Hi All... Holy Crap is 18mg High!? (former ultra light smoker)

[ClippinWings]

SO for Christmas my wife got me the TW Tornado T and a bunch of different flavored juices...

I had tried ecigs for a couple weeks last year, got some green nicotine POS as a gift... I stayed analog free for 2 weeks until I got frustrated with the weak battery life and weaker carts... so have been looking at the egoT type units for a while now....

1st, I'm VERY happy with the unit, appears to address all my complaints about the last one...

So far my only complaint is that my wife bought 18mg fluid from TW... which is crazy high nicotine compared to the pack a day marlboro 72, ultra light habit I had...

So... is there a simple way to "cut" the juice... I'd like to not lose flavor, but if it goes down a bit and allows me to vape more with out the "OMG too much nic" feeling... i'd be OK with that.

What do you suggest? I have tobacco, Vanilla and Coffee juice(Coffee is fantastic!)...

Can I cut them a bit with water?
Or do I need to buy lower Nic fluid and mix it down... I was think I could buy complimentary flavors to the various stuff I have(Chocolate, some sort of berry, ett.) and make like vanilla berry, mocha, etc...

BUT if there's a way to just cut what i have and save some cash... for now anyway... that's be great

 

[DaveP]

18mg is not generally thought of as a high nicotine strength. 24mg and 36mg are, by comparison, high juice strengths. I wonder if you might be vaping a little too frequently at first. Some of us do this without thinking and find we have to back off from time to time or go to a lower strength that allows us to "vape like fiends".

If you find yourself with a buzz too often, you might leave your PV in a central location that makes you physically get up and go to it. That way, you will vape like we did when smoking cigs. We didn't chain smoke, but we tend to chain vape. Treat it like a smoke break. Go and vape periodically and then go back to what you were doing for a while and see if that helps.

 

[arbogast]

Cheapest way would be to order some PG and VG to thin it with. Water doesn't really work (though users who use VG only thin it with a bit of water). You'll lose some flavor, though.

 

[ClippinWings]

18mg is not generally thought of as a high nicotine strength. 24mg and 36mg are, by comparison, high juice strengths. I wonder if you might be vaping a little too frequently at first. Some of us do this without thinking and find we have to back off from time to time or go to a lower strength that allows us to "vape like fiends".

If you find yourself with a buzz too often, you might leave your PV in a central location that makes you physically get up and go to it. That way, you will vape like we did when smoking cigs. We didn't chain smoke, but we tend to chain vape. Treat it like a smoke break. Go and vape periodically and then go back to what you were doing for a while and see if that helps.

Thanks for the tips...

you're probably right... the ability to vape whenever is a little too tempting... a hit now and then during the day and it probably does add up to more than the actual smoking I did before.

yeah, I know 18 is not very high but the feeling is obvious, I've had the too many cigs feeling before. LOL

I tend to go hours between cigarettes and then chain smoke several... so maybe I need to try not to vape constantly LOL...

 

[ClippinWings]

Cheapest way would be to order some PG and VG to thin it with. Water doesn't really work (though users who use VG only thin it with a bit of water). You'll lose some flavor, though.

Yeah I thought it was specific to VG, I've done a ton of reading trying to sort out the ins and outs of vaping.

But figured it wouldn't hurt to ask... LOL

 

[DaveP]

Then, there's always the possibility that you got a hot batch. I guess that can happen from time to time. Another thing you can do is order some low strength of the same flavor and combine them. 18mg cut with an equal amount of 0 nic would give you 9mg strength. Add the two and divide by 2 if the juice volumes are equal.

 

[dormouse]

The only way to cut it and not cut flavor is to buy the same juice in lower nic. 1 part 18 and 1 part 8 = 12mg nic. Or 1 part 0mg and 3 parts 18 = 13.5mg nic.


Low, medium, high are relative. Some places call 18mg high and some call it medium. As someone who has smoked both ultralights and lights (and before those, full-strength), when I started vaping I thought 10-12mg felt the most like the ultralights I used to smoke, and 18mg the most like lights I was smoking at the time I switched to vaping.

But it varies - it depends on how much VG is in your juice (VG dull TH and flavor), how hot your PV is (heat enhances nicotine's hit), how big a drag your PV gives, etc

 

[s3anvap3s]

18 pretty high for you I think....go down to 6mg and 11mg and mix them. I think you'll like the results!!! Let me know what you think!

 

[potholerepairman]

6 mg was almost too high for me leaving merit ultra lights even though I could smoke 2 1/2 packs of them on a night out night.If it feels too strong imo buy some stuff with less effect but then you may not like the reduction of throat hit.I went into the mint world in the begining and that made it work for me .Trying to be chef and foodie per say was too much trouble and did not give me the results of buying a few small samples of lower nic juice. good luck.

