Here We Go Again! Same Old ?'s...

[jEsTer]

Hello, here is the same old damn question that all us noobs keep asking, but I can't break the streak!

Anyway I am a complete e-cig virgin, but have been spending hours pouring over all this information, to the point of complete overload... I know the answer "just friggin pick one, and go with it" but everytime I think I have my mind made up something makes me second guess. But here are my stats: I am currently a pack a day Marlboro Lights smoker. I do not care if my e-cig looks like a real cig (actually I kind prefer it doesn't). I think I want decent throat hit, and to begin would like something that tastes close to my Marlboros, but I also know that I will end up going to "flavors" eventually but getting the real cig feel will probably help me make the fulltime switch. I am a mod'er with almost everything I have, so my e-cig will end up being the same. But that being said, I value quality construction and do NOT want to have to mod just to make it do what is supposed to do out of the box... Currently I am close to power most of the time, but I do camp/dirtbike/take long Harley rides so long battery is a major plus. Size is not a big factor as long as I can fit it in a front jeans pocket. Finally cost, I am not overly concerned since I plan on keeping with this, and don't want a collection of e-cigs. I would prefer to get one that can grow with me weather that be a mod or off the shelf. Also what may end up being the deciding factor and making all this worthless, is availability. I am leaving on the 15th of this month for a trip to CO, and need to have it before then!

Sorry for such a long post, but I am hoping to get back on track to a good purchase! Thank you in advance for taking the time to even read this post, let alone try and help another FNG on his quest for the "perfect" vape...

 

[Fedor]

Here is what i recommend:

http://absolutelyecigs.com/index.php

1 x M401 starter kit
1 x USB Passthrough
10 x Atomisers
100ml to 260ml of E-Liquid (recommended flavor: Marlboro)
10-20 blank carts
2 -4 Manual Batts (either M401 or M402 size)

You should be ok for a while. When you are at a place with loud noises, change to your manual batts. The USB Passthrough is a great piece so don't forget this in your order no matter what. Atomisers are only $6 a piece when ordering 10pcs. The liquid amount you wish to order is your choice. 260ml is currently going for only $66 so you can decide if you wanna stock up.

Hope this helps.

 

[ckc]

When you get back from your trip check-out the GG, if you like Harley's this may be the thing for you, it takes 3.7 re-chargable batteries.

The GG - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

Imeo makes them and at the moment sells them himself,PM him. He's in Greece though so it wouldnt get to you before your trip.

 

[rjp44]

Nhaler is bringing out a new mod which will be much cheaper than the GG. It will be available with a variety of adapters for most of the most popular e-cigs. He also has a good variety of excellent juices with quite a few in tabacco flavors.

 

[brypauld]

I was a pack a day marlboro medium smoker....the joye 510 came recomended to me several times, so I pass the rec to you.. I ordered the 510 elite kit from nhaler. It has 2 full 510 smokes, 5 prefilled carts, 2 6ml bottles of whatever juice you want (I went with the marlbro and 555) a wall charger, a pcc (which you WILL need) and he threw in a lil case, a pair of bent nose tweezers, and a bent tip dental pick all in a nice rubbermaid like pecil box. The juices I got were high voltage 12mg...they work but feel kinda like I'm smoking a light or an ultralight cig. I am eagerly anticipating the arrival of my 6 6ml bottles of 24mg. juices in all different flavors. (hopefully here today) Anyway, I do like my 510....it has a throat hit, taste, and good vapor.. thanks for the recs everybody

 

[emus]

I have tried 3 models. Each has its own advantages.

I would start with 510 with an auto batt, a man batt and a passthru. I would buy eliq samples ranging from 12mg to 36mg. I would avoid buying a large bottle of eliq which you may not like. 510 cart works pretty good.


Myself...I prefer M401...but I tailpipe drip. The 510 is more consistent at producing strong throat hit. The M401 is lighter and smaller.

I can manage with 510 or M401. It is difficult to finish a nasty tasting eliq. It is good to have 3 or 4 batts and a passthru so you can go all day.

 

[jEsTer]

When you get back from your trip check-out the GG, if you like Harley's this may be the thing for you, it takes 3.7 re-chargable batteries.

Imeo makes them and at the moment sells them himself,PM him. He's in Greece though so it wouldnt get to you before your trip.

That is too funny, since I had already PM'd Imeo in regards to the GG Slim and whether or not I would be able to get it shipped to CA in time. I am waiting on his response right now... Would the GG Slim be a good selection for a "committed" first timer?

As to the other recommendations, I will look again at all of them again, and check the availability, as it look that is what my first e-cig purchase will boil down to, due to my desire to take one with me on my trip. Which brings up another question which I am sure has been brought up here before, but haven't found yet. What is the current situation with airline travel and e-cigs, primarily with Southwest, since that is what I will be flying. But any air travel experiences will be welcome...

