Hey guys, I really need some advice! (New Member)

[Two_Bears]

I had no idea that dry burning and replacing the wicks would really clean out the previous flavor like that! But now that you mentioned it, this is more incentive to get into rebuilding in addition to the financial benefits!

Thanks "Dude"! No pun intended!

I keep saying I would NEVER go back to a tank with premade coils.

There are several reasons.

1 cost effective.
2. Coils last months
3. Better flavor
4. The ability to build to the resistance I want.

I use two RTAs.

Goblin Mini and Silverplay Nano.

Both are clones I bought on fasttech.

The GMini clone was a little over $9.
The Silverplay clone was only $10.07

Probably the easiest RTA to build is the Kayfun. A single coil held down by two simple screws. The only downside is limited airflow.

If You need more airflow look at the Monster base you can put this base under the Kayfun.

 

[Tol]

I had no idea that dry burning and replacing the wicks would really clean out the previous flavor like that! But now that you mentioned it, this is more incentive to get into rebuilding in addition to the financial benefits!

Thanks "Dude"! No pun intended!

Yeah, it can, normally not necessary for flavor changes though. Really it's a matter of a short crossover. Usually I dry burn when I get a lot of gunk built up on the coils to get a little more life from them. Some juice gunks up coils faster than others. Another bonus of building in the ability to re-wick if you accidentally burn your cotton instead of possibly needing a new coil with pre-built ones.

Building your own coils can be fun and sometimes a little frustrating, but it is not overly difficult. Just read, explore and take it slow. Above all be safe. Building is not everyone's cup of tea, and not a novice thing, but it opens up a lot of new ways to vape.

I am still not the greatest at building, but I am learning and getting better all the time.

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[CasketWeaver]

I had no idea that dry burning and replacing the wicks would really clean out the previous flavor like that! But now that you mentioned it, this is more incentive to get into rebuilding in addition to the financial benefits!

Thanks "Dude"! No pun intended!

So - how much are you liking your KBox Mini setup? Is it everything I told you it would be? More? Less? Nice charger by the way - good thing you picked one up! As far as other effective ways of cleaning coils and rewicking - just be careful when you dry burn your coils. After awhile the coil itself - the metal will have degraded to a point of becoming brittle and will eventually break. It's caused by wear and tear and that's why I suggest keeping your eye closely peeled on the resistance of the coil. Most coils marked at .5 will be anywhere from .5 - .59 Ohms naturally. It's when that coil gets above the .6 range is when you should start contemplating replacing it. Anything close to or above .69 is a sign that the coil is probably reaching the end of its life cycle. But that's at your discretion. I've seen people generally vape on their coil builds until the things no longer fire - although dangerous on an unregulated mod, they do it anyways.

As far as the wattage ranges - those are a guideline - pay no mind to them too much, just know that they have their minimum and maximum limits which you should keep in mind. Going over the max limit for too long reduces the coil life, under the minimum for too long will flood the tank, anywhere in the middle too long - will not only keep your juice vaporizing, but also get you a longer coil life. As I stated before in this post - the "sweet spot" for you may be different than everyone else. I have a rule of thumb though - keep it between 3.7V (AVG) and 4.2V (MAX) on average and all should be well (since those are the MAXIMUM and AVERAGE battery output voltages). You should see on screen when you fire it what the output voltage is. If not - run over to the Ohms Law Calculator, fill in the VOLTAGE and RESISTANCE fields ONLY, then hit CALCULATE and that should give you the WATTAGE that you should get close to. Been awhile since I fired up my old KBox - may have to give it another crack when I'm feeling 'froggish'.

As far as bulding is concerned - when the opportunity presents itself - financially or other wise, give it a crack. It "looks harder" than it is. Start small though... with 28AWG wire first, then move up to the big boys (26, 24, and 22AWG). I find 28AWG wire is a good place to start because it's thinner and therefor require more "finesse" to work it. And "finesse" is what you really need when it comes to rebuilding your coils and properly wicking them ALL... THE... TIME. Take it from me, I started building on a Genesis style atomizer (Stainless steel wick surrounded by Kanthal coil), FINESSE was needed here. Being too heavy handed would crush your wick and choke off juice flow, being too light handed would make your coils miss contact with your wick and wouldn't vape, and some builds were just finicky at best. So - that's why I suggest what I do. Trial and error man... that's what it's going to boil down to... trial and error. I have faith that you'll do it and when you do, you'll be surprised by the results every time.

 

[Just Want To Quit]

So - how much are you liking your KBox Mini setup? Is it everything I told you it would be? More? Less? Nice charger by the way - good thing you picked one up! As far as other effective ways of cleaning coils and rewicking - just be careful when you dry burn your coils. After awhile the coil itself - the metal will have degraded to a point of becoming brittle and will eventually break. It's caused by wear and tear and that's why I suggest keeping your eye closely peeled on the resistance of the coil. Most coils marked at .5 will be anywhere from .5 - .59 Ohms naturally. It's when that coil gets above the .6 range is when you should start contemplating replacing it. Anything close to or above .69 is a sign that the coil is probably reaching the end of its life cycle. But that's at your discretion. I've seen people generally vape on their coil builds until the things no longer fire - although dangerous on an unregulated mod, they do it anyways.

