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I haven't ordered the bloog cartos they've been out of blanks for months now and the manu issues are scaring me off anyway. Nhaler's are the ones I'm talking about and I know when the carto's dry and what that tastes like and that taste is quite different. Well, anyway, I could go on but don't want to argue with you. Overall I'm happy enough with NHaler's cartos to order more even with getting a few "duds" which I'm still pretty convinced are just out of spec on the low end of the ohms range and causing burning of some material in the carto or my juice or something. Drew even agreed with me that is likely the cause. If you're right that its dryness then the juice must not be getting to the coil well on those then because that filler is definitely saturated. Besides a dry carto has a different kind of nasty taste.

The O-ring on my Nhalers is clear silicone, no need to take it apart, I think I can see it peeking out from behind the post. And, if it matters, I am smoking 100%VG juices and not a wide variety lately so it could very well be my juice but I have no plans in changing my juice to match my equipment... rather the other way around.

Anyway... thanks for the info as always.

Hehe what ? argue? No you were generalising horiz cartos, and i wanted to shout out, cus Kangers ohm ratings are NOT all over the place like bloog-/nhalers... So NOONE has to worry about burning or bad taste. I said they could taste a bit of when dry, and you cant really argue with me there, cus you havent tried em...

I never said the ones you have dont burn or have to low ohm for your batt.. How would i know. Aperantly some of them do. I had a 5 pack of bloogs and not one was like the one before.. all 5 diff experiences..
The 60+ kangers i used, ALL were exactly like the one before...

So to recap, i havent said you didnt have to be aware of the ohm rating on the nhalers, or that it was just dry or whatever...( how did you read that in to my post?) Just that whoever is lucky enough to find kangers dont have to worry bout ohm.. So therfore be careful when generalising.... Dont think i can be clearer. Hope everyone gets what i was trying to say..

edited my other post for clarification.
 
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Hehe what ? argue? No you were generalising horiz cartos, and i wanted to shout out, cus Kangers ohm ratings are NOT all over the place like bloog-/nhalers... So NOONE has to worry about burning or bad taste. I said they could taste a bit of when dry, and you cant really argue with me there, cus you havent tried em...

I never said the ones you have dont burn or have to low ohm for your batt.. How would i know. Aperantly some of them do. I had a 5 pack of bloogs and not one was like the one before.. all 5 diff experiences..
The 60+ kangers i used, ALL were exactly like the one before...

So to recap, i havent said you didnt have to be aware of the ohm rating on the nhalers, or that it was just dry or whatever...( how did you read that in to my post?) Just that whoever is lucky enough to find kangers dont have to worry bout ohm.. So therfore be careful when generalising.... Dont think i can be clearer. Hope everyone gets what i was trying to say..

edited my other post for clarification.

My bad.. thought the 60 cartos you referred to were Nhaler cartos and not Kangers.... hence my disagreement. So now I must find these elusive Kanger horizontals then, now that you've peaked my interest. ;-)

Btw, what do you know about the horizontal "Tru" cartos on vaporsetc.com? Someone posted a link in this thread and I've looked at them before in curiosity. Those are yet another manu or just Kangers in disguise?

Despite the occasional stinker I'm still really liking the new NHaler cartos on the bloog MF batt. Because the batt is regulated it produces a very consistent vaping experience and the tighter draw with these horizontals is a good match I think. The only complaint I might have (and this may be true of other horizontals or it may be a low ohm thing), is that I drain a carto in a LOT less time than I did with my vertical cartos and the taste and hit is MUCH better on a full carto. Big drop off at the 50% mark I think. So much so that I inevitably smoke them only to about the 40% mark before changing to another fresh one. So I end up refilling more frequently. Can't help myself. ;-) Of course I could go to the Jumbos and solve that problem but don't want to make that jump yet.

Anyway, find me some Kanger horizontals in the states and maybe I'll cross ship em to you if you can't get them over there. ;-)
 

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Btw, what do you know about the horizontal "Tru" cartos on vaporsetc.com? Someone posted a link in this thread and I've looked at them before in curiosity. Those are yet another manu or just Kangers in disguise?

Its my understanding that they are made by Trueman or Truman - I thinks its another manu.

I haven't had any issues with the horizontals I've tried (bloog/nhaler/ikenvape/tru's). I could be in the minority or I've been lucky. I have used verticals and I just like the draw on the horizontals better.
 

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I know nothing about tru's..
Both Nhaler and bloog has talked about a vendor in EU, but nowt has come of it yet.. I just ordered some ce2's to see if i can get something that resembles more the horiz.. It doesnt matter who sends it, if your over a certain amount of money theyll slap a fee onit.. But thanks anyway. Many have been kind to offer to help.

It normal you finding you have to fill more often.. they run hotter, and need to be properly soaked all the time.

