Hey guys, I really need some advice! (New Member)

[Two_Bears]

Thank you to everyone who replied! Especially for clearing up the compatibility between the Battery, Charger and Subbox! You guys and gals really know your stuff! I'm going to contact Certified Juices about this and find out for sure. In the meantime, I didn't sleep last night at all and I think it was due to the 12mg nicotine juice I mentioned. I read up on it today after coming home from work early (I just was in a daze with no sleep) and apparently Nicotine can keep you up at night because well as we all should know it's a stimulant.

I was smoking about 5 to 7 cigs a day, did I choose the right dose? I'm thinking of mixing it with another non nicotine juice because I honestly think it's too strong. It's like 2 or 3 mouth to lung drags of my Ego One Mega, and I feel as If I just chained smoked 2 cigarettes in less than 30 seconds or so! I understand everyone is different but is it normal to get this kind of a headrush? As I said yesterday was the first time I bought and tried nicotine juice and I think after this, I'm going to drop it down to 6mg. The throat hit is also much harsher and as I mentioned before, the non nicotine version of this juice tasted so much better.. almost a night and day difference. When you guys first got into vaping, did you experience this as well?

The other thing that concerns me of course is nicotine overdose. Not that I'm concerned because I know by body, how I feel and simply stop when I don't like how I'm feeling, but I am concerned for people new to vaping as well as my uncle who I plan on getting an unregulated one button mod like an Ego One, Ijust2, Evod or that Wismec Venti. When it comes to my uncle.. he would be intimidated by anything tech and to be honest I don't even know if he's going to take to just filling the juice and changing the CLR coils.

@HighPlainsPuffer I'm over in the San Fernando Valley bud! That's La County. Wish you were closer, I would love to check out some stuff!

Since you were smoking that few cigarettes you should be vaping 6 mg. If you go sub ohm 3mg nic may be all you need.

 

[Two_Bears]

You are going to get a million different opinions in here. LOL

I think picking the Subox/Kbox mini kit is a perfect choice. It's not complex, but it's a complete kit with advanced vaping. You can use it as a beginner or an advanced user.

It looks like all your questions have been answered so good luck.

That's exactly why I recommended against another Ego One. I wanted him to get a piece of gear that he would not outgrow in a month or two.

 

[CasketWeaver]

Can't say I really agree with this. If your mod only gives you the option to set down to the tenth of a volt(0.1v), you are jumping over a small range in wattage. If you have a 0.3 ohm coil on there and go from 3.5v to 3.6v, you have gone from 40.8 watts straight to 43.2 watts. If you have a mod that lets you go in tenths of a watt(which is the range most allow you to adjust in), you can go any of the areas in between that range, meaning you have much more fine tuning. Even with a mod that can only adjust in 0.5 watt increments, you still have 41w, 41.5w, 42w, 42.5w, and 43w in there you can use. Even if we rule out 41w and 43w as being close enough to the 40.8 and 43.2, you are still left with some other options that the voltage just won't let you get at the tenth of a volt.

Even if you are able to adjust to the hundredth of a volt(0.01v) on the same coil, 3.5 to 3.51, you have still gone from 40.8 watts to 41.1 watts. If you have a mod that adjusts to the tenth of the watt, you still have finer tuning in between there. Granted, it is splitting hairs at that point, but variable wattage typically gives you the ability to fine tune the power a little more than variable voltage