As far as the wattage ranges - those are a guideline - pay no mind to them too much, just know that they have their minimum and maximum limits which you should keep in mind. Going over the max limit for too long reduces the coil life, under the minimum for too long will flood the tank, anywhere in the middle too long - will not only keep your juice vaporizing, but also get you a longer coil life. As I stated before in this post - the "sweet spot" for you may be different than everyone else. I have a rule of thumb though - keep it between 3.7V (AVG) and 4.2V (MAX) on average and all should be well (since those are the MAXIMUM and AVERAGE battery output voltages). You should see on screen when you fire it what the output voltage is. If not - run over to the Ohms Law Calculator, fill in the VOLTAGE and RESISTANCE fields ONLY, then hit CALCULATE and that should give you the WATTAGE that you should get close to. Been awhile since I fired up my old KBox - may have to give it another crack when I'm feeling 'froggish'.

As far as bulding is concerned - when the opportunity presents itself - financially or other wise, give it a crack. It "looks harder" than it is. Start small though... with 28AWG wire first, then move up to the big boys (26, 24, and 22AWG). I find 28AWG wire is a good place to start because it's thinner and therefor require more "finesse" to work it. And "finesse" is what you really need when it comes to rebuilding your coils and properly wicking them ALL... THE... TIME. Take it from me, I started building on a Genesis style atomizer (Stainless steel wick surrounded by Kanthal coil), FINESSE was needed here. Being too heavy handed would crush your wick and choke off juice flow, being too light handed would make your coils miss contact with your wick and wouldn't vape, and some builds were just finicky at best. So - that's why I suggest what I do. Trial and error man... that's what it's going to boil down to... trial and error. I have faith that you'll do it and when you do, you'll be surprised by the results every time.

Yes it's just about everything you said it would be!

So I should be paying attention to the resistance of the coil and if it changes? What you said would also explain why my .5 and 1.5 ohm coils read .6 and 1.6 when first used. I'll definitely keep in mind what you said about the coils and if the 0.5 gets to 0.7 that is a sign of wear and tear that means it's time to swap coils.

As far as my sweetspot on the .05 wattage goes it's somewhere between 25 and 35 depending on the VG/PG ratio. For my 90$ vg, I really am digging 33 or so. I'm so glad you guys recommended this for me as I love having the VW now!

I decided to throw out my 0.5 coil that I've been using for almost 3 weeks since I got my subox mini and have since switched to the 1.5 and while I do prefer the 0.5.. the 1.5 actually still produces nice vapor even with a mouth to lung hit. What I've found interesting though is that I think my style of smoking is sometimes a hybrid between a MTL and Direct lung inhale. For the most part I am always direct to lung but since I started using the 1.5 ohm coil and especially the 2nd smallest airflow hole, I'm tending to revert back to mouth to lung. Anyhow Just wondering if you or anyone else has experienced this.

I've watched videos of huge decks with 3 or more posts and dual coils which do look a little more involved, but honestly all the videos I've been watching of the subtank mini RBA actually look pretty easy. Phil Busardo and Rip Trippers specifically! When I'm ready I'll let you know because I will be wanting to get those coil winders and maybe a small rebuilding kit with at least wire cutters, pliers and anything else I may need. I think more than likely I might consider getting a bag of the prewrapped coils first so I only have to deal with the wicking but after that I'm definitely going to start building and winding the coils myself.. maybe even in conjunction with buying the OCC's every now and then for convenience and for when I just really want to vape and go. Either way I love having the option with this kit!

Again much thanks to you and @Two_Bears for all your experienced advice. Thanks bro!

 

[TraceKira]

In the name of all that is holly just avoid Joytech ego one or similar.

 

[AndriaD]

What hardware you prefer is really up to you, though there's really nothing "complicated" about noticing which vape you like best, and then noticing what wattage is the current setting. But a couple of points regarding the "quitting":

You've quit smoking multiple times. Why is that? Could it be, because quitting is not really all that hard for *some* people (impossible for me), but STAYING quit... that's a horse of another color. As you've very clearly discovered for yourself.

The miracle of vaping is, it REPLACES smoking. If you use it for a while and then quit... are you not leaving yourself open to returning yet again to smoking? Since you already know this is a problem for you. Seems to me it would make a lot more sense to simply vape, and keep vaping, in order to prevent ever returning to smoking. Even if you don't vape all the time every day the way a person does who needs it that much just to stay away from cigarettes... but doing it regularly enough that you always have hardware and ejuice available, for when one of those nasty cigarette cravings rears its ugly head. Vaping could mean you never have to smoke again. But if you quit it... I'd say it's possible you will, maybe even very likely, given that you've returned to smoking quite a few times already.

Andria

 

[Just Want To Quit]

What hardware you prefer is really up to you, though there's really nothing "complicated" about noticing which vape you like best, and then noticing what wattage is the current setting. But a couple of points regarding the "quitting":

You've quit smoking multiple times. Why is that? Could it be, because quitting is not really all that hard for *some* people (impossible for me), but STAYING quit... that's a horse of another color. As you've very clearly discovered for yourself.

The miracle of vaping is, it REPLACES smoking. If you use it for a while and then quit... are you not leaving yourself open to returning yet again to smoking? Since you already know this is a problem for you. Seems to me it would make a lot more sense to simply vape, and keep vaping, in order to prevent ever returning to smoking. Even if you don't vape all the time every day the way a person does who needs it that much just to stay away from cigarettes... but doing it regularly enough that you always have hardware and ejuice available, for when one of those nasty cigarette cravings rears its ugly head. Vaping could mean you never have to smoke again. But if you quit it... I'd say it's possible you will, maybe even very likely, given that you've returned to smoking quite a few times already.

