Hey

[krazie_Kid]

Just wanted to pop in and say hi, and see how everyone is. It is a crummy weekend here in NY, but i hope everyone had a good weekend.

Hopefully people here are doing good, I shall be back to pop in again, right now I am busy looking for a 2nd job, so I can have an apartment with my gf.

 

[keyzygirl]

Hey KK!! I missed you. I hope everything is going well. (((Hugs))) I been thinking about you lately!

 

[Peeps]

Hiya KK!!! Stop by more often-we miss you!

 

[EleanorR]

Kevin! Thanks for popping in!

It's always good to see you.

 

[dedi]

Just wanted to pop in and say hi, and see how everyone is. It is a crummy weekend here in NY, but i hope everyone had a good weekend.

Hopefully people here are doing good, I shall be back to pop in again, right now I am busy looking for a 2nd job, so I can have an apartment with my gf.

heyyyyy KK! It's amazing how Friday was a wonderful day then the weekend came...............wonderful NY weather!

 

[EleanorR]

Dedi, did y'all get the snow?

I thought late April only did crazy stuff like that to us in the midwest!

 

[krazie_Kid]

Hey Peeps, haven't seen you in a dogs age, I hope you are doing good, I missed you guy's too, I wanted to drop by and just say hi and hope everything is good.

Keyzy I always think about you, and always pray everything is going good for you. I have actually been trying to get on FB to message you there, but I been so busy lately.

Elenore, I know we haven't caught each other in a very long time, and I also hope and keep you in my thoughts that everything goes good for you. I hope you are still vaping.

Dedi, it was nice saturday? or friday? Then came either saturday or sunday and it was so crappy, I was upset cause I was off today and it was still blegh outside...

The reason I do not come here, is basically Sawlight's reason, I have nothing to contribute anymore... Everyone knows what I know, and after a fight with someone, I just do not respond to vaping question's anymore, due to the fact I was told I steal people's research, or their answers.

I do lurk once in a while though, just to keep my eyes open for stuff going on.

I hope everyone is well, and please, take care of yourself, and be extra careful when driving.

 

[dedi]

K and El, we had a beautiful Friday, in fact went biking and scootered to visit a friend in hip rehab. It was near 80 degrees, Then Sat it took a dive! Wind, rain and snow.....Monday and Tuesday aren't any better! At least I don't mind going to work! lol

 

[keyzygirl]

We love you KK,You can always come hang with us. (((Hugs)))

 

[plarkinjr]

Hey KK, good luck on that job and apartment!

 

[Peeps]

Hey Kevin, you're wrong. You contribute just by being you and don't let anyone tell you differently. What happened to you was terrible but you have friends that love you here. Don't forget that.

 

[Morandir835]

This is exactly what I was taking about in the family chat. What happened was handled via pm, a pm that was made public, something that is against the rules. All anyone on here knows is one half of the story. Yet it continues to fester because people have made it their business when again a pm is supposed to be by it's name alone, private. That thread was deleted for a reason. This forum has slowed down considerably because of it was posted at all. Who wants to post in a forum where there's nothing but fighting, especially if you know that if you disagree with certain people you're going to have a whole group come after you not one individual. There are are always three sides to every story, person a, person b, and the truth. All everyone jumping in knows is person a's side.

Normally wouldn't make a comment, but since this thread hasn't been shut down yet, and having gone through a similar situation myself about a year ago can't hold my tongue any longer. Until you know the full story, you don't know the full story.

 

[Lisa66]

KK, it's good to hear from you. What you say about not having anything to contribute....... that's just not true. Your posts have made me laugh out loud many times. That's worth a lot, I think. More than half the reason I keep coming here is for enjoyable entertainment and you've been a part of it over the last year. I don't know any specifics about past issues but I hope that you won't hesitate if you feel like posting.

Good luck to you in your job search!

 

[keyzygirl]

I read the PM,a lot of us did. If thats how things are handled in pm Im not supporting the deal with it in PM theory. The reason this was started was another rude post by the person you are backing. Why is it okay to be rude and nasty but not okay to hold someone accountable for it? Im not being mean I just want you to explain to me why its okay to act like a jerk but its not okay for people to be upset by it and air the fact that it is upsetting them and that it scares members off the forum. Why is the offender never held accountable but the defenders are made to keep quiet.Please explain your reasoning to me.Please.

 

[waylonjessi4ever]

Well ...i don't claim to know anyone else's full story ,but that same fear exists elsewhere.I think we are just saying HI to someone we know and greeting him. I don't think thats why this forum has slowed down .It slowed because people come and go and get busy with real life ,just sayin . Saying hi and being cordial is not taking sides and if it is ,then thats a gang mentality onto itself . The upshot is with all the bs I think people have just realized its easier to email /facebook the people you get along with .Thats where I'm at .NOT to say i am not grateful for all the expert advice and help or i would not be able to use a tank ! We are grateful for all of the people here ,just wish there was no fighting .

 

[Morandir835]

Ms. Keyzy one simple question, do you know what said via pm from the other party before hand? Do you honestly think it was just some random mean spirited pm? I'm not defending anyone, what I keep trying to convey which seems to be missed is unless you know the full situation you don't know the full situation..... If you're referring to a certain sticky and the comments there notice how I stayed out of it, because the disagreement was between two people that were not you or I..... Again was turned into a gang fight because others decided to jump in. Goes back to the statements earlier in the family chat again....

 

[keyzygirl]

I agree,but dont you find it kind of strange that all these people were suddenly acting up all of sudden and no one else noticed or complained? Makes me wonder what they could have done and who they did it to. Funny so many different people involved but it always involves the same person. I just find it strange. I honestly cant understand it. People are attacking SnowDragon? Is that what your saying?

 

[Morandir835]

What I'm saying Ms. Keyzy is this, let's say you have a chihuahua and a German Sheppard, the chihuahua starts the fight, the Sheppard finishes it. Guess which one gets the blame? Instead of people looking at the whole situation, they're looking at who left beaten up the worst. Other words it's coming off that it's perfectly ok to start fights, just don't finish them....

 

[keyzygirl]

So all these people attacked Snow and started fights with him? Why?


Go discuss it,Ill wait.

If anyone gets bored waiting you can read my blog,links in my sig.

 

[Morandir835]

Have I mentioned a single name Ms. Keyzy? Will not speak for anyone else, but can say there have been a few who have started fights with me, and just like this situation I was made out to be the bad guy because whole I didn't start it, finished it. Have had excerpts from a pm posted and taken out of context by one of these people. You were the first to jump in in her defense if you remember, and you didn't know the while story and still don't. That's what I'm saying Ms. Keyzy, people are jumping in the brew and don't know what kind of beer it is. It's created a hostile environment in here. The lines are as clear as day for most to see, and if I was a new person would take one look and say I'm not joining this because I don't want to be on any side, just want to talk and be helped or help. Instead it's turned into a drama fest. Speaking again for myself, started to have less and less presence on here not because of the V4L forum, but because this forum turned into a battle ground. Whether it's by blog, or snide comment, list goes on, all the fun was sucked out of here. When all you've done is try to help and get attacked because someone felt you were talking down to them when all you were doing is trying to not have people's face blown off, or have someone jump on every one of your posts because they have nothing better to do it seems and can't come up with one helpful thing on their own it gets grating. I love V4L, love helping others, love doing the testing, but my love for this subforum has waned because of what I just mentioned.