Help with VW VV plz plz

[Maxwell_Edison]

 just got a new Sigelai 20W Legend. Very nice mod. My first VW VV, I've been usaing only VV for several years. What setting should I use for watts? There must be some kind of default setting to adjust from. I've already experienced both burning and not enough power. I'm trying to figure it out but have no idea where to start. 12w was too high, 8 not enough. tried both mentioned watts at 4.8v, 5v and 5.5v. (I do know the actual setting is a personal preference, but I need a starting point. Believe it or not, google can't even help me with this question).....

I've heard some use only watts, some prefer volts. Do you turn one off and only use one, or do you use both. I can't believe there's no instruction (well I should say that I can't find any instructions) for ppl new to VW VV. So please help me someone

 

[JaRod]

The power is just one of the variables in the equation, what power you are going to vape at depends heavily on the atomizer you are using, how thick is your juice etc.
I'd say you start with a low setting either voltage or wattage, doesn't matter, and increase the output gradually until you reach a point you are happy with. If you start getting dry hits or burnt taste then back up a couple notches and that'll be the best you can get from the combination you are using.
Keep in mind, when you are testing its easy to get dry hits, because oftentimes you try to test everything quickly so basically you chain vape and don't give your wicks enough time to get wet again. SO try a setting, give it a couple puffs, and give it a couple unpowered hits to help you wick get some juice.

 

[Maxwell_Edison]

The power is just one of the variables in the equation, what power you are going to vape at depends heavily on the atomizer you are using, how thick is your juice etc.
I'd say you start with a low setting either voltage or wattage, doesn't matter, and increase the output gradually until you reach a point you are happy with. If you start getting dry hits or burnt taste then back up a couple notches and that'll be the best you can get from the combination you are using.
Keep in mind, when you are testing its easy to get dry hits, because oftentimes you try to test everything quickly so basically you chain vape and don't give your wicks enough time to get wet again. SO try a setting, give it a couple puffs, and give it a couple unpowered hits to help you wick get some juice.

Thanks for replying JaRod. So you're saying start low with watt or volt, but not both? Increase one or the other? If I do that, say I put the watt at 8, then I just increase the volts if I want to use volts? The two don't work together? Grrr. I wish I could find some instructions. I feel like a year in college would be helpful. I do love this thing, and it was hitting perfect yesterday, but when I change tanks at's all out of whack and I can't find the sweet spot.

 

[Baditude]

You will be either in voltage or wattage mode, not both. The last setting you clicked will be the mode you are currently in.

For instance, if you are in voltage mode and change the setting, you will remain in the voltage mode.

Switch to wattage mode and change the setting, you will then remain in the wattage mode.

One mode is not better than the other, they both get you to the same place, just take a different route to the same destination.

This device has a new way to change modes and settings with an internal gyroscope. Sounds complicated to me. PBusardo explains this around the 8.00 minute mark below.

 

[Stosh]

You only get to use one at a time, either VV or VW.

Using VV changes the voltage to give you the wattage you desire for whatever ohms your topper has at the moment...adjust for the best taste....

VW allows you to set the wattage you prefer, and it will be constant even if you switch toppers with different ohms, resistance...again adjust for best taste....

 

[JaRod]

Let me try to explain it, variable voltage or wattage are to ways to do the same, which is increase or decrease the output of your mod. No mod can be in both modes at the same time either you set it for voltage or wattage if available.
SO what happens if you set it to VV, in this mode you adjust the voltage your mod is putting out. the more volts the more power you are using, the mods supply x amount of volts no matter what resistance you are using
In VW the mod calculates another variable which is the resistance of your atomizer and based in a formula it adjusts the VOLTS so you get the desired power. This mode is used to get a consistent vaping experience, for example lets say you find that vaping at 10W works for you, so if you have several atomizers with 1.8, 2, 2.5 ohm you will always vape at 10 watts, now if you set it to VV and vape at 5 volts, you might get the vape you want with a 2.5 Ohm resistance and get a horrible burnt taste with the 1.5 ohm.....

