today. All of a sudden the taste just went rancid on me. I mean horrid, gross taste. Not the dry atty harsh taste, but just rotten, awful taste with no resemblance to the usual flavor of the juice....more like a new atty with factory primer or something.

The attys heat up perfectly, I get tons of vapor, just horrid tasting. I boiled them, rinsed them every which way, blew them out, I boiled the carts and all look nice, clean and new still to the eye. I tried direct dripping to rule out cart or filler funk. I put a brand new atty on, nothing gets it out! I only have one flavor of juice left right now and it's about 3 day old Pina Colada that still smells great in the bottle. What the Hell did I do to bork up my vapor?!?!

The taste is hard to describe...not like burning plastic, not harsh like a dry atty...just...awful, maybe a bit bitter. Could juice just somehow spoil or go bad? I don't think that's it though because a couple times I thought I had it fixed...got like 3 good tasting hits, then wham, back to rancid.

Hell, I almost thought it was just me, but everything else tastes normal to me and this is not just a little "off tasting", it is spit and gag horrid! that and as I said I got a couple normal hits so...help? What am I forgetting here?

 

[Rocketman]

Q,
with a new atty, no cart, same taste?

A) your battery stinks , ego right?
B) your smeller went bad ,
C) juice went bad.

I have never had taste or smell come from a battery,
My smeller never worked anyway, and
I have had the rotten old juice taste from old pre-filled carts about a year old.
Unless your juice got left out in a hot car yesterday, I doubt it's the juice.
Without another flavor, or just PG or VG to test with you can't absolutely eliminate it though. I'd flush one atty with the juice you have and blow it out.
Go gargle to clear out your mouth and try again.
Once a flooded atty starts vaping, it will taste like the juice, period, for at least a couple of vapes. If the bad taste is there with the first wet vape, it's the juice, if not, it's the atty (all of them?)
and never let yourself get that low on juice again.

Rocket

 

[francomakou]

I have this problem too.. What is it? Makes me want to puke!

How does a battery stink?

 

[DaBrat]

This happens to me occasionally, tastes like the atty going bad and as the PP said after a wet vape all is good. This usually happens when I bork up and leave a wet cart on overnight. Who knows why.

 

[yanks21]

You could've eaten something that threw your taste buds out of whack. Any time I eat something like onions all of my juice tastes like garbage until I drink a cup of coffee to cleanse my palate.

 

[Quexos]

OK...I took the 2 Attys off the batteries, held them over the sink and flooded them with my TV Pina Colada until a drop ran out the hole on the battery/threaded side. Then flipped them over cart side down and let them drain/soak in it 5 minutes. Then blew them out. about 2-3 drops flew out of each. Cleaned the threads and cart opening a bit with a towel. All my attys are Joye brand stock 3.7v from brand new to one week old. All look new and clean inside visibly.

Then I put one on my pass through, the other on my Tornado battery with an empty cart (no filler). Puff, puff, draw. Tasted like harsh, dry atty. I put 2 drops of Pina Colada in. Harsh dry atty. Put 2 more drops. Gurgle gurgle, a touch of flavor almost no vapor. Flooded again right? Where the heck is the sweet spot for dripping?

I blew them out again, then put fresh filled carts on both. The one on the pass through tasted good for 2 hits then went back to the flavor of licking the back side of a 4 day old road killed Armadillo in Texas in July. The one on the battery (brand new Joye) pretty much refuses produce any vapor and tastes like road kill. Both were rinsed in boiling (purified, not flavored, not tap) water and blown out last night, then left to dry over night.

Setting these 2 attys aside and moving on to the 2 that came with my Tornado the other day. One barely used, the other new. Both been boiled yesterday. Will post results in a bit...

Edit: Both the new attys that came with my Tornado are giving vapor after dripping on them, but they have no taste (at least it's not Armadillo road kill back side flavored) . Maybe some water drops remained after rinsing, blowing out and drying 18 hours (in dry Arizona)? I'll keep working these and see if I can work...whatever out of them.

 

[Quexos]

Argh...this is not turning out to be a good vaping day. The two new attys that came with my Tornado either give little vapor or taste and behave as if bordering on flooded, give dry atty, harsh taste, and little to no vapor, or give good vapor and no real taste leaving a musty, dirty, bitter after taste, with an occasional good hint of flavor that makes me think I'm on the right track, but then back to yuk.

Getting a bit frustrated with this now.

 

[BradSmith]

I have had that problem but I have always been able to fix it. I have to say that it's not realy making sense to me. If you put new atties on and blew out the primer and if your batteries are charged up good you shouldn't have this problem. If they were old atties I would suggest removing the wick and if you don't mind dripping the bridge as well. I prefer mine without the bridge because I only drip and it gets a little warmer and the flavor doesn't get stuck in the mesh and threads from the wick. getting them really dry before re-primeing is important. A blowdryer is great for that.

I wish I had something that could fix your problem but I really can't think of what is going wrong.

 

[Kurt]

I have had that problem but I have always been able to fix it. I have to say that it's not realy making sense to me. If you put new atties on and blew out the primer and if your batteries are charged up good you shouldn't have this problem. If they were old atties I would suggest removing the wick and if you don't mind dripping the bridge as well. I prefer mine without the bridge because I only drip and it gets a little warmer and the flavor doesn't get stuck in the mesh and threads from the wick. getting them really dry before re-primeing is important. A blowdryer is great for that.