Andria

Hi Andria,

Yes I quit 3 times before in my life.. each time was roughly a period of 3 years of total abstinence from cigarettes, cigars, tobacco/Nicotine. All of them I quit cold turkey with only the first first week (and especially not having a cig every morning, after meals and dare I say.. almost with every beer on Friday nights) being the most difficult. I was very lucky though as not everyone can do this and I'm very grateful that I could.

This last time was just 3 weeks ago and I know I did it again for a 4th time thanks to vaping on both my Ego One and Subox. My process of weening of the cigs actually started in July after I moved. At that point I was down to about half a pack a day or so and while I had ejuice on hand with my Ego twist and Ego One, I never bought nicotine juice until Dec 3rd the day I quit. So from July to the End of November, I was still smoking on average between 10 to 13 cigs a day while I was still puffing on my wonderful 0 Nic Certified juice. Lets just say I don't think I could have done it If I stuck with 0 Nicotine.

Not only that but this time was much harder due to all the stress from my recent move, career change and job hunting so Vaping really has helped me kill the cigs cold turkey as of the 3rd. I feel as if I'm eating more though.. almost as much as my healthy appetite I had in my early twenties! If it wasn't for vaping, I think I would still be smoking honestly right now even perhaps.

I appreciate the concern about what I said about quitting vaping. I think I should have said, "I'm going to vape as long as I like and feel the need to but once I hit that point where I get to 0 Nicotine juice". I would be surprised If I'm still vaping 2 years after that. But who knows, by then Ejuice will be down to much more of a culinary science then it is even now so maybe I will still be vaping for flavor and not Nicotine. Who knows really, but I'm going to personally make sure I never revert back to smoking again under any circumstances.

I am no better than anyone else trying to get off the stinkies, I've just been really lucky that I had enough self restraint the first 3 times. This time however, I can thank the Subox mini and all you wonderful gals and guys on here for my success!

In the name of all that is holly just avoid Joytech ego one or similar.

You are entitled to your opinion but Joytech makes some good stuff. Evic VTC Mini has been very well praised by many people and they were the creators of the infamous Ego Batteries after all. I still like my Ego One, but I just don't use it since I got my Subox. I can still compare the flavor and vapor quality to that of the subox when the Ego One is coming off a fresh charge.

 

[AndriaD]

I think I should have said, "I'm going to vape as long as I like and feel the need to but once I hit that point where I get to 0 Nicotine juice". I would be surprised If I'm still vaping 2 years after that. But who knows, by then Ejuice will be down to much more of a culinary science then it is even now so maybe I will still be vaping for flavor and not Nicotine. Who knows really, but I'm going to personally make sure I never revert back to smoking again under any circumstances.

I really don't think nicotine is the reason for reverting back to smoking -- it's probably the LEAST addictive of all the various chemicals in cigarettes; for that reason, I don't see vaping 0mg as any good reason to quit vaping -- smoking, and also vaping, are far more *behavioral* than chemical addictions; particularly vaping! And the chemical addiction of smoking is so much more than merely nicotine -- it's MAOIs, which regulate brain chemicals, relieving stress and inducing relaxation.

I smoked ultra-light cigarettes for 20+ yrs. At one point, I was smoking 4 pks a day; then I quit drinking, and it went down to 3 pks a day. Then I quit smoking indoors, to save my boy's lungs, and it dropped to 2 pks a day. During the last 10 yrs, it gradually dwindled to 1 pk a day, mostly due to the rising price -- but if anyone asked me when I was going to quit smoking, my answer, immediately and always, was "Never." When I started vaping, that was still my answer -- I started vaping so I could stop having to run outdoors and freeze to death, but I had zero intention of quitting smoking.

Until I saw that vaping was a REMARKABLE substitute, and that I could very easily and painlessly stop smoking entirely; it took about a month of gradually smoking less and vaping more, but eventually the cigarettes were gone -- I was vaping 6mg. Over the next 6 months, I gradually raised it to 10mg, so I could put it down now and then, but never went higher -- though I smoked for almost 4 decades. I did have to add WTA, and THAT has been a real bear to step-down from; after a full year of gradual weaning, I'm still at 1%. But I started reducing nicotine when I got an RDA that packed a hell of a TH punch, and now I'm at 5mg -- and really haven't even noticed any difference, except the TH is lighter. If I had any interest in doing so (I don't), I could probably reduce it on down to zero nicotine -- but if I quit vaping, I'd be back to cigarettes within a week. Not because of nicotine; but because since I was 13 yrs old, I've drawn something into my mouth, inhaled, exhaled, and known satisfaction. That is never going to leave me, no matter how much or how little nicotine I use. The nicotine is IRRELEVANT. The satisfaction of the behavior is everything.

Andria

 

[Two_Bears]

Yes it's just about everything you said it would be!

So I should be paying attention to the resistance of the coil and if it changes? What you said would also explain why my .5 and 1.5 ohm coils read .6 and 1.6 when first used. I'll definitely keep in mind what you said about the coils and if the 0.5 gets to 0.7 that is a sign of wear and tear that means it's time to swap coils.

As far as my sweetspot on the .05 wattage goes it's somewhere between 25 and 35 depending on the VG/PG ratio. For my 90$ vg, I really am digging 33 or so. I'm so glad you guys recommended this for me as I love having the VW now!