Thanks again for all of your responses!

 

[jEsTer]

Oh yeah, and why the recommendation to get the auto batteries as well as manuals? Just for the realism that the auto's would provide?

 

[angjen0816]

Nhaler is bringing out a new mod which will be much cheaper than the GG. It will be available with a variety of adapters for most of the most popular e-cigs. He also has a good variety of excellent juices with quite a few in tabacco flavors.

thanks for the tip. I love Nhaler's juice. I was looking at getting a mod..now I know I will just wait it out

 

[DemonFire1337]

I use the Joye 510 and love it.
I heard manuals are the best way to go because there is no preset, and you can control how much vapor you get from a drag as opposed to automatic, and that automatic battery life isn't that good because other factors (sounds/vibrations) can make them go off by themselves.

I have no prob holding a button, been smoke free since I started vaping last week

 

[jEsTer]

I heard manuals are the best way to go because there is no preset, and you can control how much vapor you get from a drag as opposed to automatic, and that automatic battery life isn't that good because other factors (sounds/vibrations) can make them go off by themselves.

I have no prob holding a button, been smoke free since I started vaping last week

That is what I was thinking, but was wondering if there was any reason to get an automatic batt in addition to a manual, as I also have no issue with pushing a button either...

 

[Kent C]

jEsTer says:Hello, here is the same old damn question that all us noobs keep asking, but I can't break the streak!

Welcome!

I am currently a pack a day Marlboro Lights smoker. I do not care if my e-cig looks like a real cig (actually I kind prefer it doesn't).

See below...

I think I want decent throat hit, and to begin would like something that tastes close to my Marlboros, but I also know that I will end up going to "flavors" eventually but getting the real cig feel will probably help me make the fulltime switch.

It would seem like that but, actually performance is what makes one switch. If it acts like a cigarette, that's what does it. "Looks", unfortunately for some that have that consideration, has ended up being a suckers play for many. Fortunately, you dismissed that.

I am a mod'er with almost everything I have, so my e-cig will end up being the same. But that being said, I value quality construction and do NOT want to have to mod just to make it do what is supposed to do out of the box...

Good point really. They should stand on their own rather than being a 'solution to a problem'.

Currently I am close to power most of the time, but I do camp/dirtbike/take long Harley rides so long battery is a major plus.

Again, see below....

Size is not a big factor as long as I can fit it in a front jeans pocket. Finally cost, I am not overly concerned since I plan on keeping with this, and don't want a collection of e-cigs. I would prefer to get one that can grow with me weather that be a mod or off the shelf. Also what may end up being the deciding factor and making all this worthless, is availability. I am leaving on the 15th of this month for a trip to CO, and need to have it before then!

[/quote]

With what you've said I'd say go right to this:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-whoa-nellie-new-vaping-toy-4.html#post657598

510, 901, 801 Box Mods
cybervex@gmail.com


The 'bartleby' which is a mod'ed nicostick and it adds some features that you'll like. It has an on/off switch so when you put it in a pocket you can't accidently press the button. And it has a mini usb port to be used as a passthrough - ie with a charging cord (not provided);

Amazon.com: Cables To Go - 27005 - 2M USB 2.0 A/Mini-B Cable (Black): Electronics

... you can hook it up to a usb wall plug or a car plug:


Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store.
top 2...

... which you could use on your bike.

Only thing is that the box mod doesn't come with an atomizer or cartridge, so.... highly suggest getting 510 starting kit anyway:

Joye 510 NO BOX

cheapest no box kit and fast shipping. You can use the attys and carts on the mod above.

Also while you're there get some juice:

Suggest:
ECOpure juice

Ecopure enhances vapor. Rich is good by itself or mixed with:

PG:
Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store.
Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store.
VG:
Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store.

Get a small bottle of 24mg of something just in case you aren't getting enough nic. You might only need a drop or two on a top off. But it might keep you from buying cigs.

 

[Reboot]

^ HOLY DETAILED POST BATMAN!!

I've only tried a few, both from NHaler.com, but the tobacco flavors don't taste much like tobacco to me. My RY4 juice tastes like sugar or cotton candy and my Nhaler Marlbro juice tastes like grape. I like to use the RY4 to sweeten up my coffee flavor

But then, maybe that's just my messed up, burnt out taste buds.

 

[jEsTer]

The 'bartleby' which is a mod'ed nicostick and it adds some features that you'll like. It has an on/off switch so when you put it in a pocket you can't accidently press the button. And it has a mini usb port to be used as a passthrough - ie with a charging cord (not provided);

top 2...

... which you could use on your bike.

Only thing is that the box mod doesn't come with an atomizer or cartridge, so.... highly suggest getting 510 starting kit anyway:


cheapest no box kit and fast shipping. You can use the attys and carts on the mod above.