That's where the manual vs automatic transmission analogy comes in. In VV mode (manual transmission) you set your volts where you feel is more comfortable to you - with or without knowing (most of the time without knowing) what the wattage is at that point. Whereas VW mode (automatic transmission) - you set the POWER and it adjusts the voltage for you - automatically at that set resistance (most of the time KNOWN voltage). We can rule it out one way or another but in my past experiences and I'm not alone here - I found myself CONSTANTLY adjusting voltage on my VV devices (fine tuning) whereas I usually pick a wattage and stick with it. Granted I adjust my wattage to fit the atomizer I'm firing against but I rarely adjust past that. And although I have my specific ranges (outside of TC) of 3.7 - 5.0V - most of the time when adjusting in power mode, I usually get some really odd results. IE - on one of my atty's adjusting in .1 watt increments sometimes adjust the voltage in .08 volt increments. That's just the way that build is so it's not necessarily fine tuning at that point because I may only be able to get CLOSE (but still within ACCEPTABLE range for me) to the voltage range I'm looking for. Whereas I can literally look down at the voltage on my VV / VW mod and pick my voltage (in .1 volt increments) and dial in SPECIFICALLY what I'm looking for within my voltage range.

Within TC my voltage range doesn't apply as much here. But I prefer my output to be anywhere from 2.5 - 3.5V on Ni200 and 3.0 - 4.0V on Ti01 / 02.

 

[Two_Bears]

That's where the manual vs automatic transmission analogy comes in. In VV mode (manual transmission) you set your volts where you feel is more comfortable to you - with or without knowing (most of the time without knowing) what the wattage is at that point. Whereas VW mode (automatic transmission) - you set the POWER and it adjusts the voltage for you - automatically at that set resistance (most of the time KNOWN voltage). We can rule it out one way or another but in my past experiences and I'm not alone here - I found myself CONSTANTLY adjusting voltage on my VV devices (fine tuning) whereas I usually pick a wattage and stick with it. Granted I adjust my wattage to fit the atomizer I'm firing against but I rarely adjust past that. And although I have my specific ranges (outside of TC) of 3.7 - 5.0V - most of the time when adjusting in power mode, I usually get some really odd results. IE - on one of my atty's adjusting in .1 watt increments sometimes adjust the voltage in .08 volt increments. That's just the way that build is so it's not necessarily fine tuning at that point because I may only be able to get CLOSE (but still within ACCEPTABLE range for me) to the voltage range I'm looking for. Whereas I can literally look down at the voltage on my VV / VW mod and pick my voltage (in .1 volt increments) and dial in SPECIFICALLY what I'm looking for within my voltage range.

Within TC my voltage range doesn't apply as much here. But I prefer my output to be anywhere from 2.5 - 3.5V on Ni200 and 3.0 - 4.0V on Ti01 / 02.

My mod is set to 12.5 watts. Using a single coil.

The resistance is .88 ohms, and using 3.31 volts to create 12.5 watts

 

[Tol]

Running 0.74 ohm dual coil @ 35 watts right now using 5.09 volts to get that. Currently my go to setup when not driving since I have turned myself into a dripping addict. Lol. Once you find something that works for you, it gets easier to target hardware to experiment with and fine tune.

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[Just Want To Quit]

Since you were smoking that few cigarettes you should be vaping 6 mg. If you go sub ohm 3mg nic may be all you need.

This is exactly what I know now. Especially after not sleeping. In the meantime I mixed my Certified 365 (butterscotch and vanilla custard) with my Jungle Fever (mango/pineapple) half/half and while it's a little bit of a strange flavor, at least I'm not getting such a strong head buzz and throat hit. I actually think I feel more irritation with the throat hit from nicotine than I do with Zero.

Of course I'm still new to this and am going to experiment some more for sure.

That's exactly why I recommended against another Ego One. I wanted him to get a piece of gear that he would not outgrow in a month or two.

I think that was great advice actually. My Ego One Mega is soon going to be my going out on the town / stealth vape and will become my back up unit. Probably using the Subbox Mini exclusively at home more than likely.

Still though, I'm looking forward to that larger tank and having regulated wattage for a change! Not to mention being able to dial in my sweet spot and save money on premade OCC coils once I get the hang of the RBA.

 

[Two_Bears]

(butterscotch and vanilla custard) with my Jungle Fever (mango/pineapple) half/half and while it's a little bit of a strange

I bet.

flavor, at least I'm not getting such a strong head buzz and throat hit. I actually think I feel more irritation with the throat hit from nicotine than I do with Zero.

