Help with looking for a new VV PV

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Pras21

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Hello Ladies and gents!
Right now im using a 510 ego vv passthrough/battery with a cisco LR bridgless atty. I love it. But...
I would like to make that my back up batt. I am looking for a VV greater than or equal to 650 mah that has a switch or the capacity to be turned off. Also, they can be used with a tank right? Is see batteries that have a T in the name, whats the difference between a regular battery?
Can you please also suggest a tank that has warm vapor production and minimal leakage. Thanks in advance!
 

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Variable voltage setups all seem to be stronger than 650mah, if only because at higher voltages, you're using more battery life than you would at a lower voltage. So greater than 650 is easy to do. :)

If the battery has a T in the name like this: "ego-T", that's actually a reference to the ego's alternative tank and atomizer system, not necessarily the battery itself. A battery that would work on an ego-T would also work on an ego, or on a Riva tankomizer, or any number of other 510-threaded devices.

I think the answers to these questions would be helpful for people trying to assist in pinning down what you're looking for:

1) Do you want variable voltage specifically, or are you just looking for a battery with a longer charge time? If it's the latter, you can pick up 900mah or 1100mah ego/kgo/Riva batteries that work just fine with your current 510-threaded equipment. :) If it's the former, read on.

2) If you do want variable voltage, what price range are you looking at to start out with for your new setup? That makes a big difference in terms of what people would recommend. (Well, actually, some people will recommend Provari no matter what, even though that's a couple hundred dollars -- but there's other VV mods that are much less that're good to experiment with to find out if that is, in fact, what you're looking for.)

3) When you say "tank", are you thinking in terms of the ego-type tanks, or are you talking about a cartomizer-and-tank combo, or something else? Keep in mind that the tank itself is just a means of holding liquid, and that the actual warmth comes from the PV and its cartomizer or atomizer, not from the tank.


Typically, the higher the voltage you're running, the warmer the vapor will be. This is not necessarily universally true, but it seems to be a standard rule. Since you're familiar with the 510's ego passthrough, you're accustomed to something between 3.3 and 3.7 volts. If you like the warmth that it presently produces, then you probably don't necessarily need variable voltage. However, you might want to try a VV mod and see if it works well for you in terms of flavor and vapor production.

I have a lavatube-type VV mod that does voltage between 3-6 volts, going up or down in increments of .1 volt. This provides me the capability to test at different levels of voltage to see what I enjoy. However, not all things work well with higher voltage (or lower voltage, for that matter), so it takes a little tinkering to see what'll work well for you.
 

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Ahh, I love this site.. :)
Thanks for that respones @ladypixel . I should had been more specific.
1) i dont think i want anything more than 900 mah, cuz im in miami and we wear tight jeans here. Lol, I just dont wanna lug around something bigger than a 900 mah, if i cant stick in my pocket or i'll lose it.
2)Price range under 60, because even though it may be compact, im probably gonna lose it. Your right, I think I am happy with just three vv settings. I find that I vape between 3vts on attys and 3.7 on carts
3) You know thanks for bringing up the carto tanks. I totally forgot about those. I would imagine that those cartomizer mini tanks would be be hotter than those actual tank set ups. I have tryed the fluxomizers on clearomizers. Great vapor but not too happy with the warmth of vapor @2.3 ohms and 4.2 volts.

Jeeze, im all over the place with grammar and thoughts placed into words. sorry for the mess!!

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The only VV PV in the price range you are looking for is going to be the Lavatube or Lavatube Mini.

Lavatube Mini VV Tube 510 Mod Body only 3 to 6 Volt
The Mini is 30mm shorter than the original and only uses a single 18350 IMR high-drain battery.
One VV body
Features :
On/Off (Small Red Power Button):
Press and hold for 5 seconds to turn on device
Press and hold for 5 second to turn off device
(+) Button:
On press, increases voltage by .1 increment between 3volt and 6 volt. When you reach 6 volts, the user starts back at 3 volts
(-) Button:
On press, decreases voltage by .1 increment between 3 volt and 6 volt. When you reach 3 volts, the user starts back at 6 volts
(+) and (–) Button:
Press and hold both buttons for five second to disable the + and – button

Features:
· Regulated output which keeps the voltage the same with each puff - regardless of your remaining battery power. As the battery drains, the device will keep the voltage consistent.
· If the activation button is held down for 10 seconds or longer, the VV will shut itself off until the button is released.
· Short Circuit/Atomizer Protection
· Reverse Battery Protection - Protects against reverse battery installation.
· Battery Monitoring/Over-Discharge Protection – Device should monitor the battery voltage and automatically turn off when the battery is discharged.
· Amperage Limiting to 2.5 amps – The device should monitor and shut itself off if it detects any excessive over-current conditions.
· Vent hole on the bottom of the device for added safety

The Mini is the one on the right. Should cost you $50 for the mod only. No Batteries or Charger.
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1) i dont think i want anything more than 900 mah, cuz im in miami and we wear tight jeans here. Lol, I just dont wanna lug around something bigger than a 900 mah, if i cant stick in my pocket or i'll lose it.

