Help with desired coil/wire build

[Darkest_Z3bra]

Hey, I'm fairly new to building coils. Been vaping since 2015 between sub ohm pre builds and premade coils. Just started getting into actually building my own coils. Which brings me to my question. I'm currently running a double twist with 22 gauge Kanthal a1, on a duel coil RTA with 6 wraps. I'm not getting much flavor, but a decent cloud. Not so much into the could chasing anymore.

I'm curious if I should change up my wire before I do another twisted or if I could change the twist. Any thoughts?

 

[LuckyBlackCat]

Generally, when someone is learning to build coils it progresses something like this..
Round wire
Twisted wire
Clapton/ Staggered Clapton
Fused Clapton/ Staggered Fused Clapton
Staples
Aliens

This isnt always the case, and these aren't even all the possible ways to make coils but these are the most common listed in order of difficulty and if you can do all these you can do pretty much any coil.

I vape pretty heavy with sweet/ fruit flavors. If I use a Clapton or anything simpler my flavor is gone by the next day. With a fused clapton or better it lasts between 4-8 days. But fused claptons take time to make and they use much more wire than a twisted coil, so twisted coils still have uses. Say I just made some DIY juice, or even just bought some new juice that I wasn't sure of the flavor on. I could twist a coil and throw it in an rda, test the juice, then break it down and have it cleaning in the ultrasonic in the time it would take just to make a fused clapton. That's about all I use them for now

 

[yoshi.poshi]

So twisted coils were the first departure I ever made from standard round wire. And that changed the game for me. For a long time it became all about what I could learn to build and chasing clouds and flavor. It’s a good trip. Enjoy it.

Now lack of flavor on a twisted build. Hmmm. I’ll tell you twisted builds can have a lot of flavor. So if it’s lacking in flavor you may want to look at how you are placing your coils. You may want to experiment with where you are positioning your coils in relation to your air intake. Try raising the coils higher in the chamber. Try wider wraps. Try a single coil as opposed to a dual coil.

As I got into exotics I learned that a single coil often did the job for flavor much better than a dual coil build did. Duals are great for clouds in my experience. But nothing beats a single coil exotic for flavor.

Fused Claptons are worth learning. They’re the gateway to a great many exotics. And they’re still my go to to this day. Aliens are fun. Staples are delicious (but a ..... to wrap). Braids are surprisingly flavorful and fun to throw together. With twisted wire you open the door to helix builds in which you can rope wires into the crevices of your original twisted wires and then you start stacking staples and fused claptons and staggered claptons and aliens between two twisted wires and helixing everything together with corrugated wire in the gaps and then before you know it your Instagram famous. Haha.

But I’m getting ahead of myself. Point is enjoy the process. Remember to breathe while you’re building. It’s a fun journey.

Get an RDA. You can only build so much into an RTA honestly and your builds in terms of exotics are more difficult - generally speaking. Most RTAs with exotics require smaller wire which is harder to work with and not as conducive to learning. With an RDA suited for exotic builds you can get away with much chunkier wire.

With an RDA I would build with a mix of 24, 26, maybe 28 for core wires. 36 and 38 for surrounding wire / Clapton wire. With an RTA build I’d be messing with 28 or 30 for my cores and 40 or 42 for my claptons and that stuff is hard to work with.