I decided to throw out my 0.5 coil that I've been using for almost 3 weeks since I got my subox mini and have since switched to the 1.5 and while I do prefer the 0.5.. the 1.5 actually still produces nice vapor even with a mouth to lung hit. What I've found interesting though is that I think my style of smoking is sometimes a hybrid between a MTL and Direct lung inhale. For the most part I am always direct to lung but since I started using the 1.5 ohm coil and especially the 2nd smallest airflow hole, I'm tending to revert back to mouth to lung. Anyhow Just wondering if you or anyone else has experienced this.

I've watched videos of huge decks with 3 or more posts and dual coils which do look a little more involved, but honestly all the videos I've been watching of the subtank mini RBA actually look pretty easy. Phil Busardo and Rip Trippers specifically! When I'm ready I'll let you know because I will be wanting to get those coil winders and maybe a small rebuilding kit with at least wire cutters, pliers and anything else I may need. I think more than likely I might consider getting a bag of the prewrapped coils first so I only have to deal with the wicking but after that I'm definitely going to start building and winding the coils myself.. maybe even in conjunction with buying the OCC's every now and then for convenience and for when I just really want to vape and go. Either way I love having the option with this kit!

Again much thanks to you and @Two_Bears for all your experienced advice. Thanks bro!

My sweet spot is .8-1 ohm. When the ohms gets go 1.1-1.7 I rebuild.

On my current coil it started at .77and has gone up to .84. At .96-1 I will rebuild.

 

[Just Want To Quit]

I really don't think nicotine is the reason for reverting back to smoking -- it's probably the LEAST addictive of all the various chemicals in cigarettes; for that reason, I don't see vaping 0mg as any good reason to quit vaping -- smoking, and also vaping, are far more *behavioral* than chemical addictions; particularly vaping! And the chemical addiction of smoking is so much more than merely nicotine -- it's MAOIs, which regulate brain chemicals, relieving stress and inducing relaxation.

I smoked ultra-light cigarettes for 20+ yrs. At one point, I was smoking 4 pks a day; then I quit drinking, and it went down to 3 pks a day. Then I quit smoking indoors, to save my boy's lungs, and it dropped to 2 pks a day. During the last 10 yrs, it gradually dwindled to 1 pk a day, mostly due to the rising price -- but if anyone asked me when I was going to quit smoking, my answer, immediately and always, was "Never." When I started vaping, that was still my answer -- I started vaping so I could stop having to run outdoors and freeze to death, but I had zero intention of quitting smoking.

Until I saw that vaping was a REMARKABLE substitute, and that I could very easily and painlessly stop smoking entirely; it took about a month of gradually smoking less and vaping more, but eventually the cigarettes were gone -- I was vaping 6mg. Over the next 6 months, I gradually raised it to 10mg, so I could put it down now and then, but never went higher -- though I smoked for almost 4 decades. I did have to add WTA, and THAT has been a real bear to step-down from; after a full year of gradual weaning, I'm still at 1%. But I started reducing nicotine when I got an RDA that packed a hell of a TH punch, and now I'm at 5mg -- and really haven't even noticed any difference, except the TH is lighter. If I had any interest in doing so (I don't), I could probably reduce it on down to zero nicotine -- but if I quit vaping, I'd be back to cigarettes within a week. Not because of nicotine; but because since I was 13 yrs old, I've drawn something into my mouth, inhaled, exhaled, and known satisfaction. That is never going to leave me, no matter how much or how little nicotine I use. The nicotine is IRRELEVANT. The satisfaction of the behavior is everything.

Andria

That's one hell of a success story, In the end you still manged to pull it off and that's all that matters. Basically what you are saying is that It's more of the "physical act" of smoking and the behaviors associated with it can actually be more of an addiction than the nicotine? I've heard this before and honestly, I can relate. Back when I was smoking, it was never about the Nic for me (or maybe I didn't realize it) but more about going outside after a beer (and other things that can't be discussed here) than anything. If this is what you are implying then yes I can totally see that as being a huge part of this as well.

I know I maybe jumping the gun a bit by saying I may not be vaping forever after I reduce my Nic level to 0, but I honestly think I'm capable of it. Yes there is definitely still enjoyment and much more flavor without the Nicotine for me and I almost can relate a good tasting juice as almost the same as a good after dinner mint! What I think will probably happen is I start vaping infrequently and become more and more causal with it until It just phases out. Not saying it will happen for sure but I'm still a firm believer not vaping at all is better than even vaping.

Only problem is, I just got a Zample Box which encourages my interest in vaping due to wanting to try every major juice out there. I'll be honest, I haven't even scratched the surface yet with only trying out maybe about 10 different flavors, most of them Fruit and Vanilla Butterscotch which I love.

Instead of starting a new thread, what exactly is the best way wash out the old flavor from the tank and coil before adding a new one? I'm hearing soaking in rubbing alcohol but I hear tap water can damage the coil? I just went through my .05 coil after 3 weeks and just popped in the 1.5 OCC today when switching from my Jungle Fever juice to my first Zamplebox flavor... Cosmic Fog "Streek" it's called. I have two tanks to play with during this process, the Ego One Mega and the Subtank Mini. I was thinking of buying another tank for the subox as well since I'm now using Zamplebox what do you think?

