High wattage vaping

[nufan]

I do not understand how people vape at wattages like 9,11,15, etc.
I use a Evic, protank 2 with 2.2 ohms coils and anything above 6 watts just tastes burnt. My normal vape range in 5-5.5 watts (3.31v-3.47v)...How are you all vaping higher and not burning your juice??

Oh P.S.-juice I've been using is Mt Baker Vapor 50/50 18 mg

 

[eMats]

You should be able to vape at over 6 watts without a burnt taste. It's not your juice, it could be your Protank. It could be that the head isn't getting enough juice to the coil. Unless you build your own coil/wick system, it's difficult to dial it in. Some juices need more wicking than others. You should get to double digit wattage without a problem on the Protank - you just have to experiment with your system. Once you dial it in, you kind of get a feel as to your next build.


Edit: Basically, you need to build your own coil wick to get good performance with the Protank - in most cases, the stock heads won't do it. It'll save you money down the road too.

 

[MarcusV]

What is the vv equivalent to 9,11,15 w? Provari for years watts are from mars so far. Burnt taste for me could begin at 3.9v on a sub 2.0 coil.


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[nufan]

What is the vv equivalent to 9,11,15 w? Provari for years watts are from mars so far. Burnt taste for me could begin at 3.9v on a sub 2.0 coil.


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9w= 4.44v; 11w=4.92v......using a 2.2 ohm coil

 

[edyle]

I do not understand how people vape at wattages like 9,11,15, etc.
I use a Evic, protank 2 with 2.2 ohms coils and anything above 6 watts just tastes burnt. My normal vape range in 5-5.5 watts (3.31v-3.47v)...How are you all vaping higher and not burning your juice??

Oh P.S.-Juice I've been using is Mt Baker Vapor 50/50 18 mg

dual coil

2 coils each burning at 5 watts total 10 watts.

And with rebuildables there's more space to make BIG coils

 

[edyle]

What is the vv equivalent to 9,11,15 w? Provari for years watts are from mars so far. Burnt taste for me could begin at 3.9v on a sub 2.0 coil.


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depends on the resistance.

watts = volts x volts / ohms.

3.9 x 3.9 / 2 = 7.6 watts

 

[nufan]

dual coil

2 coils each burning at 5 watts total 10 watts.

And with rebuildables there's more space to make BIG coils

ahh, I don't use dual coils

 

[Stosh]

What is the vv equivalent to 9,11,15 w? Provari for years watts are from mars so far. Burnt taste for me could begin at 3.9v on a sub 2.0 coil.

For the OP's 2.2Ω coil it would be about 4.4, 4.9, 5.7 volts...way too hot for my taste also.

Vape the power, voltage, wattage that tastes best to YOU, that's really the important factor, not some technical numbering....

 

[Ryedan]

I do not understand how people vape at wattages like 9,11,15, etc.
I use a Evic, protank 2 with 2.2 ohms coils and anything above 6 watts just tastes burnt. My normal vape range in 5-5.5 watts (3.31v-3.47v)...How are you all vaping higher and not burning your juice??

Oh P.S.-Juice I've been using is Mt Baker Vapor 50/50 18 mg

It depends on your devices and juices. Most clearomizers like the PT with a clean head (wick and coil) will run up to about 7 watts with most juices, maybe 8 maximum. That's for stock wick and coils. When they get gunked up the max wattage goes down in all hardware. I find cartomizers typically go up to about 12 watts with no burning when they are clean. I run up to 25 watts in my RBAs and RDAs and they give clean flavor and are actually cool vapes.

It all depends on having enough air flow, efficient enough wicking and coils with enough surface area to keep the watts per square inch low enough for the power you are running. This is why people get so much performance improvement from recoiling, rewicking and improving air flow in their stock clearo heads.

 

[Mikie]

I wondered this too. I use stock Kanger coils(2.2 ohm) and was always below 4v's. But I started playing, and I can vape around 4.4v's if I only take 3 second slow draw, release the button for a sec while still inhaling, and then another 3 second slow draw.... no burnt taste. I do get more flavor, more vapor and maybe more nic. I haven't decided if it is worth it, because when I have a moment and go past a few seconds with the power on, buuuuurn. All stock Kanger stuff tho, rebuilders are in a whole other world

 

[Topacka]

It's all about airflow, wick and coil structure. On clearos with stock heads I wouldn't vape above 7 or 8 watts, cartos I'd push to 12, and on my rda/rba's I vape usually 35 watts, maybe 40. The juice doesn't burn, it's the wick, every time.