Glad you got the correct amount of nicotine.

I think that was great advice actually. My Ego One Mega is soon going to be my going out on the town / stealth vape and will become my back up unit. Probably using the Subbox Mini exclusively at home more than likely.

In the beginning I didn't think you liked me very much.

till though, I'm looking forward to that larger tank and having regulated wattage for a change! Not to mention being able to dial in my sweet spot and save money on premade OCC coils once I get the hang of the RBA.

I really enjoy building my RTA. I have built 1.8 ohms down to.54. To me Vapes at .8-1 ohms gives me a tssty satisfying vape.

 

[Just Want To Quit]

@Two_Bears

I actually still don't have the juice right. I had a 30 mil container and mixed half/half with the non nicotine. I should be around 6. I really need to get a 3mg of something I really like. I've only tried maybe 5 different flavors and a few a vape shop owner dripped for me to try. I'm reading through the Ejuice forum right now as I really need to find out what the more popular juices are and the cheapest place to get them.

Let me know where you buy your juice at. I've never tried any of the cereals, candies or cola flavors either yet. But I'm really looking for something pure pinapple or pineapple/mango.. anything with citrus tones.

Oh and no, I never disliked you man. If anything I've learned more from you and @CasketWeaver on these forums than anyone.

 

[Two_Bears]

@Two_Bears

I actually still don't have the juice right. I had a 30 mil container and mixed half/half with the non nicotine. I should be around 6. I really need to get a 3mg of something I really like. I've only tried maybe 5 different flavors and a few a vape shop owner dripped for me to try. I'm reading through the Ejuice forum right now as I really need to find out what the more popular juices are and the cheapest place to get them.

Let me know where you buy your juice at. I've never tried any of the cereals, candies or cola flavors either yet. But I'm really looking for something pure pinapple or pineapple/mango.. anything with citrus tones.

Oh and no, I never disliked you man. If anything I've learned more from you and @CasketWeaver on these forums than anyone.

In the beginning I bought my ejuices at a local vape shop: then I started buying flavors and nicotine online then making my own ejuice

 

[Just Want To Quit]

In the beginning I bought my ejuices at a local vape shop: then I started buying flavors and nicotine online then making my own ejuice

If I'm still vaping by the end of 16 and If I find the cost of juice too much I might look into this. In the meantime, My Sub box is coming today! As soon as it gets here, I'm going out to the local vape shop and picking up some new juice. As I stand right now I have about half of my zero nic Certified bottle left and half of my 12mg Jungle fever left. So since I've kind of determined that the 12 is too high (I'm getting jittery to the point as if I drank 4 or 5 cups of coffee) I'm not sure if I should get a bottle of 6mg and/or a bottle of 3mg... or get a bottle of 6 and 3mg and two bottles of 0 nicotine of the same flavor if possible.

I know you said you think 3mg might be what I need, but I'm still going to try out the 1.5ohm coil to see just how much it conserves juice and if I can get a satisfying vape from it. I'll be honest, I wasn't very fond of the tight draw of the Joytech CL 1.0ohm coil on my Ego One Mega.. so chances are I'm going to stick with the 0.5 ohm more than likely.

I'm honestly thinking of using my Ego One Mega Tank with 0 nicotine juice for the evenings after 9pm and using the Sub box for my nicotine fix during the day.

In the meantime, If anyone else could chime in and let me know what they would recommend me do as far as juice goes.. I'd really appreciate a reply soon as I'm going to leave the house as soon as my Sub box arrives in the next hour or two.

