Hi from 123charlie Need help with DIY juice

[123Charlie]

Need help with DIY juice. I buy premixed 70 P.G and 30 V.G. at 24 mg. nicotine. My flavors are watermelon and black cherry I buy at LNW.Tried LNW and FA flavors. I make 50 ml. at a time. I just can't get the flavor from the mixes. Tried 50 ml. mix and add 5 ml of flavor. Have even tried 10 to 20 ml of flavor. I steep them in hot water for 15 minutes usually 2 times within an hour. The next day there is still very little flavor. Any help would be appreciated. I use a innokin zlide tank with a 1.4 ohm coil about 10 watts to start and work up to 14 watts when the coils flood then back to around 12 watts. I had been making grape flavored juice with good results but my coils don't last a week.

 

[Territoo]

You are using too much flavor. These flavors are meant to be used at 3-5% and you are starting off at 10%. At these levels you are going to just get more flavor, but get a foul or soapy taste. I recommend that you start over and use an ejuice calculator. Start low, like 2%, and go from there. It's easy to add flavor, but hard to take it out. Here's a calculator from liquid nicotine Wholesalers, but there are many more if you don't like this one.

E-Liquid Calculator - Best DIY Vape eJuice Calculator

 

[123Charlie]

You are using too much flavor. These flavors are meant to be used at 3-5% and you are starting off at 10%. At these levels you are going to just get more flavor, but get a foul or soapy taste. I recommend that you start over and use an ejuice calculator. Start low, like 2%, and go from there. It's easy to add flavor, but hard to take it out. Here's a calculator from liquid nicotine Wholesalers, but there are many more if you don't like this one.

E-Liquid Calculator - Best DIY Vape eJuice Calculator

 

[123Charlie]

You are using too much flavor. These flavors are meant to be used at 3-5% and you are starting off at 10%. At these levels you are going to just get more flavor, but get a foul or soapy taste. I recommend that you start over and use an ejuice calculator. Start low, like 2%, and go from there. It's easy to add flavor, but hard to take it out. Here's a calculator from liquid nicotine Wholesalers, but there are many more if you don't like this one.

E-Liquid Calculator - Best DIY Vape eJuice Calculator

I really do not understand these calculators. So I wont to make 50 ml. I would just put in 2.5 ml of flavor for a 5% flavoring ?? .5 ml being 1 %.

 

[123Charlie]

LNW black cherry flavor states
Delicious cherry with a bold dark side.

Recommended Usage:

Standalone Flavor: 10-15%

 

[Superuser187]

Re percentage of juice u have to add to the juice depends from manufacturer but it's very common that u may need to add less or more than the recommended..

Many of us start lower than the manufacturer....and then we did see what we like...
Many times different flavors from same brands may be stronger and u won't like them even at lowest recommended...
This all means it takes time to settle to some juices how u want them and bad part is the steeping cause takes time...
U can follow recipes and start with a kinda simple one..
Myself I don't follow recipies...

About steeping I have heard a lot and read online but anyways..
In my opinion this is like that..
There are some machines that help steep juice that heats it and steer it...very expensive and overkill in my opinion
Some use other devices like ultrasonic and such..
I have tried the warm baths and shakes....but it can ruin the nicotine if u do veeery hot baths and if u do it right yes it can help but still need days...
I actually usually see that after one week is the least steeping I would do........and after 2 weeks is usually when i vape them cause it gets even better....
And some flavours change may change even more after 1month..like it takes long...

It's nice when u make some juice already steeped and then u buy before those end so that the next batch u make will be steeped until u vape it...

So long story shorts u can't judge a juice when hasnt steeped for one week..

That's all from my experience but I am not any old vaper veteran.

I just let it sit in a dark place....I may do a bath at first and shake it and then I just let it sit and shake it a bit every night or something....

 

[123Charlie]

Thanks for your help. I have had good luck in the past with hot water steeping for the past 3 years. Did notice a couple of times after a week I would get up in the morning and the flavor was overwhelming. Had to dilute it. I was doing bubble gum and grape and doing OK but the grape was bad on my coils so I switched to Black cherry since LNW sent me for free 30 ml I and fell in love with it. So I have been trying to make my own BC and watermelon. I should have some store bought juice here in the next few days so I will set this home brew aside for a few weeks and try that.
Again thanks for your help.

 

[Territoo]

Higher flavor concentrations are hard on coils too. Go lower, even lower than the manufacturer's recommendations, let it steep for a couple of weeks, then if it seems to weak, add a little more. Less is more when it comes to flavoring and DIY flavors generally are lower than premade.

 

[Letitia]

If you take flavors too high most will mute. I would suggest you pull 10ml off your last batch and dilute with base then let both steep 2-3 weeks. Not all flavors from the same company will steep at the same rate.

 

[BrotherBob]

I just can't get the flavor from the mixes.

Welcome and glad you joined.
Might like to re post in:
DIY E-Liquid

 

[Katya]

I use a Innokin Zlide tank with a 1.4 ohm coil about 10 watts to start and work up to 14 watts when the coils flood then back to around 12 watts. I had been making grape flavored juice with good results but my coils don't last a week.

Hello Charlie and welcome. I agree with the previous posters on your flavoring strength--go lower. But this caught my eye. Why do you coils flood and only last a week? I've been using Zlides and Zeniths with 1.6 and .8Ω coils for quite some time and my coils never flooded. And a Z coil lasts me for 2-3 weeks, if not longer, using ~3ml of very lightly flavored eliquid.

 

[123Charlie]

I love GRAPE vaping.1.6 ohm coils. But after about 4 days sometimes the draw is very heavy and I have to set my wattage from 12 to 14 for a few puffs to get air flow again.No gurgling. I switch flavors every day. I have 4 devices. All are the same devices.Two with grape or watermelon and two with Black Cherry. So I rotate them to avoid vapor tongue which I got last year. After about a weeks which would be 3 days the coil gets gunked up. I have gone for 3 weeks before on a coil. But usually 10 days [5 days use] they gunk up and I have to replace coils. I think my problem was the 50/50 juice I was using. I now use a 70 PG and 30 VG and have better luck. Also I was using a 12 mg. mix which didn't satisfy my need. I just chain vaped. I have switched back to 24 mg and vape a lot less. I buy my flavor from LNW and the suggested mix was 10 to 15 %. This is what I just mixed and there was no flavor. So I went from 10 % to 20 % and things just got worse. No flavor. I have ordered some factory juice and new base to use so when I make my next batch I can let them steep for a few weeks. I use about 60 ml a month. I usually steep them in hot water two times within two hours and have had good luck. Just cant figure out what has happened with this last batch of black cherry and another of watermelon. I like a sweet vape but don't add any sweetener. I mix 50 ml at a time. People refer me to the juice calculators but I don't understand them and buy my mix already made up and and just add flavor.

 

[Letitia]

Why don't you just try mixing up 3 5ml testers at say 3, 5, 7%? Less waste of resources and would give you a better perspective on concentrate strength.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Welcome to ECF, 123Charlie.