An RDA (dripper right?) would be most ideal for this kind of tasting it seems but I'm not quite there yet. In the meantime, I'm going to finish this 1.5 coil up first then I'll attempt wicking the prewound coils on the RBA using Phil's and Rip Tripper's videos. Is there any thing you would advise me to do as far as cleaning out the flavor of the previous juice? I usually just clean the tank under hot and cold water, try to blow out the old juice out of the coil and make sure to prime it with the new juice on the new coil. I have been reluctant to rinse my coils in water or anything until I read up about it further. What would you suggest?

Haha, I think the 1.5ohm coil is lasting twice as long as my 0.5 ever did which means the juice will last me longer as well. I vaped between 25 and 35 on the 0.5 and usually between 17 and 20 on the 1.5. I guess if I ever become broke and can't afford as much juice anymore I can always pick up some of those 1.5's or build the rba to compensate. Btw... I still tend to direct lung inhale on the 1.5. Is that out of the ordinary.

Anyone can feel free to reply.

My sweet spot is .8-1 ohm. When the ohms gets go 1.1-1.7 I rebuild.

On my current coil it started at .77and has gone up to .84. At .96-1 I will rebuild.

I get it. I just never realized that the Ohm reader on the device was any indication on when to change the coils. I always thought the Ohm reader wasn't exactly accurate or maybe the OCC's weren't wrapped accurately.... although I doubt the latter. I'm going to have to go over the RBA stuff with you when I'm ready.. especially when it comes to dry burning to remove the previous Juice flavor. That is my pressing concern at the moment because I'm so anxious to try the other 5 Zamplebox flavors that I've been chain vaping this delicious "Streek" all day. Haha!

 

[AndriaD]

I can't really advise, with the atty you're using, having never used that one myself. I do know that when I first started, I ended up with a half dozen T3S tanks, just so I could vape different flavors -- but those tanks were cheap. After I switched over to rebuildables, I've now got 4 Kayfuns (RTAs) and 2 Achilles (RDAs); the funny and ironic thing though, is that I vape only one juice all the time, the strawberry & cream that I make, because it's the only one that tastes good to me anymore. I don't even use the Kayfuns anymore, because the juice is a massive gunk monster, and vaping it in a tank means a LOT of wasted juice, from the gunk turning it brown -- my husband says it smells bad when that happens, so I just stick to my 2 Achilles, both with the strawberry, so I can still be vaping while I'm dry-burning and re-wicking the other one.

I'm not saying I'll never quit vaping; I have asthma, so if I should ever reach a point where the very idea of quitting vaping doesn't make me think fondly of cigarettes, then it's possible I might quit -- but even if I did, I'd probably still want to use a nicotine patch, just to keep the beneficial effect of nicotine; with different forms of dementia on both sides of my family tree, I need all the help I can get to keep my marbles where they belong, and nicotine just might be exactly what it takes -- who knows; I used to never worry about senility or alzheimers, figuring the smoking would do me in long before I needed to worry about my mind. Now that I've quit smoking, I just might need the nicotine to stay firmly in touch with who and when I am. It would be a terrible thing to quit smoking so I could live longer, only to lose my identity because of the loss of nicotine.

Andria

 

[Two_Bears]

3times. This time however, I can thank the Subox mini and all you wonderful gals and guys on here for my success!

All we did was point the direction. You did the work, and I am glad I could help you. I could be doing a lot of other stuff than post here. I'm here because someone pointed the way for me and I am here to pay it forward.

You are entitled to your opinion but Joytech makes some good stuff. Evic VTC Mini has been very well praised by many people and they were the creators of the infamous Ego Batteries after all. I still like

Absolutely! All companies make good products and bad products.

I hear the same thing about Eleaf. People say that eleaf mods suck and think the Eleaf tanks are WONDERFUL My experience was 180 degrees out of phase.

I have owned three eleaf mods 40TC, AND TWO 60 TC. All three have been great. The 40TC had the most accurate ohm meter I ever used. The 60TCs good but nowhere as good as the 40TC. I bought an Eleaf tank Lemo 2 and it leaked out half of my EJuice in three hours Almost as if Eleaf forgot to install an O ring. I saved what juice I could and deposited the ______ tank into the garbage.

I have the Joytech Evic VTC but haven't used it yet. I got the Coolfire4 back from my sister and will let her choose whether she wants the Evic or Eleaf 60TC.

Having the external battery is a better option.

 

[Just Want To Quit]

I feel as if this belongs here:

Well the truth is my father never smoked but me and my sister did and stopped cold turkey. Only difference between her and me is she didn't relapse when she quit in 94. I know everyone's chemical makeup along with genetics plays a key role here as everyone is different but as corny as this Star Wars Meme sounds, I think you or anyone else can do it as well. The other major thing I forgot to mention that was extremely important was changing my routine and daily habits as well. If you ask me I think routine and changing the things you do daily plays a much bigger role. I know Sunflower seeds seriously helped me with the first 3 times.

My sister has had Asthma and I know how serious that can be.. especially with the onset of her pneumonia. My grandmother died with Dementia but was so drugged up with Seroquel towards the end she died peacefully in her sleep. I was there at the hospital and watched her take her last breath. It affects me even to this day. The thought of losing my 65 year old plus parents just eats me up alive.

If you personally feel nicotine helps keep you level headed, then by all means continue doing it. I wish you the best on whatever works for you, I really do.

Also, I understand you aren't familiar with my setup but I always appreciate the comment. I'm currently thinking of getting a collection of tanks myself for flavor tasting.