 

[Scott_Simpson]

Since you came from a VV background, I assume you've already found a voltage setting that works well for the resistance of atomizer you are using ... in that case, just use Ohm's law to calculate the wattage at which you have been vaping using your current voltage/resistance, then use that as your "starting point" for your VW setting.

For example, let's suppose you are happy vaping a 1.5Ω atomizer at 4V, using Ohm's Law your effective wattage would be approximately 10.6W. Based on that, since most VW devices set in .5W increments, I'd suggest 10.5W as a starting point.

 

[TomCatt]

VV - variable voltage
VW - variable wattage

As stated by others you can use one or the other; but not both at the same time.

Ohms' Law
Voltage = Current x Resistance (V = I X R)


Wattage = Voltage x Current


Ohm's Law Calculator

Ohm's Law Wheel

 

[Maxwell_Edison]

You will be either in voltage or wattage mode, not both. The last setting you clicked will be the mode you are currently in.

For instance, if you are in voltage mode and change the setting, you will remain in the voltage mode.

Switch to wattage mode and change the setting, you will then remain in the wattage mode.

One mode is not better than the other, they both get you to the same place, just take a different route to the same destination.

This device has a new way to change modes and settings with an internal gyroscope. Sounds complicated to me. PBusardo explains this around the 8.00 minute mark below.

It's actually really easy to use, I was worried about that. 5 clicks on and it stays on till you enter the menu and shut it off or take the battery out. When it's on you push the button 5 more times, volts comes up, push once, watts comes up, etc. To increase volt (watts or whatever) you tilt left or right, after it's set you hold the button and shake it till it vibrates, which lets you know the settings are locked in.

OK, so let me ask this way, if I go to 10 watts and set from there, what should the voltage setting be? Does it matter? If I'm using watts is voltage not functioning? I'd like to set it to 10 watts then get my sweet spot adjusting the voltage, but this isn't how it works? t/y for your help. I'm with ya so far

 

[Baditude]

OK, so let me ask this way, if I go to 10 watts and set from there, what should the voltage setting be? Does it matter? If I'm using watts is voltage not functioning? I'd like to set it to 10 watts then get my sweet spot adjusting the voltage, but this isn't how it works? t/y for your help. I'm with ya so far

Yeah, like we've all been saying, you are either going to be in voltage or wattage mode. Pick one or the other and then make your adjustments. It doesn't matter which one, just pick one. You can find your "sweet spot" in either mode.

 

[Maxwell_Edison]

Alright, thanks for all the help. I understand this now. It's one groovy mod. I have a caro at 10w and it's superb. When my clearos arrive I'll adjust for them with the calculator.

 

[k2zs]

Alright, thanks for all the help. I understand this now. It's one groovy mod. I have a caro at 10w and it's superb. When my clearos arrive I'll adjust for them with the calculator.

I think you're still missing the point here...

10 watts will be 10 watts, no matter what device you put on there, the mod automatically does the "ohms law" calculations to give you that wattage setting. If you need to change the wattage settings at all, it will be due to different juice characteristics, not the ohms rating of the clearo/carto or what ever....

 

[Maxwell_Edison]

I think you're still missing the point here...

10 watts will be 10 watts, no matter what device you put on there, the mod automatically does the "ohms law" calculations to give you that wattage setting. If you need to change the wattage settings at all, it will be due to different juice characteristics, not the ohms rating of the clearo/carto or what ever....

Oh! So the circuit board figures it out itself, like a little computer. That's awesome! I can't believe I bought something I didn't understand. No wonder the hits are so consistent. T/Y !!!

 

[TomCatt]

Another way to explain it is:

If you set watts - the mod will measure the resistance of your topper and automatically adjust the voltage to generate the wattage that you set.

If you set volts - that is what you get; you can use an Ohm's Law calculator (like this one) with the volts that you set and the resistance of your topper to calculate what wattage your settings give you.