 

[haleysdadda]

If I'm still vaping by the end of 16 and If I find the cost of juice too much I might look into this. In the meantime, My Sub box is coming today! As soon as it gets here, I'm going out to the local vape shop and picking up some new juice. As I stand right now I have about half of my zero nic Certified bottle left and half of my 12mg Jungle fever left. So since I've kind of determined that the 12 is too high (I'm getting jittery to the point as if I drank 4 or 5 cups of coffee) I'm not sure if I should get a bottle of 6mg and/or a bottle of 3mg... or get a bottle of 6 and 3mg and two bottles of 0 nicotine of the same flavor if possible.

I know you said you think 3mg might be what I need, but I'm still going to try out the 1.5ohm coil to see just how much it conserves juice and if I can get a satisfying vape from it. I'll be honest, I wasn't very fond of the tight draw of the Joytech CL 1.0ohm coil on my Ego One Mega.. so chances are I'm going to stick with the 0.5 ohm more than likely.

I'm honestly thinking of using my Ego One Mega Tank with 0 nicotine juice for the evenings after 9pm and using the Sub box for my nicotine fix during the day.

In the meantime, If anyone else could chime in and let me know what they would recommend me do as far as juice goes.. I'd really appreciate a reply soon as I'm going to leave the house as soon as my Sub box arrives in the next hour or two.

Go to your local B&M they should have samplers of the juices they have/make pick a couple and figure out your fav flavor profile then search online for a similar profile.

 

[Just Want To Quit]

Go to your local B&M they should have samplers of the juices they have/make pick a couple and figure out your fav flavor profile then search online for a similar profile.

Thank you I'm going to do just that. There is a little place out here called Darth Vapor.. I've gotten pretty tight with the shop owner and he has no problem with me in there trying out drippers and well.. just talking about Star Wars and Vapes all day. Really cool guy.. I'm on my way over there now.

P.S. That's one adorable little baby you got there!

 

[haleysdadda]

Thank you I'm going to do just that. There is a little place out here called Darth Vapor.. I've gotten pretty tight with the shop owner and he has no problem with me in there trying out drippers and well.. just talking about Star Wars and Vapes all day. Really cool guy.. I'm on my way over there now.

P.S. That's one adorable little baby you got there!

That's my grandson Jackson!

 

[Just Want To Quit]

That's my grandson Jackson!

Nice!

So i got my Subox and I love it. However the 6mg juice is still to strong for me I think. It's ok though, I bought 4 15ml bottles of Swamp Thing (Apple Jolly Rancher 85/15 Vg/pg mix). I have yet to try the 3mg. I need to use up this tank first.

1 6mg bottle
2 3mg bottles
1 3mg bottle

With the 7ml's or so of my zero nic Certified 365 juice and that full bottle of zero nic Swamp Thing I sort of covered my .... sort of speak! Now my plan is to use the 5.0ohm coil up first, then try the 1.5. After that I'll be attempting my first wicking with the RDA.

Now I do have a question, there are different ranges printed on the coils and the card that comes with the kit. Since this is a typo on one or the other.. What one do I trust? What's engraved on the coils or the card?

Also someone at the vape shop told me there was a sample pack of flavors that a certain company puts out where they gather all the top shelf brands and flavors and put it all together in some kind of gift box for you? He said there was a video of on youtube but didn't what channel it was. Has anyone heard of this sample pack?

Thanks guys.

 

[Two_Bears]

Nice!

So i got my Subox and I love it. However the 6mg juice is still to strong for me I think. It's ok though, I bought 4 15ml bottles of Swamp Thing (Apple Jolly Rancher 85/15 Vg/pg mix). I have yet to try the 3mg. I need to use up this tank first.

1 6mg bottle
2 3mg bottles
1 3mg bottle

With the 7ml's or so of my zero nic Certified 365 juice and that full bottle of zero nic Swamp Thing I sort of covered my .... sort of speak! Now my plan is to use the 5.0ohm coil up first, then try the 1.5. After that I'll be attempting my first wicking with the RDA.

Now I do have a question, there are different ranges printed on the coils and the card that comes with the kit. Since this is a typo on one or the other.. What one do I trust? What's engraved on the coils or the card?