 

[Two_Bears]

I really don't think nicotine is the reason for reverting back to smoking -- it's probably the LEAST addictive of all the various chemicals in cigarettes; for that reason, I don't see vaping 0mg as any good reason to quit vaping -- smoking, and also

I agree 2000%. I am literally a week or 10 days of going 0 nic. I have no intention of stopping vaping. Because if I stopped vaping and I got under stress; I would find my feet onto the way to the nearest smoke shop. I think the psychological and musci memory of smoking is more addictive than nic.

32 months ago I was down to 3 mg and went out without my vape. A heated argument broke out I bummed three cigs and undone all the hard work I had done. That is why I say if vaping works for you NEVER EVER smoke another cigarette if you can prevent it.

Until I saw that vaping was a REMARKABLE substitute, and that I could very easily and painlessly stop smoking entirely; it took about a month of gradually

the reason is because Vaping is a complete replacement for smoking. The gums and patches only replace the nic.

Vaping replaces the nic, the feel of the vapor in your lungs feels as if you are smoking, and bringing the atty to your lips supporting the muscle memory of smoking.

This is why so many people have been able to kick the Stinkies to the curb.

These eCigarettes have been a real God send for people wanting to get that monkey off their backs.
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[AndriaD]

I agree 2000%. I am literally a week or 10 days of going 0 nic. I have no intention of stopping vaping. Because if I stopped vaping and I got under stress; I would find my feet onto the way to the nearest smoke shop. I think the psychological and musci memory of smoking is more addictive than nic.

32 months ago I was down to 3 mg and went out without my vape. A heated argument broke out I bummed three cigs and undone all the hard work I had done. That is why I say if vaping works for you NEVER EVER smoke another cigarette if you can prevent it.

Completely agree; I had a month-long relapse, and I was just amazed and appalled at how fast cigarettes got their hooks back into me -- after 3.5 months of smoke-free, it took less than 3 days to be right back at a pack a day. And I had only intended it as a very short-term measure, maybe a week or two; it took a month again, to dig those hooks back outta my flesh. Then 10 days after I was very happily back to smoke-free, the godawful cravings came back, and all I can say is thank every god that's ever existed for WTA, because it saved me from a SECOND relapse.

the reason is because Vaping is a complete replacement for smoking. The gums and patches only replace the nic.

Vaping replaces the nic, the feel of the vapor in your lungs feels as if you are smoking, and bringing the atty to your lips supporting the muscle memory of smoking.

This is why so many people have been able to kick the Stinkies to the curb.

These eCigarettes have been a real God send for people wanting to get that monkey off their backs.

It's the only thing that's ever worked for me. In 1984, I did manage 3 months cold-turkey, but I went back to smoking because I was tired of suffering every minute of every day, even sleeping; cigarettes chasing me thru my dreams every night, all night long. Twice I tried the patch, which did absolutely nothing but give me palpitations and turn me into a basket case, but did nothing whatever for my cravings for a cigarette. But vaping at 6mg... magically freed from the compulsion to smoke. I always said I wanted to be a non-smoker, if I could do it without having to quit smoking, and that's really how it feels -- all the benefits of smoke-free, and very little of the suffering -- what little there was, WTA took care of.

Andria

 

[Two_Bears]

I know I maybe jumping the gun a bit by saying I may not be vaping forever after I reduce my Nic level to 0, but I honestly

I don't ever intend to stop vaping. I want rid of the Cigarette monkey on my back FOREVER!

What exactly is the best way wash out the old flavor from the tank and coil before adding a new one? I'm hearing soaking in rubbing alcohol but I hear tap water can damage the coil? I just wen

grain alcohol like Everclear, vodka, clear rum yes. Rubbing alcohol NEVER.

Rip Trippers made a vid showing how he kept his coils going three months. In that he is heating a coil red hot releasing the button and putting the still hot coil under running water. If water was going to hurt coils his coil should have snapped but he did that about 5-6 times and the coil was still good.

With premade coils I would soak the coil in Vodka over night and allow to dry. Rinse the tank our with water and allow to dry over night.

was thinking of buying another tank for the subox as well since I'm now using Zamplebox what do you think?

Once you start rebuilding on an RDA of RTA; tanks will be the LAST thing on your mind

An RDA (dripper right?) would be most ideal for this kind of tasting it seems but I'm not quite there yet. In the meantime, I'm going to finish this 1.5 coil up first then

Would be PERFECT for tasting. Rip the wick out of the coil dry burn the coil(s)

I got rid of all of my RDAs except one of them just in case I need to taste something or a friend wants a taste of what I am vaping.

If you want an RDA I can highly recommend several. The three best RDAs I ever tried are the Freakshow Mini, the Rogue, and the Darang. My experience has shown that short RDAs seem to produce better flavor. The Freakshow Mini is 19 mm not counting 510 and drip tip. The Rogue is 18 mm.

There are a bunch of shorter RDAs I didn't try such as derringer, bambino, stumpy, mako shorty.

I was satisfied with the top airflow of the Rogue that ended the leaks of my Magma, Veritas, etc.