 

[wv2win]

NO, 18mg is NOT too high for most people. Starting a thread for other new people to see that infers that it is too high is definitely a problem. How about starting the thread this way: What is the best way to reduce the nicotine level in the eliquid I bought?

 

[Mjolnir07]

Then, there's always the possibility that you got a hot batch. I guess that can happen from time to time. Another thing you can do is order some low strength of the same flavor and combine them. 18mg cut with an equal amount of 0 nic would give you 9mg strength. Add the two and divide by 2 if the juice volumes are equal.

^ This.

When I first got into this I bought about 150ml of nothing but 24mg thinking MAN I SMOKED A LOT I NEED A LOT OF NICOTINE.

I think this is a pretty common dilemma.

Since then I've purchased 8-12-18mg and began cutting the 24's, it's also an excellent way to experiment with flavor blending. I don't recommend cutting it with anything other than more e-liquid, though, but I have heard that using grain alcohol (everclear) and at worst distilled water are acceptable methods in small amounts.

 

[stephpd]

Probably to high a nicotine level, for you. For others, like myself it would be to low. I'm vaping 24 mg with the 36mg for when the cravings for an analog hit. But then I smoked regular cigs, not ultra lights, and hit them hard.

I also don't vape like a crazed monkey, though I guess it's more then what I did with analogs since I don't have to go outside anymore. The Marlboro regulars were 2 in 5 minutes, chain smoking them real quick, then back to work.

 

[sandybeach]

I started with 18 mg.; now after 6 weeks, it gives me the jitters. I am using mostly 12 mg. but 6 mg. at night.

 

[ClippinWings]

The only way to cut it and not cut flavor is to buy the same juice in lower nic. 1 part 18 and 1 part 8 = 12mg nic. Or 1 part 0mg and 3 parts 18 = 13.5mg nic.


Low, medium, high are relative. Some places call 18mg high and some call it medium. As someone who has smoked both ultralights and lights (and before those, full-strength), when I started vaping I thought 10-12mg felt the most like the ultralights I used to smoke, and 18mg the most like lights I was smoking at the time I switched to vaping.

But it varies - it depends on how much VG is in your juice (VG dull TH and flavor), how hot your PV is (heat enhances nicotine's hit), how big a drag your PV gives, etc

THIS is some great info...

I'd say 1 out of every 5 draws has a bit too much TH... It's a bummer cause I love the huge vapor these draws susually contain, but that 1of 5 TH make me damn near choke...

So the Higher Nic could be it...
or if I mix my own I can go with more VG and solve this?

Thanks for all the feedback... didn't expect this many responses this fast...

GREAT community.

 

[ClippinWings]

NO, 18mg is NOT too high for most people. Starting a thread for other new people to see that infers that it is too high is definitely a problem. How about starting the thread this way: What is the best way to reduce the nicotine level in the eliquid I bought?

Really?

I asked an honest question about a problem I am experiencing... even prefacing it in the subject with info (Ultra Light Smoker)...

then some people agree that even as low as 6mg has seemed too high to them coming from Ultralights, others mention possible issues (hot batch)...

and you flame me for it? Really?!

Read the responses... they are all very good and provide great info for a new person who may be experiencing the same concerns... That's how a community should work.

 

[stephpd]

Really?

I asked an honest question about a problem I am experiencing... even prefacing it in the subject with info (Ultra Light Smoker)...

then some people agree that even as low as 6mg has seemed too high to them coming from Ultralights, others mention possible issues (hot batch)...

and you flame me for it? Really?!

Read the responses... they are all very good and provide great info for a new person who may be experiencing the same concerns... That's how a community should work.

Especially in the noob section, and first post.

Don't take it personally.

 

[hairball]

Best way to cut it without flavor loss is to buy the same flavors in a lower mg strength. A simple way to determine the ending result in a 50/50 mix is to add the 2 strengths together then divide in half.

18mg + 6mg = 24mg / 2 = 12mg

Another way to cut it is to get plain vg or pg and mix it but then your end result will be bland flavors.

 

[ClippinWings]

Especially in the noob section, and first post.

Don't take it personally.

No worries... I'm new here... But certainly not new to forums.

 

[ClippinWings]

Best way to cut it without flavor loss is to buy the same flavors in a lower mg strength. A simple way to determine the ending result in a 50/50 mix is to add the 2 strengths together then divide in half.

18mg + 6mg = 24mg / 2 = 12mg

Another way to cut it is to get plain vg or pg and mix it but then your end result will be bland flavors.

yeah, I'm thinking I'll buy some VG, some PG and some extracts... might as well learn about mixing

 

[jamentertainment]

18mg...i vape 24mg and its in my hand almost all day...hummmmm, maybe its time for me to cut back!!!