higher VG juice with a 50/50 base??

[SurphKid11]

so i have a 50/50 base nicotine and i have both vg and pg and ive been making 50/50 juices or jucies with a higher pg ratio but i want to make one with a higher vg. a 60/40 vg/pg and my flavorings (TFA PG) add up to 30% total and in the calculator it says the pg would have to be negative. this is what im getting on the calculator. this is to make 12ml with a 50/50 base and target ratio 60/40.

Nicotine e-juice 48 mg - 8ml

PG dilutant - -3.4ml (negative 3.4ml)

VG dilutant - 3.2ml

TFA Whipped Cream - 3ml

Flavor 2 - 0.6ml

Flavor 3 - 0.6ml

so its saying i cant make it but can i just add in 3.4ml of vg (in place of the negative amount of pg) along with the 3.2ml of vg it says and would i get my 60/40 ratio that way? or is it not possible since my flavorings are pg and at a high percentage?

 

[dannyv45]

What mg is your NIC base. Your post is not very clear.

Use the ejuice me up calculator and make it easy on yourself.

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[SurphKid11]

What mg is your NIC base. Your post is not very clear.

Use the ejuice me up calculator and make it easy on yourself.

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

48mg and my target mg is 32. i put it in the claculator and what i showed is what the calculator says for my recipe. its saying negative pg.

i have 50/50 nic base at 48mg my target nic is 32mg
i want to make 12ml
my target ratio is 60/40 vg/pg
my flavoring adds up to 30%

it wont let me make that ratio with a 5050 base and with that high % of flavoring (since theyre pg) it says to add negative amount of pg. my question is if i replace that negative amount of pg by adding that amount with vg will that make up my ratio. sorry if its confusing, try putting it into this calc. e-Liquid Calculator

 

[dannyv45]

That means that your nic base must be at least 100mg to mix down to 32 in a 60vg/40 mixture when adding 30% flavor. You must remember your flavor also has PG in it which adds to the PG content. 30% seems to be a lot of flavor. Rule of thumb is you should not go over 20% total flavor. You can adjusting your target NIC down to 8mg that will work.

 

[SurphKid11]

That means that your nic base must be at least 60mg to mix down to 32 in a 50/50 mixture when adding 30% flavor. You must remember your flavor also has PG in it which adds to the PG content. 30% seems to be a lot of flavor. Rule of thumb is you should not go over 20% total flavor..

i know its a lot of flavoring, its a mixture of 3 flavors the one is 20% since its a very weak flavor so i have to use a high percentage. so basically i cant make it with 48mg 50/50 base. i guess i have to lower the nic content or use less flavoring.

 

[dannyv45]

Refresh your browser and re-read my post I edited it.

 

[dannyv45]

Actually I based it on 60pg and 40 vg. What you want is 60vg and 40pg so the best target strangth you can get is 8mg.

 

[dannyv45]

If you want a stronger nic do 60pg/40vg and you can get 28mg nic.

 

[Road_House]

Don't know how big your stash of 50/50 48 mg/ml nic base is but if you want to experiment with higher vg mixes, consider getting a 120 ml bottle of 60 mg/ml VG nic. At your target strength of 32 mg/ml you can mix up 226 ml of juice from that bottle with a much greater flexibility of pg/vg ratios.

Minimum pg will be dictated by your flavor percentage. Maximum pg would be 47%

Minimum vg will be 53% and maximum would be 100% minus your pg flavor percentage

Lowering your target nic level will also add more flexibility. 32 mg/ml? WOW

 

[Train2]

You may get closer with a larger batch.
You're trying to dilute your base from 48 to 32, and your at 50/50 and adding more PG - the problem is then there's only room to add a little non-nic VG - not enough to reach the blend you want.
If you ran your numbers for 30 ml, there'd be more room...

 

[Road_House]

You may get closer with a larger batch.
You're trying to dilute your base from 48 to 32, and your at 50/50 and adding more PG - the problem is then there's only room to add a little non-nic VG - not enough to reach the blend you want.
If you ran your numbers for 30 ml, there'd be more room...

It's has nothing to do with the total ml of the mix. It's all about the percentages which remain constant no matter how big the batch.

In the OP's case, his nic base has to be 66% of the total to achieve his 32 mg/ml target. Since it is 50/50 that means the nic base contributes 33% pg. Add the 30% flavoring and he's up to 63% pg.

It can't work, no matter how big the batch is.

 

[dannyv45]

It's has nothing to do with the total ml of the mix. It's all about the percentages which remain constant no matter how big the batch.

In the OP's case, his nic base has to be 66% of the total to achieve his 32 mg/ml target. Since it is 50/50 that means the nic base contributes 33% pg. Add the 30% flavoring and he's up to 63% pg.

It can't work, no matter how big the batch is.

Yep the only way he can make what he needs is with 100mg NIC or larger PG%