I got the Goblin GMini and my entire worldview shifted. The flavor better than many RDAs I used, and the convenience of a tank where I wasn't Dripping all the time so I kicked most of my drippers to the curb.

attempt wicking the prewound coils on the RBA using Phil's and Rip Tripper's videos. Is there any thing you would advise me to do as far as cleaning out the flavor of the previous juice? I usually just clean the tank under hot and cold water, try to blow out the old juice out of the coil and make sure to prime it with the new juice on the new coil. I

YOU GOT IT. Remove wick dry burn the coil, after the coil cools rinse everything under water.

get it. I just never realized that the Ohm reader on the device was any indication on when to change the coils. I always thought the Ohm reader wasn't exactly accurate or maybe the OCC's weren't wrapped accurately.... although I doubt the

We are talking three different things here.

1. As coils get hot the resistance goes up slightly like .01-.03 ohms. This is perfectly normal and can be ignored.

2. What I was talking about was when the cool coils go up in resistance by 1/5th or 1/3 of an ohm. This is a good signification the coil is reaching the end of life. For this the ohm meter in the mod is plenty accurate enough.

3. If the ohms rating of the coil starts making radical swings; there is a problem and you may need to tighten a screw of toss a faulty coil.

Latter. I'm going to have to go over the RBA stuff with you when I'm ready.. especially when it comes to dry burning to remove the previous Juice flavor. That is my pressing concern at the moment because I'm so anxious to try the other 5 Zamplebox

Any time brother.

 

[Two_Bears]

Completely agree; I had a month-long relapse, and I was just amazed and appalled at how fast cigarettes got their hooks back into me -- after 3.5 months

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Took just three cigarettes for me. Because my 3 mg vspe wasn't cutting it any more.

It's the only thing that's ever worked for me. In 1984, I did manage 3 months cold-turkey, but I went back to smoking

I tried cold turkey, the gum, the patch, and even hypnosis to get into my stupid subconscious mind how bad cigarettes were.

 

[AndriaD]

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Took just three cigarettes for me. Because my 3 mg vspe wasn't cutting it any more.



I tried cold turkey, the gum, the patch, and even hypnosis to get into my stupid subconscious mind how bad cigarettes were.

I knew exactly how bad they were, especially after watching my dad dying of lung cancer. Made no difference to my cigarette addiction. Without vaping, I'd have smoked till I died of it. It still might kill me, eventually, but at least I'm no longer adding to the risk every half hour.

Andria

 

[Just Want To Quit]

I found that just rinsing the coil under hot water for about 10 seconds or so, shaking and blowing it out and priming it with the new juice works well enough when changing the 4 flavors I have been through on my Zamplebox already. I'll try to pick up a half pint of some normal 80 proof cheap vodka when I pick up my weekly 12 pack tomorrow.

Anyhow I have a few more noob questions about my subox mini kit.

I've been experimenting with the 2 coils (RBA is next after the two OCC's reach their EOL) and while I do prefer the 0.5, the 1.5 is still very satisifying. I've found myself getting more flavor with the 0.5 with the airflow control on the two smaller holes.

1. Would this be the same as using the 1.5 coil on the wide open setting? When I have the 0.5 is it bad to use it for mouth to lung (when I choose to) with the 2nd and smallest holes on the airflow? Also will I be using more juice with the 0.5 coil even when I'm in the mood for mouth to lung and want to use the smallest airflow?

Even though I used to MTL when I smoked, since starting to vape I've found myself doing some kind of hybrid technique which is a combo of the two. When taking a hit off my subtank mini, I usually fire it for a second or 2 before drawing and release the fire button while continuing to draw in order to clear the chamber for an extra second or two. I know this sounds like something else right? Haha

2. Anyhow does firing the device a couple of seconds before taking my hit do any damage? I never let my juice level get halfway below the juice holes on the side of the OCC's. The reason why I do this is because it takes a good second or 3 until it really gets going. Is this normal for the kbox mini mod?

Depending on the juice I find the sweetspot for the 1.5 coil to be around 15 watts or so while anything I use with the 0.5 coil can be anywhere between 25 to 37 watts.

3. To the subox mini owners out there.. Does this sound about the same wattages you guys use as well? I'd like to think they are in the same ballpark but please let me know.

I have some some general questions not to related to the Subox Kit but would like to know the answers to these nonetheless.

1. If I'm getting such a satisfying vape at 30 watts or so... How exactly do other devices do 200? I understand the higher the wattage, the more juice is used but how exactly do these devices compare to 40 or 50 watt devices like the K box mini? In otherwords... Are these 2 and 3 cell 200 watt devices really delivering the higher wattages as promised or is it because those devices have such a higher watt capacity that they are calibrated differently? I really want to know what advantage there is if say... I had an RX200 and was vaping on a 0.5ohm at 35 watts and if I was vaping on my Kbox Mini with the same tank, coil and watts? If it's the same, is there really a need for these devices that go up to 200 watts?

2. Although I'm not sold on Temp Control yet, does it really conserve juice?? Like substantially? I'm currently reading up on TC but would really like to hear what you guys have to say about it.

3. Are these temp controlled coils really safe? And is it true that some coils can be used for both TC and VW mode? I thought SS was one of them.

4. Anyone have a quick reference to how temp control works exactly? I would be interested in something other than GrimGreen's description.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Two_Bears]

I found that just rinsing the coil under hot water for about 10 seconds or so, shaking and blowing it out and priming it with the new juice works well enough when changing the 4 flavors I have been through

That works but you the first few hits will be messed up till the water us burned off.

I've found myself getting more flavor with the 0.5 with the airflow control on the two smaller holes.