Also someone at the vape shop told me there was a sample pack of flavors that a certain company puts out where they gather all the top shelf brands and flavors and put it all together in some kind of gift box for you? He said there was a video of on youtube but didn't what channel it was. Has anyone heard of this sample pack?

Thanks guys.

Glad you like the Subox starter kit.

You said there was a discrepancy between the info on the intro card and the data on the coil heads. I would tend to go with the data on the coil head..

No matter which you go with afjust sloely because burned cotton is nastyy.

 

[Just Want To Quit]

Glad you like the Subox starter kit.

You said there was a discrepancy between the info on the intro card and the data on the coil heads. I would tend to go with the data on the coil head..

No matter which you go with afjust sloely because burned cotton is nastyy.

That's what I would assume as well.

I'm looking for a stand for my Subox. I did a quick online search and found this stand that looked like a spider for the Subox. But there was no website to purchase it.. only to dl it or something? I'll have to take another look. If you happened to have heard of one out there please let me know. In the meantime I'll get on it myself and get a tank band or something.

Also is it ok to swap my Ego One Mega Tank to my Subox? It uses 1.0 and 0.5 coils after all. Would having VW and using the Ego One Mega Tank on the subox cause any compatibility issues? They are both 22mm in diameter after all. And.. out of curiosity, can I throw my Subtank on My Ego One mod? I care more about the former than the latter option here of course!

I don't understand why the Ohms is showing 0.6 for that OCC 0.5 that came preinstalled and for some reason the unit doesn't always turn off and on in 5 clicks, 6 seems to do it. Maybe I'm clicking the power too fast or too slow. I'll see what I can find out.

I know you probably think I'm crazy why I didn't just go straight to the RBA and wick it right? LOL I know, I know.. I'm going to get to it after I run through the 1.5OCC. I'm saving the best for last apparently.

Oh and one last thing.. people on youtube are saying this thing fires down to 0.3, yet I'm seeing a 0.2ohm OCC coil at sweetvapes? Do they even make a 0.3ohm OCC coil? Doesn't look like it from their website.

Anyhow taste is better than my Ego One Mega for sure. I'm going to start a Zamplebox subscription tomorrow as well try to get to 0 nicotine as quickly as I can.

 

[Two_Bears]

Also is it ok to swap my Ego One Mega Tank to my Subox? It uses 1.0 and 0.5 coils after all. Would having VW and using the Ego One Mega Tank on the subox cause any compatibility issues? They are both 22mm

NO WORRIES. The Subox will read the resistance every time you put a tank on there and fire it correctly. Most new mods can fire anything from .3-3.0 ohms.

Both tanks have standard 510 threads.

No problem at all.

If the coil was.11 ohms the Subox will just give the warning "resistance too low"


in diameter after all. And.. out of curiosity, can I throw my Subtank on My Ego One mod? I care more about the former than the latter option here of course!

I have never used an ego 1 but .5 ohms may be too los for the Ego One battery. Is you were using the 1.2 ohm coil the battery for the Ego One would not have any problem at all

I don't understand why the Ohms is showing 0.6 for that OCC 0.5 that came preinstalled and for some reason the unit doesn't always turn off and on in 5 clicks, 6

As the coil heats up the ohms will go up as gunk collects on the coil the ohms will go up.

As long as the coil doesn't have big swings such as .5 to 1.0 or .5 to .2 it's good.

When you see big swings you have a coil that has come loose or about to fail.

know you probably think I'm crazy why I didn't just go straight to the RBA and wick it right? LOL I know, I know.. I'm going to get to it after I run through the 1.5OCC. I'm saving the best for last apparently.

I would recommend getting a few OCC heads because you never know when you need a vape and can't or won't take the time to wrap a coil. The last thing we want is for you to reach for a cigarette and undo all the good you have done

You may want to wrap a few extra coils and wick them so installing a cewy coil in the RBA will be almost as fast as screwing in a new OCC head.