I wish I had something that could fix your problem but I really can't think of what is going wrong.

Sorry, had to jump in here. I would not recommend removing the wick. At least not until all other roads have been explored. Very easy to kill the atty...in fact I've killed every one I removed the wick from. Its a crap shoot, as the wick can often be wrapped up with the coil.

To the OP: I would soak the attys with the taste in Crest Health Pro mouthwash, or some non-alcohol mouth wash, for 10 minutes. Heat it up in the microwave before you put the atty in (don't nuke the atty!). Then flush it out with lots of hot water. I put a little hot water in the palm of my hand, and putting my lips around the cart end, suck and blow the water in and out of the atty several times. Then let it dry over night or dry it with a blow dryer. Put it on the batt, no cart, no juice, and press the button in 5 second bursts, letting it cool a bit between bursts, until you see a strong orange glow from the coil inside. This is dry burning, and it will help get burned juice off the coil.

Then repeat all steps, including the Crest. After a second round of these steps, and it is dry and glowing well, put 2 drops of juice on the bridge, attach the full cart, and vape.

Another issue here could be a stray filler fiber is poking down into the coil. This happens and leads to nasty tastes. Most of us get rid of the stock filler and use another better filler like aquarium foam or another cart mod. But at the very least make sure there are no stray fibers sticking up from the cart. The filler should be slightly below the cart top, and cupped into a bowl shape due to the bridge pushing it in.

Adding drops until the atty is leaking is not recommended. You are soaking the coil, and juice will burn onto it, leading to more taste issues.

Good luck!

 

[Quexos]

I have 2 attys I rinsed in Crest Pro Health then rinsed in hot water. I'm letting them dry for a good 2 days to be damned sure there's no water hanging around. I also have 2 new attys and new juice being shipped so I can sort of start over clean with an unmolested atty just in case any of my previous cleaning experiments are the cause.

 

[me who]

Not sure if you've seen this thread about the 510's

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ving-off-chemical-unbearable-taste-smell.html

I've had really good atty's and some not so good, I'd try ordering a few from another vendor,

 

[Quexos]

Not sure if you've seen this thread about the 510's

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ving-off-chemical-unbearable-taste-smell.html

I've had really good atty's and some not so good, I'd try ordering a few from another vendor,

Ugh. That means I got maybe 2 out 6 atomizers that is not the crappy kind. All 6 are authentic Joye.

 

[camel522]

Sorry, had to jump in here. I would not recommend removing the wick. At least not until all other roads have been explored. Very easy to kill the atty...in fact I've killed every one I removed the wick from. Its a crap shoot, as the wick can often be wrapped up with the coil.

To the OP: I would soak the attys with the taste in Crest Health Pro mouthwash, or some non-alcohol mouth wash, for 10 minutes. Heat it up in the microwave before you put the atty in (don't nuke the atty!). Then flush it out with lots of hot water. I put a little hot water in the palm of my hand, and putting my lips around the cart end, suck and blow the water in and out of the atty several times. Then let it dry over night or dry it with a blow dryer. Put it on the batt, no cart, no juice, and press the button in 5 second bursts, letting it cool a bit between bursts, until you see a strong orange glow from the coil inside. This is dry burning, and it will help get burned juice off the coil.

Then repeat all steps, including the Crest. After a second round of these steps, and it is dry and glowing well, put 2 drops of juice on the bridge, attach the full cart, and vape.

Another issue here could be a stray filler fiber is poking down into the coil. This happens and leads to nasty tastes. Most of us get rid of the stock filler and use another better filler like aquarium foam or another cart mod. But at the very least make sure there are no stray fibers sticking up from the cart. The filler should be slightly below the cart top, and cupped into a bowl shape due to the bridge pushing it in.

Adding drops until the atty is leaking is not recommended. You are soaking the coil, and juice will burn onto it, leading to more taste issues.

Good luck!

I had read about the crest pro health in another thread and got some today. Started noticing a nasty taste in one of my 302's, so I tried it out. Something strange I noticed is that after I was done with the crest, I rinsed it out very thoroughly, blew water through, etc., but there was some clumped up blue crest stuff inside the atty. I tried more rinsing and no success. I had to take one of those little "between the teeth" cleaners with the little bristles to reach down to the bridge and gently get it off. If even looked to be on the wick itself (hard to tell on the 302). Did I do something wrong? Ever experience it before? I did a few dry burns, re-rinsed with water, and I'm about to juice it up now to see if it is okay, I'll let you know, but meantime, anyone else experience the clumping of crest pro health?

 

[CaptJay]

You should revisit your thread about this on TV forum - someone posted something about Pina colada that you might find of interest.

 

[Rambosmurf]

I still have almost every atty I started out with, except for the ones lost due to doing something stupid to them. I use the O-ring and syringe method to clean them out. Works great and will remove any flavor, taste, etc from the atty. A video shows it for cartomizers but works great to clean attys.
Look under technical. tips and tricks. Clean Cartomizers Quick and Easy on this forum.

 

[budster]

I vote that you remove the wick. Thats the only thing that brought one of my atomizers back. I was about ready to throw all of my vaping stuff in the trash and go buy a pack of smokes! Look for melting on the edges of your cartridges. They can be trimmed if necessary. If you do a search here or on Google videos, there will be videos showing you how to do all of this..

Good luck!

Bud - A former Goodyear Tire And Rubber vaper!