YES when the airflow is decreased the flavor increases. That is part of the reason why the Kayfun is noted for having good flavor. It is strictly a MTL (Mouth To Lung) device. It has a tiny 1-1.5 mm hole for airflow. The other reason is the reduced chimney. It reduces the barrel about 1/2 inch if memory serves to 1/5 an inch.

1.Would this be the same as using the 1.5 coil on the wide open setting? When I have the 0.5 is it bad to use it for mouth to lung (when I choose to) with the 2nd and smallest holes on the airflow? Also will I be using more juice with the 0.5 coil even when I'm in the mood for mouth to lung and want

there are two factors that determine juice consumption. Wattage and resistance

No it is not bad for the coil to reduce the airflow and use it as a MTL device

Even though I used to MTL when I smoked, since starting to vape I've found myself doing some kind of hybrid technique

CONGRATS you're normal. Every Vaper's vaping style evolves from MTL to lung hits over time when they find the vapor us not as irritating to the throat and lungs as smoke is.

There are some exceptions namely those with asthma and emphysema.

which is a combo of the two. When taking a hit off my subtank mini, I usually fire it for a second or 2 before drawing and release the fire button while continuing to draw in order to clear the chamber for an extra second or two. I know this sounds like something else right? Haha

NOTHING to worry about here.

First it takes a second or two for the coil to heat up. Even longer if you are using an eCig with dual coils. If the coil has returned to room temperature for the first drag nothing wrong with firing a second or too. I do that too but only on the first drag. If you don't the amount of vapor of tge first drag will not be satisfying.

Second. About releasing the Fire button a second or two before ending the inhale. That is needed on my Goblin Mini and Silverplay Nano. They have the airflow directly under the coil (s). If you don't clear the chamber of vapor as you expressed it the vapor will fall through the airflow and collect on the mod..

2. Anyhow does firing the device a couple of seconds before taking my hit do any damage?

NOT AT ALL. You're just bringing the coil up to operating temperature

because it takes a good second or 3 until it really gets going. Is this normal for the kbox mini mod?

It takes time to get the coil to operating temperature.

I do the same thing with my istick60tc and eVic VTC MINI mods.

Depending on the juice I find the sweetspot for the 1.5 coil to be around 15 watts or so while anything I use with the 0.5 coil can be anywhere between 25 to 37 watts.

If that is what works for you then that is what works for you.

I find 12.5 watts works for me v
But I am using a horizontal coil instead of a vertical. I keep saying I am going to do a chimney build one of these days. There are some ECF members vaping 1.8 ohm coils at 9 watts. The whole name of the game is to find a satisfying vape that will keep you off the Stinkies.

I was talking to a lady vaper yesterday. She had been vaping 3 years and her battery died and she said she bummed a cigarette took one drag and put it out. She couldn't believe she had smoked something that nasty. I was the other way I bummed two cigs and my 3mg vape wasn't good enough so I had to go up on my nic.

BTW I went 0 mg nic Saturday, and looks as if I can stay there. YIPPEE.

3. To the subox mini owners out there.. Does this sound about the same wattages you guys use as well? I'd like to think they are in the same ballpark but please let me know.

EVERYONE is an individual. The voltages others use is irrelevant. Find the sweet spot for you.

1. If I'm getting such a satisfying vape at 30 watts or so... How exactly do other devices do 200? I understand the

I don't have a 200 watt device. My mods do 60 watts.

You need to understand two things about those devices.

They can only to 200 watts on fully charged batteries, and the coil is very low resistance.

There are two reasons to get a 200 watt device.

1. Longer battery life

2. You are a cloud chaser with BIG airflow to keep the coils cool and not burn the wick.

Are these 2 and 3 cell 200 watt devices really delivering the higher wattages as promised or is it because those devices have such a higher watt capacity that they are calibrated differently? I really want

40 watts is 40 watts. Power used is a combination of resistance and wattage. These devices have maximum voltage they can churn out. I forget the formula from 42 years ago but wattage squared then multiplied by the resistance I think gives you the voltage used. If you put a 1.2 ohm coil in an atty you may be only able to use 130 watts before you hit the maximum voltage.

A few weeks ago I was trying to help a newbie who wanted us to tell him how to wrap a coil with 26 gauge Kanthal for a .15 ohm coil so he could get the full 200 watts out of his mod.

He was not happy when we told him it couldn't be done with his wife unless he was satisfied with 1 wrap 2.5 mms.

Then he went into a tirade how the manufacturer had lied. We tried to explain it may be possible to do with 20 gauge Kanthal, and definitely possible with Nickel and possibly titanium wire.

2. Although I'm not sold on Temp Control yet, does it really conserve juice?? Like substantially? I'm currently reading up on TC but would really like to hear what you guys have to say about it.

I don't use TC. so the following opinion may be worth only what you paid for it.

I don't know if it conserves juice or not. The benefit I see is that it won't let you burn your wick.

3. Are these temp controlled coils really safe? And is it true that some coils can be used for both TC and VW mode? I thought SS was one of them.

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There are three metals that can be used in TC. Nickel, titanium, and Stainless steel. Some mods only work with 1 or two of those metals. My istick40 would do TC only with Nickel according to the manual. Another person said he got titanium to work but he had to lower the Temp by 100 degrees

I would say Nickel wire would be safe but only in TC mode. But never in power mode.

. Anyone have a quick reference to how temp control works exactly? I would be interested in something other than GrimGreen's description.

Thanks in advance!

NO idea. Two companies are trying to get TC to work on Kanthal.[/QUOTE]