Help with Resistance and voltage please!

[Urzu S3V3N]

Hey guys,

Im quite new at VV/VW vaping and I need some help.

First off, let me tell you my equipment.

MOD: Vamo V5
Clearo's: Protank 3 and Hypertank


The problem I have is this.

On the voltage charts that are flying around it suggests that on a 1.6ohm coil I should not go above 3.6v
Is this correct?

I was just watching a video on youtube about a guy using a hypertank straight from the box with included coils (1.6ohm single coil) and he went straight to 11W.

Ive been using it at around 3.2-3.6v which is only around 7W.

To me, 11W is way too high. Am I missing something?


Also, does anyone have any tips on how to stop the hypertank from gurgling? I can use it for ages without a gurgle but after a while, or if I leave it alone for 30mins - 1 hour, it starts to gurgle and I end up having to take the bottom off and blow through the clearo and the coil which shows quite a bit of juice coming flying out.

Many thanks,

7

 

[ykalon]

Those charts works as a guideline. A strict theoretical guideline.... There are to many variables involved to construct a "true" chart imo. I trust my taste buds and set the wattage to what juice and mood I'm in

 

[sawlight]

The charts are a generic guideline to start with. There have been numerous changes in the way we vape recently, with larger wire, different wicking materials etc..
Then with everything else vaping related, it's all subjective, I have friends that like 5 watts, I have friends that like 12 watts and I like 8-10 watts on most things. But sometimes you need to crank it up to get what you need, and sometimes you need to turn it down to get what you want.

 

[Urzu S3V3N]

But wont these high voltage on such a low resistance coil cause damage/pop/produce a burnt taste?

Im hella confused!

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi and welcome!

As ykalon said, numbers and equations are only (rough) guidelines. You vape what tastes good to you. With a new topper, start low and increase the power until you like it. It doesn't matter what the numbers say or what anyone else sets their devices to. Different juice taste better at different settings and, if you're like me, even with the same juice you might fine tune the power setting throughout the day.

Hypertanks, like all of those little thingys we fill with liquid that are mass-produced overseas have the potential to leak. Anything with liquid inside has the potential to leak. I guess I've gotten used to it. I know with some of my glassos they will leak right after I fill them, so I blow them out, let them sit, blow them out and then use them. I've also gotten into the habit off taking toppers off periodically (even if they aren't gurgling) and wiping off the battery connection. I'm not the sort to run out and buy new devices in hopes they will work perfectly. I take what I have and try to figure out what the problem is - but that's just me. I like puzzles.

 

[The Ocelot]

But wont these high voltage on such a low resistance coil cause damage/pop/produce a burnt taste?

Im hella confused!

There are too many variables to give you a clear answer about this. I can't stress enough that vaping to taste is what's important.

 

[Katya]

Hi Urzu. First of all, is your Hyper tank a dual coil device? Sorry, I'm not familiar with it.

 

[Trane]

Hi Urzu!

I started vaping with an Etna/Vamo V2 last year, and I also used a Protank II for a couple of months...
Don't be afraid to pump up the "volume" a bit; a 1.6 build needs 4.2 V to reach 11W, and this value is absolutely fine and well within the approved value of the usage parameters of the Vamo chip.

(To reach it's limits you would use a 1.2 ohm build at 6V - it would reach the max. amperage of 5V.)

So don't be afraid to play with the voltage/wattage within the acceptable limit.
You will instantly feel the differences as you try...
As you raise the performance the atty will heat up (but the coil won't pop at this resistance level - don't be afraid).
The throat hit will increase and the flavours will be more intense (and of course: significantly increased vapor production!)
The flavour will change into harsh before the first dry hit - this will tell you where to stop...

I never used Hypertank, but as I see, it has the same coil system just like the Protank.
Gurgling usually means that the flow of the liquid is way too easy, wich signifies that the wick's density (the core diameter) is too low.
This also depends on the PG/VG ratio of the liquid that you use.
If you build your own replacement coils try to use thicker silica / fiberglass...

As I remember a 1.6 protank coil works well with a 2x2mm wick (+ 2x1mm flavour wick on the top of the wrap) in case of vaping "equilibrium"-liquid (50%Pg/50%Vg).

Keep trying at different voltages and with various coil configs, and you'll suceed to find your sweet spot soon!

 

[Katya]

But wont these high voltage on such a low resistance coil cause damage/pop/produce a burnt taste?

Im hella confused!

If it's a single coil, yes and yes and yes.

Stock atomizers are not meant to be vaped at such high wattages. I have no idea what people on YouTube are doing, but it is just plain wrong. Do not apply 11 watts of power to a single-coil stock atty. Period.

Only RBAs and dual coil atties can withstand that much heat.

Please read more in the link below.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/524356-ohms-volts-watts.html#post12151082

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi Urzu. First of all, is your Hyper tank a dual coil device? Sorry, I'm not familiar with it.

It uses Protank heads. I have one. It's a nice tank, but it's huge! I discovered a 5ml tank is just too big for me.

HyperTank

 

[Katya]

Thanks Kitty! I looked it up--it uses ProTank stock coils.