Y'know, I thought that too, at first. With my egos, I've got 650's, 900's, and 1100's. The 650's seem impossibly small to me right now -- I use the 900's and the 1100's all the time, and trust me, they fit fine into the pocket of my jeans (although the 1100 has a tendency to stick up slightly above the top of the pocket). If you've got an ego 650mah battery, imagine about another half-inch of length (no increase in width) for the 900, and about 1.25" longer than a 650 for an 1100, rough figures. But if an inch and a quarter converts into almost double the battery life, I think it helps. ;) Diameter's the same for any ego-type batteries.

Now, in terms of mods, the batteries go into the mod, so what I think you're concerned about is the size of the mod. My lavatube-type is like... mmm... a narrow-handled screwdriver in size. Basically, set a quarter on the table, put your ego batt on top of it, that's the diameter difference in going up to a lavatube. So if you're concerned with the diameter, that particular VV may not work out ideally.

However... there's the option of box mods. Maximum Vapors (one of the ECF vendors) has a box mod for VV that's around $60, but it does not come with the batteries or charger that need to go with it, so you will need to pick up those (either from another vendor or from him, whichever). And those are no worse to stick into your pocket than a pack of cigarettes would've been.

2)Price range under 60, because even though it may be compact, im probably gonna lose it. Your right, I think I am happy with just three vv settings. I find that I vape between 3vts on attys and 3.7 on carts

You'd be surprised how much your thinking on that may change with VV mods. I was perfectly happy with how everything acted/tasted until I tried one of my bakery juices (a cinnamon roll flavor) at 4.6 and was hit with the rich, decadent taste of buttery cinnamon roll to the point where I wondered if I could chew it. ;) But it's still trial and error to a point to find what works best for you. Most of my juices, I tend to use in the 3.6-4.4 range now, and I'm perfectly happy there. Higher voltage does wonders for tobacco juices, I've heard, but I haven't actually played with that (I'm fine with my tobacco juices at lower voltage). The range I'm in right now means that I still can use my egos while on the go, but I can go for a richer and more flavorful vape at my desk at work or at home, where whipping out a screwdriver-sized PV won't get me strange looks.

3) You know thanks for bringing up the carto tanks. I totally forgot about those. I would imagine that those cartomizer mini tanks would be be hotter than those actual tank set ups. I have tryed the fluxomizers on clearomizers. Great vapor but not too happy with the warmth of vapor @2.3 ohms and 4.2 volts.

Not necessarily. For my ego batts, one of the best purchases I made was Riva-T tankomizers. They're nicely contained for on-the-go vaping, look good, and have screw-on caps that look like pen caps (which makes them less obtrusive if you tuck them in a pocket). But with those on a 650 batt, I notice my warmth drops rapidly during usage as the battery gets discharged, and it's almost a cold vape right before my batt needs charging (not necessarily bad, but not much vapor at that point). The Riva-T's run at about 3 ohm. On a Riva-standard battery instead of the ego batteries (same shape/design, slightly higher voltage), I find that the Riva-T works even better, because the Riva batts tend to run at around 3.7 standard where the ego batts are a little less (3.4ish).

Still -- for consistency's sake, you still are going to want to invest in a VV mod, if only because the batteries in 'em hold out a lot longer and thus produce a more reliable hit over long-term. It's probably something you won't use while out on the go as much, unless of course you're going to a vaper meet, at which point everyone'll be whipping out the wild mods. :)
 

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at a $60 budges, what else are the real options? as to my data I posted, that was taken from the manufacturer's site, and I take no credit for the information they provided.

I did extensive testing with the Lavatube, and found that voltage drop from a fully charged battery to dead in its tracks was -1.1 volts while set at 6.0 volts. Not bad at all for the price, IMHO...and I still vape mine!
 

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Yes, it's done. Please don't vape with it.

Might have been the charger. Better safe than sorry for sure, but a minute or two with a multimeter might be the difference between replacing a $40 battery and a $8.00 charger.

Not in the price range..but nice to dream...I would LOVE to have one...someday.

vvpv

Worth every penny. This last week has been the most hassle-free and enjoyable vaping week since i started.
 

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Might have been the charger. Better safe than sorry for sure, but a minute or two with a multimeter might be the difference between replacing a $40 battery and a $8.00 charger.



Worth every penny. This last week has been the most hassle-free and enjoyable vaping week since i started.

Cant wait for it!!! How long does apollo usually take to ship?
Also, I know its just a cheap ego, im prolly gonna toss it since the smell is coming from the charging port, but when i get my multimeter, how would I test to see whats wrong?
Thanks!
 

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but when i get my multimeter, how would I test to see whats wrong?

Probes on power and ground for the charger to see if it is putting out 4.2v - and probes on power and ground for the battery + push the button on the batt to activate the circuit to see if it is putting out whatever it is set for (you said it was VV - 3 settings?). If the charger isn't putting out anything or isn't putting out what it is supposed to, then it's the charger. If the charger checks out, just toss the battery and get a new one.

EDIT:

Here is a good place to start figuring out what to do with a multimeter and e-cig stuff. there are dozens of e-cig & multimeter related videos on youtube.
 
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