Get a small bottle of 24mg of something just in case you aren't getting enough nic. You might only need a drop or two on a top off. But it might keep you from buying cigs.

Whoa! Kent, thank you for an extremely helpful and detailed response! The Bartleby looks like it would suit me perfectly! Unfortunately I think Cybervex is having battery delays and might not be able to meet my Nov 15th deadline. So I might need to go ahead and get a 510 kit as well. I guess I can look at it as having a "backup" although I am trying to avoid having a collection of e-cigs like so many on here have... As for using it on the bike, I have to install a cigarette lighter, but it wouldn't hurt to have a 12v accessory hookup. And finally, any advice on the "24mg of something"? the descriptions on the site aren't very descriptive...

Once again thanks for all help!

-Brad-

 

[Kent C]

Whoa! Kent, thank you for an extremely helpful and detailed response! The Bartleby looks like it would suit me perfectly! Unfortunately I think Cybervex is having battery delays and might not be able to meet my Nov 15th deadline. So I might need to go ahead and get a 510 kit as well. I guess I can look at it as having a "backup" although I am trying to avoid having a collection of e-cigs like so many on here have... As for using it on the bike, I have to install a cigarette lighter, but it wouldn't hurt to have a 12v accessory hookup. And finally, any advice on the "24mg of something"? the descriptions on the site aren't very descriptive...

Once again thanks for all help!

-Brad-

Welcome. The bartleby does meet many of your considerations and it is a good performing mod. As for the cig lighter - with a 900mAh batt you really wouldn't need one - I get a day and a half from one charge but I'm vaping other stuff as well, but it would go a day, imo.

As for the '24mg of something' we're talking 'tastes' and that's so subjective and varies from one person to another that unless we already knew a flavor we both agreed on, (ie giving some indication we're tasting the same thing) then suggestions are crapshoots. I'll just say that the main tobacco based stuff is pretty good. See this post for what I get from the standard tobacco flavors:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...lavour-recommendations-please.html#post700068

 

[emus]

Oh yeah, and why the recommendation to get the auto batteries as well as manuals? Just for the realism that the auto's would provide?

Just to experience both.

I prefer auto. I'm just to lazy to always have to push the button. Many prefer manual.

 

[jEsTer]

Well due to my time constraints, and the sage advice received from this site, I ordered a 510 from Cignot. I also some empty carts as well as rich, Menthol, and Mango in 5ml and 20 and 25mg nicotine. So I will have this to play with, and then when I get back I can see if I want anything different. I will do some searching, but does anyone know if there is a DIY external battery charger setup for the 510? I have an iPower Pro Po-Go battery pack that I use for powering/charging all my electronic devices due to the numerous adapter tips that come with the device. So I am hoping I will be able to use this for my new (as soon as I get my order) e-cig habit...

Kent, once I get some experience under my belt we can revisit my earlier post.

Thanks!

-Brad-

 

[emus]

My 510 charger accepts 12-24VDC input as well as 100-240VAC. Many possibilities.

 

[Kent C]

Well due to my time constraints, and the sage advice received from this site, I ordered a 510 from Cignot. I also some empty carts as well as rich, Menthol, and Mango in 5ml and 20 and 25mg nicotine. So I will have this to play with, and then when I get back I can see if I want anything different. I will do some searching, but does anyone know if there is a DIY external battery charger setup for the 510? I have an iPower Pro Po-Go battery pack that I use for powering/charging all my electronic devices due to the numerous adapter tips that come with the device. So I am hoping I will be able to use this for my new (as soon as I get my order) e-cig habit...

Kent, once I get some experience under my belt we can revisit my earlier post.

Sure, Brad, feel free to PM me on any questions. If there's a usb port on the batt pack, you'll need a passthrough to be able to vape off of it. Output has to be 5Volt and preferably 1amp but 800ma will do.

You can get a passthrough at many places. Here's some that could ship quick:

510 Passthrough

freshsmoking.com too but they are under a change to credit cards not finished yet.
Hmmm. RockyMt.Vapors is out of stock.

Anyway, using this:

Joye 510 USB Charger

...you could charge a 510 battery from the batt pack or any usb port including the wall plug and car plug linked in my first note.

 

[jEsTer]

Sure, Brad, feel free to PM me on any questions. If there's a usb port on the batt pack, you'll need a passthrough to be able to vape off of it. Output has to be 5Volt and preferably 1amp but 800ma will do.

...you could charge a 510 battery from the batt pack or any usb port including the wall plug and car plug linked in my first note.

Yes my PO-GO battery does have a 5v USB out, so the passthrough would be ideal. I was just hoping there was a DIY method. I am a bit of modder/hacker/techie at heart, and hate paying a premium for something I could build myself. But if the 510 uses a proprietary power input then I guess I have no choice...