Kanger recommends 5.5-7.5 watts. One can go a bit higher, but not to 11. There's nothing to be had at that wattage with a Kanger coil head--only dry hits or possible popped coil.

Dear OP--Kanger single coil atties cannot wick fast enough to supply enough eliquid to keep the coil from overheating. They just can't do it.

However, your ProTank 3 is fine at that wattage because it is a dual-coil atty.

 

[Katya]

Also, does anyone have any tips on how to stop the hypertank from gurgling? I can use it for ages without a gurgle but after a while, or if I leave it alone for 30mins - 1 hour, it starts to gurgle and I end up having to take the bottom off and blow through the clearo and the coil which shows quite a bit of juice coming flying out.

Many thanks,

7

Here you go!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...5.html?highlight=troubleshooting#post12394975

 

[Dshobe]

Urzu, I'm not sure what base the Hypertank uses, but seeing as how it uses the same coils as the Pro Tank 2, perhaps it uses the same base. My PT 2 was gurgling just like your Hypertank, very irritating! I bought a couple Aerotank bases from kangertech.com and the problem is solved!

Sent from a van down by the river.

 

[Glenn_K]

Greetings and welcome to the forum.

I've never used a Pro Tank 3, but with a clearomizer very similar to the Hypertank (i.e. one that uses the same replacement coils), I generally vaped at around 7 watts though, as mentioned above, it really comes down to personal preference.

I dimly recall seeing some written material put out by Kanger for the PT2 (which also uses the same replacement coils as the Hypertank), and iirc, the recommended setting was somewhere around 6 Watts. No harm in starting off in the 'green range' of the chart you have, then raising the wattage (or voltage) bit by bit until you find your preferred setting.

-- Glenn

 

[ZeroWayCool]

As stated - go by your own taste. Even different juices will taste and behave different at different settings - just adjust until it tastes right for you either up or down voltage or wattage. Enjoy

 

[sirpsychoscoot]

I start at 8W. And fluctuate up or down from there. Its about what you like. Start at 8 and explore

Sent from my VS980 4G

 

[KenD]

If it's a single coil, yes and yes and yes.

Stock atomizers are not meant to be vaped at such high wattages. I have no idea what people on YouTube are doing, but it is just plain wrong. Do not apply 11 watts of power to a single-coil stock atty. Period.

Only RBAs and dual coil atties can withstand that much heat.

Please read more in the link below.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/524356-ohms-volts-watts.html#post12151082

I drilled out the airholes on my evods and can go to 15 watts without any issues. With the evods in stock condition I could go to 9-10 watts maximum. So, it seems to be mostly an air flow issue. I've only popped a coil once, and that was when I forgot to turn down the volts when dry-burning

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

 

[Urzu S3V3N]

Thank you for all the replies!

Basically what everyone is saying is, just do what tastes good and forget the 'guidelines'

When you really boil it down to the core, if it pops the coil it pops the coil... lesson learnt.

Dont know why I was so worried about it tbh... the coils are cheap as chips so if I pop 1 or 2.... its not big deal.

I tried going a little higher on my hypertank, went from my usual 3.6 up to 4.2
As soon as I hit 4.0 it tasted wrong so I think 3.6 is about as high as I can go with the way its setup atm.

Much love, thanks again!

 

[sawlight]

Thank you for all the replies!

Basically what everyone is saying is, just do what tastes good and forget the 'guidelines'

When you really boil it down to the core, if it pops the coil it pops the coil... lesson learnt.

Dont know why I was so worried about it tbh... the coils are cheap as chips so if I pop 1 or 2.... its not big deal.

I tried going a little higher on my hypertank, went from my usual 3.6 up to 4.2
As soon as I hit 4.0 it tasted wrong so I think 3.6 is about as high as I can go with the way its setup atm.

Much love, thanks again!

And with that little experiment, you just learned what YOU like! It may taste muted and harsh to me, and someone else may say it's flat and cold, welcome to the subjectivity of vaping!

 

[edyle]

Hey guys,

Im quite new at VV/VW vaping and I need some help.

First off, let me tell you my equipment.

MOD: Vamo V5
Clearo's: Protank 3 and Hypertank


The problem I have is this.

On the voltage charts that are flying around it suggests that on a 1.6ohm coil I should not go above 3.6v
Is this correct?

I was just watching a video on youtube about a guy using a hypertank straight from the box with included coils (1.6ohm single coil) and he went straight to 11W.

Ive been using it at around 3.2-3.6v which is only around 7W.

To me, 11W is way too high. Am I missing something?


Also, does anyone have any tips on how to stop the hypertank from gurgling? I can use it for ages without a gurgle but after a while, or if I leave it alone for 30mins - 1 hour, it starts to gurgle and I end up having to take the bottom off and blow through the clearo and the coil which shows quite a bit of juice coming flying out.

Many thanks,

7

Typical coil runs around 5 watts; for dual coils, it's 5 watts PER COIL.
Also, higher PG ratio can vape at higher wattage.
Bottom coil tanks may leak if you keep them upright; try inverting them.