high voltage vaping - I'm doing it wrong

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jb007gd

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Hi all,
I have tried various juices - straight VG, PG, domestic and Chinese. I've used cartos, Stardust clearos, old school atomizers, evods, and must recently a Protank. Almost all my delivery devices are 2.6 ohms. I have one low resistance dripping Atty too.

For the life of me, I have never ever been able to crank my voltage up past 4 volts without turning any juice into burnt, yucky vapor. I'm assuming there's user error on my part, because I really don't understand how folks vape at high voltages?

What am I doing wrong, any ideas?
 

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It's possible that you are not properly filling your juice delivery devices. I have a picture dictionary of the more common juice delivery devices in this article in my blog. You'll find a link to a video for each device that shows the proper technique in filling them: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uice-delivery-attachments-page2.html#comments

You didn't mention which battery device that you are using. Some of the Chinese-made V-V / V-W mods use a PWM boost circuit to acheive their high voltage which can deliver a higher voltage than what you actually set, sometimes as much as an entire 1.0 volt. So you could theoretically set your device to 4.0 volts and it actually be delivering 5 volts.

And, it's entirely possible that you just prefer a "cooler" vape. Higher voltage is not for everyone.
 
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Well as fortune would have it, I pulled out my homemade Tennessee Cured that had been steeping for the last few weeks. I popped some in an evod and wow - so far I've got my eVic up to 9 watts (4.74 volts) and it keeps tasting better the higher I go! :)

Today is a big win:
This is the first DIY juice that I'm truly proud of, (props to Scubatadan for the recipe)
I'm enjoying the warmth of a high voltage vape,
My brand new eVic is doing a great job flexing it's muscles!!!

Good times! :)
 

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Sometimes atties are less than they say. And like badiude said re batteries plus some juices, especially high VG tends to burn more easily type of thing. I find 3.5 for 5 volt vaping ranges are good. 2.4 seems standard vaping but it really should be good at 4.00- 4.2 atties at 2.00 are still functioning like cartos at 1.8 in my personal opinion. Also, like Baditude said, wicking problem but then its not so much burnt tasting as really just ointolerable

Hi all,
I have tried various juices - straight VG, PG, domestic and Chinese. I've used cartos, Stardust clearos, old school atomizers, evods, and must recently a Protank. Almost all my delivery devices are 2.6 ohms. I have one low resistance dripping Atty too.

For the life of me, I have never ever been able to crank my voltage up past 4 volts without turning any juice into burnt, yucky vapor. I'm assuming there's user error on my part, because I really don't understand how folks vape at high voltages?

What am I doing wrong, any ideas?

Oops you have 2.6
re read
sounds like juiceproblem after re reading
 

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some juices just don't like to much heat. with high resistance attys the coils are wrapped with very thin wire, when hi volts are passed through a thin wire it produces a lot of heat to the wick. this is why rebuildables are popular and especially a thicker wire for the coil. with a thicker wire, lower resistance and lower voltages along with higher wattages makes the temperature at the wick more spread out then a thinner wire producing a better flavor, its really about the wires temperature. juices that might otherwise burn at higher voltages will shine the other way.
 

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some juices just don't like to much heat. with high resistance attys the coils are wrapped with very thin wire, when hi volts are passed through a thin wire it produces a lot of heat to the wick. this is why rebuildables are popular and especially a thicker wire for the coil. with a thicker wire, lower resistance and lower voltages along with higher wattages makes the temperature at the wick more spread out then a thinner wire producing a better flavor, its really about the wires temperature. juices that might otherwise burn at higher voltages will shine the other way.

Thanks for the info. I just rebuilt my first atomizer (yay!) using 32ga "Kanthal A-1 round" wire. I think this on the thinner side, bit I've only seen 30 and 32ga offered so my experience is quite limited.

If I'm understanding you correctly, I should look for thicker wire if I want to really delve into vaping at higher voltages. Is that correct?
 

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Thanks for the info. I just rebuilt my first atomizer (yay!) using 32ga "Kanthal A-1 round" wire. I think this on the thinner side, bit I've only seen 30 and 32ga offered so my experience is quite limited.

If I'm understanding you correctly, I should look for thicker wire if I want to really delve into vaping at higher voltages. Is that correct?

actually if you think you will be into high voltage vaping then 32g is the wire. thinner wire is higher resistance, the higher the number the higher the resistance. I think of it like this, thinner wire doesn't have a lot of space in it so current has a harder time to pass through it, thus there is high resistance within this wire. a thicker wire has more space in it and current has an easier time to flow through it, thus low resistance. the lower the resistance, the lower the gauge number, 28g is thicker then 32g. now if your going to turn up the volts you need a coil that has a higher resistance, likewise if you wanted to vape at lower voltages it would be better if your coil was lower resistance. imo it isn't about the voltage but more to do with power or the wattage. now I only do rebuildables and my preferred power or wattage is between 12 to 20 watts(depending on the time of day & mood), and there is 2 ways to get to these higher wattages. one way to get to a higher wattage is to have a low resistance coil & lower voltage & thicker wire or high resistance coil & high voltages & thinner wire, both will achieve high wattages. imo rebuildables perform better at low resistances, and I much prefer a thicker wire. theres a lot more to it and feel free to pm me with anymore questions. sorry to everyone to have gone on about this in a juice section.
 

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been vaping 2.6-3.0 cartos at 4.8-5 volts for a couple months now without issues

and you shouldn't have any issues because the wattage you are vaping is only about 8 watts of power, which is probably your sweet spot and that's the most important thing. now some, including myself, vape at much higher wattages. I prefer about 16 watts average, and find that at low resistances the juice flavor is much better.
 
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