Here's why the FDA is doing this?

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greenie

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I would like to just stop here and say, This is a great post and deserves a repeat.

Why does government believe that touting our health and welfare are still plausible excuses for anything they do anymore?

Why? Because we keep on believing it!

We live in a nation of sleepwalking zombies who still cling to the notion that America is a benevolent democracy (which it never was), or a free republic (which it hasn't been for a very long time). Our system, in its present state is an Oligarchy. Which means; those who have the money make the laws.

Politicians don't run the show, they just push the buttons. So-called public health agencies are bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical industry. In 2005, the top 10 pharmaceutical manufacturers reaped more profit than the other 490 companies in the Fortune 500 COMBINED!

What kind of influence do you think that kind of money buys?

Do you ever wonder why you keep hearing more and more about prescription drugs being pulled off the market for causing DEATH or PERMANENT INJURY?? Where were the FDA's stringent testing standards in those cases?? It used to be, the only time you ever heard about someone dying from taking a pharmaceutical was if someone tampered with the Tylenol... At least then, you heard about it in the media... But now, the media's all bought and paid for too...

We all laugh and make jokes about the long list of side-effects that every pharmaceutical comes with these days, but has anyone noticed that the side effects keep getting worse and worse? Of course not... We've all been desensitized... We're not paying attention anymore. Not only are doctors over-medicating depression patients, but now, if that doesn't make you happy enough, we have anti-depressants to take on top of whatever anti-depressant you're already taking! Sure, it might kill you, but at least you'll die happy?

Do you ever wonder why the last time anyone came up with a CURE for anything was back in the days of Polio?? Is it because we've cured all the diseases that could possibly be cured? No, it's because there's no money in cures... If you cure somebody, you're not gonna get any more of their money... all the money's in TREATMENT... And these treatments create other conditions that need to be treated as well. But that's not enough either... Now we have treatments for problems that weren't even problems ten years ago! They're not even diseases... They're either inconveniences, or totally frickin' IMAGINARY. Sometimes I swear the pharmaceutical companies come up with the drug first, then try to invent a reason to take it.

We're all living in a freakin' Aldous Huxley novel, and no one seems to realize it! And the pharmaceutical companies all thank Ford as they jerk each other off for doing such a swell job of selling us their soma and making idiot Deltas out of all of us...

While we all smile, and take their stoopid pills, grateful that we're not like the Alphas and don't have to think too much... Thankful that we live in a country where we can be free to buy our cheap crap at Wal Mart, and continue our endless pursuit of distraction... Comforted by the belief that the people who are trying to take our happiness away by showing us how the world really works, are just a bunch of kooks and crackpots. All the while, oblivious to the fact that our ability and right to think for ourselves is either being denied or disabled.

Sorry about the rant (I didn't even really scratch the surface, actually)... I'm sure I'm probably preaching to choir for most of the folks around here, but there's still a lot of folks like the OP who need to WAKE UP.
 

warp1900

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We have an entire administration now under Chicago style politics. Lots of money flowing under the table.

Yeah, it is this administration that makes money flow under the table, non other has.

When will we all understand that there is nothing new being done today and it has been ongoing for centuries around the globe?

I am sorry but your statement is naive at best, bottom line is, you can believe all you want that you live in a Democracy, but the truth is every single practice of any type of "governance", is basically in the end, the same.

We can go as far back as when there were "kingdoms" and they functioned exactly the same, a minority of wealthy-powerful people controlling and using the rest of the population for their benefit. (Oligarchy)

Call it whatever you want, Democracy, Socialism, Communism, Dictatorship, etc, etc.

The real difference between now and then is that more people are being brain washed to actually believe they live in a more "fair" system.

Perfecting the "zombies" is always the ultimate goal to keep the system oiled and running, they can't allow people to have time or education to think because those will become "enemies" of the system.
So you thought the "crisis" is happening because the real estate market collapsed or/and the banks went broke?

Think again...


P.S. The OP obviously has an agenda which is to defend his "profession" and prove it is ultimately noble. (I am not arguing that point, it would take several pages to be able to do so.)

It is clear that when Mossman posted, he immediately jumped on him in a very rude-bossy way and with ridiculously supported information.

Using CNN Money, WSJ, Fortune 500 as reference of truthful information is like leaving your kids with a registered sex offender and trusting he will not do any harm to them.


"Making believe" is the name of the game.



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warp1900

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_EDIT_/ ADD ON_

I forgot that the OP is also a name dropper commonly seen from people that are unsure about themselves or their PROFESSION.

As far as I'm concerned, you can come from the University of the Federation of Galaxies, that does not prove anything.

QUOTE:

"And I am awake, also I'm a Summa Cum Laude Graduate of the oldest and one of the top Pharmacy Schools in the country. Before you go bashing someone elses profession/intelligence, you may want actually find out an iota about what your bashing. Also, cut the Alex Jones/ Bilderberg Group/ Brave New World conspiracy crap, if anyone wants to rant that 9/11 truther stuff , an e-cig forum is not the place."