So Im finding it obscurly coincedental that the moment the bloogs came out, the original horizkanger were nowhere to be found.. Ive wrote about them everywhere, but they are like sunk in the ground... The small differences between them are key, i think, as the kangers dont have issues with vg.. Ive even wrote about it, on bloog forum.. No responce.. other than Leaford has started to write several places that he wont use Kanger because of the sanitation at their factory... Coincedence? Or a smart way to get people to stop asking q's about kanger??
Issues or not, their carto works with all thicknesses of juices, so they have something, others should take notice of.. At this point after all the false advertising and statements, i can pick apart, I aint trusting any of the vendors.. ANd maybe not so smart saying kangers unsanitary when the company you work for still sells kangers, as the old model... If im wrong, hey that just what you get out of not stating manufacturer. Pretty shure i saw one of them mention the fusion is a kanger..

I think the bloog/nhales manu copied the horiz idea from Kanger, and made something as close as they could get. To bad they cant handle thicker juices, so havent copied them perfectly... I also believe that has something to do with them not telling the manus name..

I strongly think all customers should demand manufacturer name from all vendors.. Too many have experienced finding a thing they love, only to, after a while, have somthing else sent when ordering same thing. Without notice.... It happend at LF for me twice. Bloog are sending out batts with new caps and diff behavior when charging, causing all kinds of confusion. Giving them selves more unnessesary work, with having to answer the same q's 100 times..
No more turbos, creators, wows and all that crap. Just manu name and ohm rating, thank you very much. Is that to much to ask?

Like this tru thing now? Manu name or vendors name for same carto all others have??
 

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Ok i just went and looked at vaporsetc... OMG they have alot of cartos... Heres what i know:

The tru ones are either a totally diff manu than we've seen before, OR they are smoore.. Smoore packs are exactly like these. They have smaller, shorter condoms, like these... BUT smoores are a longer carto than bogebloognhalerkanger. Cant see lenght on the pic. They are vertical coil.

The bottom ones, in the blisterpacks must certainly be kanger, SO only q is .......are they horiz or vertical? Anyone tryem?
Awsome they state ohm ratings! well done vaporsetc.

I want lower ohm cartos... that looks like a great vendor.. To bad i cant order there.... ohm and manu stated.. and all those diff colours.. geez you americans are SO lucky..
 

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Ok i just went and looked at vaporsetc... OMG they have alot of cartos... Heres what i know:

The tru ones are either a totally diff manu than we've seen before, OR they are smoore.. Smoore packs are exactly like these. They have smaller, shorter condoms, like these... BUT smoores are a longer carto than bogebloognhalerkanger. Cant see lenght on the pic. They are vertical coil.

The bottom ones, in the blisterpacks must certainly be kanger, SO only q is .......are they horiz or vertical? Anyone tryem?
Awsome they state ohm ratings! well done vaporsetc.

I want lower ohm cartos... that looks like a great vendor.. To bad i cant order there.... ohm and manu stated.. and all those diff colours.. geez you americans are SO lucky..

Ths higher ohm's, 3.3, are the horizontals. I've tried them, and if you click on them it does say horizontal in the description. I haven't found any other horizontals, other than the ones I've linked to. So I haven't found any that are kanger that I can figure anyway. Truman is EGO-T RIVA EGO 510 ECIG i510 ECIG TRUEMAN Electronic Cigarette Wholesale and Retail DSE801 DSE901 DSE103 RN4081 DSE084 M401 510 USB PASSTHROUGH -. Maybe a manu?

I hope you find the kanger horizontals-makes me want some too :)
 

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yeah i like the nHalers too but they work best on the regulated bloog MF batt which I only have one of... when i put them on my kangers some of the ones on the lower end of the ohm spectrum scorch or run too hot, while others work fabulously with a powerhouse hit that despite the old style trigger is so strong i don't need a primer puff. The inconsistency factor has me constantly changing cartos or batts to try and get the right combo though. Since I'm on the go a lot this makes me have to carry more cartos and batts around than I care to and fill more frequently. When I was using all V4L cartos I would only fill maybe once or twice a week. Now it's every every other night at least. Maybe i just need to ditch the old batts and go all bmf or some similar regulated tech. kinda been waiting to see what Drew @ nhaler keeps promising is on the way in terms of his new batts which i expect to be the same tech as the bmf's but hopefully at less cost and at the very least not having that flipping $7 shipping charge. :-\ I wonder if the DS batts are regulated? some reviews I read still put the BMF ahead of the DS and I don't like how many describe the DS as "airy". I like a somewhat tight draw.
 

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I'm in the same boat - I only have 1 MF, and when I put the cartos on a freshly charged V4L battery it has that burnt taste which does go away after a few minutes but its still aggravating. I'm waiting to see what Drew comes up with too. The only thing is I like the feel of the MF, the finish on it. Not sure if anyone will copy that. I can't find any reviews on Drew's batts, which is odd - there is one out there on his PCC kit, and she did do one on his batts but she isn't a native kr808d1 user so it wasn't overly helpful.

Is "DS" the diamond series from V4L? I have some, and the stealths. I actually am rotating between the short MF & the short stealth and they are pretty comparable. I did find the regular size DS to be airier than the MF, but just by a little bit. I think the way to go is get the similar tech batts plus cartos, but its hard to find a vendor that actually has both in stock right now.

And who knows - V4L is working on their own factory right now, I'm sure that sooner or later they'll have the same tech stuff too. In the meantime its just frustrating to mix and match because of stock issues.
 
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