High ohms, low voltage but bad taste

[CloudsOfOrion]

I have a Kanger Protank Mini powered by a Vision Spinner II. I use 2.5 ohm Kanger organic cotton coils. Why does my juice, no matter the PG/VG, taste bad when I try to vape at 4.8V? It even tastes funky when I vape at 4.3V. It doesn't make sense that I have to vape at lower voltages even when I have a high ohm Kanger coil. Any help is appreciated.

 

[Baditude]

Hmmm, up until a year ago I was vaping 3.0 ohm coils at 3.6 volts in a cartotank.

I'm guessing that you are a relatively new vaper.

There's a number of factors which could be causing your problems. How long have your been using that coil in the Kanger? Factory made coils normally need to be replaced between 1 - 3 weeks of use. How many different coils have you tried so far?

Did you prime your new coils before vaping? Did you start out using low voltage and work your way up with a new coil? Once you burn a coil (by not priming correctly or starting out too high in voltage) it is ruined no matter what you do thereafter.

How many flavors/e-liquids have you tried? How many different brands? Flavors/e-liquids/brands are not created equal. You may have better luck with a different brand and flavor.


It's not used much any longer, but many used to use the Ohm Plus Two Formula. You take the ohm of the coil, add the number "2", and the sum would be the voltage to use. 2.0 (ohm) + 2 = 4 volts

The BEST way, though, is to vape per taste, not by any formula. Always start at a low voltage, and gradually increase until you get a burnt taste, then back down to a lower sweet spot.

 

[roxynoodle]

4.8v is pretty high. I bet 3.8-4.2v would vape better.

 

[edyle]

I have a Kanger Protank Mini powered by a Vision Spinner II. I use 2.5 ohm Kanger organic cotton coils. Why does my juice, no matter the PG/VG, taste bad when I try to vape at 4.8V? It even tastes funky when I vape at 4.3V. It doesn't make sense that I have to vape at lower voltages even when I have a high ohm Kanger coil. Any help is appreciated.

1: Because 4.8 volts is too high for that particular coil.
2: Knowing the ohms alone does not tell you all that much. It might be a thinner wire than the 2.0 ohm coil.
3: Generally speaking the typical coil is intended to work for around 3.7 volts

 

[93gc40]

What is you PG/VG ratio. That tank can't waick much over 50/50. Is the cotton too tightly packed/wrapped. Cotton need to be pretty loose in a protank. ARE YOU DRY BURNING, before installing the cotton. I assume you are DIY on those coils, didn't think Kanger offered cotton.

Your vision won't overpower that atty and coil. Wife runs hers at 10 watts or 5volts. That is about as much as the 2.4ohm, you might want to stay below 4v or drop to a lower ohm coil. 1.8-2 ohms was my sweet spot, vaping at 8-12watts with the Protank. BUT I built it as a Vertical coil.

 

[EBates]

You do know that once you've burned the cotton in your atomizer that all bets are off. The vape will be bad from that point on.

 

[gmoney$]

replace wick/coils. vape much lower voltage. Your notion about higher ohn = higher volts is in fact the opposite

 

[crxess]

You just need to learn to Tune your Vape according to your equipment.
Always start slightly low and adjust up to find the Best vape without burning things up.

benefit of your Coil Choice - Longer Battery Life.
Tune it down and enjoy what you have.

Eventually, pick up a more open, lower ohm system with a Regulated mod and step up the game if you like.

 

[mcclintock]

1: Because 4.8 volts is too high for that particular coil.
2: Knowing the ohms alone does not tell you all that much. It might be a thinner wire than the 2.0 ohm coil.
3: Generally speaking the typical coil is intended to work for around 3.7 volts

Exactly. Actually the Spinner is a good battery for that clearomizer because it goes down so low, I recommend 3.4-3.7 V for that coil, 3-3.4 for the 1.8 ohm, but also 3.4-3.7 for the 2.2 ohm version because it has thicker wire than the 2.5 and one more turn than the 1.8. More perhaps with an airflow control/increaser or short drags.

I've used a 2.4 ohm coil at 22 watts, ~7 volts but that was a big coil, wick and device, just thin wire. Also .6 ohms at 11 watts, ~2.6 volts.

 

[CloudsOfOrion]

Thanks for the responses everyone. To answer a few questions: yes, I am relatively new, the coil in question was two days old, I don't DIY, I use 50/50, I do prime and I always start at 3.3V when I use a new coil. I guess I'm just getting bad luck with coils. My thinking was with a higher ohm coil, I could vape at higher voltages without the juice tasting like ....

 

[Bunnykiller]

its a K anger... not made for hi volt vaping... when you can, upgrade

 

[mcclintock]

Thanks for the responses everyone. To answer a few questions: yes, I am relatively new, the coil in question was two days old, I don't DIY, I use 50/50, I do prime and I always start at 3.3V when I use a new coil. I guess I'm just getting bad luck with coils. My thinking was with a higher ohm coil, I could vape at higher voltages without the juice tasting like ....

It's not bad luck, it's the way it's designed. Those clearos will create flavor with some juices at 5.3 watts that nothing else can touch except for some of the other tanks in that series which use the same coil and have the same limitations. High power devices require pulling large amounts of air through them to work properly, that can also be great if that's what you want, but if you don't pull the air the power capability drops in almost exact proportion despite having relatively huge coils.

Some of the newer tanks have different coils designed for more power when you use the low resistance versions. The original Protank series seem more to result in the same power but at somewhat different voltage. Kanger intended them to run at 3.7 volts but I find they miscalculated by about .2 and the difference is substantial because it runs right at the edge.

 

[93gc40]

You might also be starving the coil with 50/50. Those atties work best with as little VG as you can tolerate. They are designed to wick 100%PG. At the time they were introduced, HIGH VG was anything with more than 30%VG. 50/50 was considered ultra HIGH VG.

 

[edyle]

Thanks for the responses everyone. To answer a few questions: yes, I am relatively new, the coil in question was two days old, I don't DIY, I use 50/50, I do prime and I always start at 3.3V when I use a new coil. I guess I'm just getting bad luck with coils. My thinking was with a higher ohm coil, I could vape at higher voltages without the juice tasting like ....

If you are wrapping your own coils then adding more wraps will give you higher resistance and the coil will require a higher voltage.
But when you buy 2 coils, the higher ohm coil might just be a thinner wire and work at the same voltage as the lower ohm coil.