Don't worry, most professions are the same, (including mine), it's not only yours and Mossman NEVER bashed either yours or any other.
You are paranoid.

The only crap in this thread is the one you posted Markarich.



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chad

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Perfecting the "zombies" is always the ultimate goal to keep the system oiled and running, they can't allow people to have time or education to think because those will become "enemies" of the system.
So you thought the "crisis" is happening because the real estate market collapsed or/and the banks went broke?

Think again...

One for the sad but true file. We are the perfect zombies. Every time someone says "Oh my god, look over there, it's a crisis!!" we fall for it hook line and sinker - never once paying attention to what's happening when our attention's diverted.

Zombies.

Yeah, we are. Fat, happy, selfish, and ignorant at what atrocities people have committed throughout history for far less power and money than what's at stake today.

The greatest trick is that we've all been utterly convinced that our "elected" governments have our interests at heart and those things that have happened throughout history could never happen now - we're far too civilized after all - it could never happen here.

Zombies.

The whole thing doesn't have to crash down. It can be dismantled with every small chip off the block. And that works both ways.
 

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Yeah, it is this administration that makes money flow under the table, non other has.

When will we all understand that there is nothing new being done today and it has been ongoing for centuries around the globe?

I am sorry but your statement is naive at best, bottom line is, you can believe all you want that you live in a Democracy, but the truth is every single practice of any type of "governance", is basically in the end, the same.

We can go as far back as when there were "kingdoms" and they functioned exactly the same, a minority of wealthy-powerful people controlling and using the rest of the population for their benefit. (Oligarchy)

Call it whatever you want, Democracy, Socialism, Communism, Dictatorship, etc, etc.

The real difference between now and then is that more people are being brain washed to actually believe they live in a more "fair" system.

Perfecting the "zombies" is always the ultimate goal to keep the system oiled and running, they can't allow people to have time or education to think because those will become "enemies" of the system.
So you thought the "crisis" is happening because the real estate market collapsed or/and the banks went broke?

Think again...


P.S. The OP obviously has an agenda which is to defend his "profession" and prove it is ultimately noble. (I am not arguing that point, it would take several pages to be able to do so.)

It is clear that when Mossman posted, he immediately jumped on him in a very rude-bossy way and with ridiculously supported information.

Using CNN Money, WSJ, Fortune 500 as reference of truthful information is like leaving your kids with a registered sex offender and trusting he will not do any harm to them.


"Making believe" is the name of the game.



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So the veracity of the Wall Street Journal, Fortune 500 etc... is analogous to a sex offender, Huh?. What other supporting reference would you go to when your talking about Fortune 500 companies????? And Mossman's info was incorrect as I linked(notice he had no link to back his stats). I have no idea who Mossman is, so don't insinuate I have a vendetta against the guy, the info he stated was false, that simple. And if you want to talk about Pharmacy being a noble profession, your absolutely right. It always ranks near the top of the yearly Gallup poll as one of the most trusted professions(as a matter of fact, for several years, it was #1-and you can check that at Gallup.com). My intention starting this thread was to start a dialogue and to show that there are always multiple perceptions to any issue. I've said, time and time and time again that I don't necessarily agree with what the FDA is doing or how they are handling this situation. And one final thing, don't ever entwine the profession of Pharmacy and FDA, as if we're the same entity. The FDA is one of several Federal, State and Local government agencies(including but not limited to, the DEA, FTC, State Pharmacy Board, State Bureau of Professional & Occupational Affairs, State Department of Revenue, Municipal Business Licensing Dept. etc...) that my profession, unfortunately, is regulated by. Your argument is tantamount to saying," All farmers are bad because they are regulated by the Department of Agriculture, and I hate those .......s at the Department of Agriculture, so the farmers must be .......s too." If you have something relevant to add then say it, but please refrain from disparaging anyone's profession while your saying it.
 

markarich159

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I would like to just stop here and say, This is a great post and deserves a repeat.

This is gonna be my final post then hopefully this thread will be closed and this "conspiracy theory" nonsense will end, but how is plagarizing Aldous Huxley's Brave New World indicative of a "great post" in need of a repeat. This is not insightful new thought, it is a trite rehashing of political fringe ideas that has been around since the the 30's(actually since the teens). Not everybody is out to get you. There's not a Gestapo behind every door. Corporations(although some are questionable) are not all the devil. And finally, if YOU were in power, I guarantee you, you would be doing the EXACT SAME THING as the "shadow-government" that's gonna get ya. It's how it has always been, it's how it will always be, and in spite of it, we still have the unbelievably improbable good fortune to live in the best, most opportunity filled country that has ever existed.
 
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