Oh and one last thing.. people on youtube are saying this thing fires down to 0.3, yet I'm seeing a 0.2ohm OCC coil at sweetvapes? Do they even make a 0.3ohm OCC coil? Doesn't look like it from their website.

I would bet the .2 ohms at sweet Vapes is a typo. .3 is pretty standard. The istick40tc and Coolfire4 also fires down to .3

nyhow taste is better than my Ego One Mega for sure. I'm going to start a Zamplebox subscription tomorrow as well try to get to 0 nicotine as quickly as I can.

zamplebox is an easy way to try different flavors. I would go with small 10 or 15 ml bottles just in case you get some flavors you can't stand.

I will be vaping 0 njc in another 2-3 weeks YAY!!!!![/QUOTE]

 

[Just Want To Quit]

I have never used an ego 1 but .5 ohms may be too los for the Ego One battery. Is you were using the 1.2 ohm coil the battery for the Ego One would not have any problem at all

First off, thanks for all that info man, I really appreciate it. I just wanted to clarify that the Ego One is sub ohm with a 0.5 coil. I tested it out yesterday and it works perfectly. Only thing is, I looks goofy on the Kbox mini.

For the Zample box I decided on the middle option. Not only can you cancel anytime with them, but they also let you skip a month as well. I also asked them If I can switch subscription plans if I find out that I'm receiving too much or two little juice to go through in a month or two, but I haven't heard back from them yet. I think It might also be a good idea to buy another tank since I'll be trying out all these new juices. When it comes to changes juices.. all I've ever done is just clean the tank with hot water and rinse, try to shake out the remaining juice and prime it with the new juice. Do you think the amount of residual juice on the coil is enough to disturb the flavor of a new juice? Personally I've never noticed it but if there is something else to do with the coil besides obviously just priming it let me know.

Just wanted to mention that my Kbox Mini doesn't always turn off on the fly. Half the time it takes 6 clicks to turn off and on.. or maybe it just touchy because I'm either clicking it too fast or two slow. I'll be observant next time and I'm sure I'll narrow it down.

Also the battery indicator fluctuates a lot between 1 meter of battery life. I need to find out if this is normal or not. Trying to find a good stand still but can't find anything. I ordered a few tank bands in the meantime.

Congrats on the zero nicotine in a couple of weeks. To be honest, I have the same brand and flavor in both tanks (Ego One Mega tank has the 0mg while the 3mg is in my subtank mini) and even with 3mg it affects the flavor BIGTIME Imo. The Jungle Fever juice was a night and day difference in flavor between the 0 and 3mg nicotine. LOL I just want to decide whether or not I actually even need the nicotine. Especially before I start up with Zamplebox.

Oh and yes, I got extra OCC coils, I covered everything with my first purchase.

 

[Tol]

Depending on the flavor you can have some really funky tastes for a short time when changing. If the previous one is really strong it can take a bit to get rid of. Cinnamon is a tough one to get rid of typically, same with things like clove or mint. Sometimes you get some really enjoyable flavor combos when changing. Not much else to do with prebuilt coils than what you are already doing. If you get into rebuilding, you can remove the wicks and dry burn then re-wick if it is bad, most of the time it isn't necessary though.

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[Just Want To Quit]

Depending on the flavor you can have some really funky tastes for a short time when changing. If the previous one is really strong it can take a bit to get rid of. Cinnamon is a tough one to get rid of typically, same with things like clove or mint. Sometimes you get some really enjoyable flavor combos when changing. Not much else to do with prebuilt coils than what you are already doing. If you get into rebuilding, you can remove the wicks and dry burn then re-wick if it is bad, most of the time it isn't necessary though.

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I had no idea that dry burning and replacing the wicks would really clean out the previous flavor like that! But now that you mentioned it, this is more incentive to get into rebuilding in addition to the financial benefits!

Thanks "Dude"! No pun intended!