 

[alternatifer]

I've rebuild my T3S using a cotton and 1,3 ohm coil, this works best for me at 8 watt.

Vapor and flavor is nice but takes a lot of juice: )

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[Stosh]

Most vapers are very satisfied using between 5-10 watts, happily getting their nicotine, but if you do want to try high wattage vaping you need to upgrade your equipment. Don't do it halfway, a piddley 30-45 watts, for high wattage use the best -- The Legal Vape 4000

 

[Nataani]

It's all about airflow, wick and coil structure. On clearos with stock heads I wouldn't vape above 7 or 8 watts, cartos I'd push to 12, and on my rda/rba's I vape usually 35 watts, maybe 40. The juice doesn't burn, it's the wick, every time.

What he said, its a balancing act between watts, wicking and airflow.

Juice is only going to burn if too small of an amount is subjected to too high of a heat. If you can supply lots of juice very quickly and cool it down enough, it wont burn.

I vape on my RDA on 0.2 ohm coils with my latest build. That comes out to:
P = V² / R
P = 4.2² / 0.2
P = 88.2 watts

The trick is that first of all they are dual coils, so the power is half on either side. Second, the coil diameters are 1/8th inch, so I can get ALOT of juice to those coils. Third is I have huge airholes, 5/32 inch, which cools down the coils rapidly.

So with my current build I have a crap ton of watts, BUT, tons of juice running through them with a huge amount of air flow cooling it all down. The sheer amount of flavor I get makes any clearo/carto taste incredibly mild.

 

[Nataani]

Oh, I should mention that I vape on my protanks at around 9.8 watts. Cant get big coils or much air flow in them.

 

[beckdg]

it's not the juice burning in the kanger unit. it's more than likely the white rubber grommet between the post pin and the 510 connection where the coil legs are terminated. probably getting hot legs and actually burning rubber. it's a foul taste indeed.

if you're willing to put the work in, the kanger protanks can vape up to 15 watts for short stents. it's a lot more work than it's worth, but it's doable.

your lucky if you get 8 watts consistently out of the stock or replacement coil and wick setups.

 

[edyle]

Oh, I should mention that I vape on my protanks at around 9.8 watts. Cant get big coils or much air flow in them.

Single or dual coil

If single coil, is that just stock coil or modified coil;
and is that high PG and high nic.

 

[Nataani]

Single or dual coil

If single coil, is that just stock coil or modified coil;
and is that high PG and high nic.

I own a protank 3 dual coil but dont like it. I personally favor the protank 2s, single coil, so much so that I own five of them.

It is actually possible to build dual coils in the protank 2s, I file out the slots on the atomizer cup to about twice their normal width. You can then build dual coils side by side.

I rebuild all of my coils, for all of my devices. I - hate - silica!

I base the 9.8 figure on a fully charged battery (4.2v) on a 1.8 ohm coil.

My protank coil build:
1/16th internal diameter
8 wraps contact coil
30 AWG kanthal A-1
1 strand ekru peaches n cream cotton yarn
No flavor wicks

In my protanks I vape almost exclusively 70/30 pg/vg at 12mg.

On drippers I vape as close to 100% vg as I can get.


PS. I drill out one of the airholes on all protank 2s to 1/16th

 

[TrentTC]

I vape my protank at 15 watts no problem. Build 1 ohm microcoils with 26 or 28 gauge kanthal and use with a mech. It's all about wicking. Get juice to feed fast enough and you won't get burning.

 

[edyle]

I own a protank 3 dual coil but dont like it. I personally favor the protank 2s, single coil, so much so that I own five of them.

It is actually possible to build dual coils in the protank 2s, I file out the slots on the atomizer cup to about twice their normal width. You can then build dual coils side by side.

I rebuild all of my coils, for all of my devices. I - hate - silica!

I base the 9.8 figure on a fully charged battery (4.2v) on a 1.8 ohm coil.

My protank coil build:
1/16th internal diameter
8 wraps contact coil
30 AWG kanthal A-1
1 strand ekru peaches n cream cotton yarn
No flavor wicks

In my protanks I vape almost exclusively 70/30 pg/vg at 12mg.

On drippers I vape as close to 100% vg as I can get.


PS. I drill out one of the airholes on all protank 2s to 1/16th

And finally just to clarify this statement:

I base the 9.8 figure on a fully charged battery (4.2v) on a 1.8 ohm coil.

Is that a 1.8 ohm dual coil.