Highest wattage used by ECF member?

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John D in CT

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My favorite vape is a 1.5ohm dual coil at 6V...comes out to be 22.5 watts.

Expounding on, not disagreeing with, what you said: Just to be clear; 22.5 watts allocated to two coils - 11-ish per coil = nice vape.

From my point of view, if you have two coils each producing 12W, then you have 24W. Unless I'm missing something?

Coils don't "produce" watts though, they consume them. Two coils consuming a total of 24 watts would have each one at about 12 watts = good. 24 watts going to a single coil = obviously way too hot, unless you're trying to vape asphalt.

Well the wattage (power, heat) is 12w, but the only thing that is multiplied at all is vapor volume. Since the power is the same from both coils you're cooking the juice at 12w.

Something doesn't smell right here, but I can't put my finger on it. Could be fine?

Absolutly not!
Each coil is running at 12watts. Push 24 watts through a 3ohm single coil if you think it is even close to the same thing, smoke would be coming out your ears!

Since 24 watts on a single coil 3.0 ohm coil would take about 8.48 volts, yeah, that's a lot. But having said that, it's really irrelevant how you get to 24 watts on that single coil. Regardless of the resistance of the wires that the 24 watts are doing their thing on, I think it might be useful to think of watts simply as heat. 24 units of heat, and it really doesn't matter what combination of volts and ohms created them.

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    Since 24 watts on a single coil 3.0 ohm coil would take about 8.48 volts, yeah, that's a lot. But having said that, it's really irrelevant how you get to 24 watts on that single coil. Regardless of the resistance of the wires that the 24 watts are doing their thing on, I think it might be useful to think of watts simply as heat. 24 units of heat, and it really doesn't matter what combination of volts and ohms created them.

    I agree with that, I only used 3ohms as an example because the discussion was about 1.5ohm DCC's being 24watts @ 6v, and 12watts to each of two coils is different than 24watts to a single coil.
     
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    Hate to tell you this but a 1.5ohm EMDCC running at 4.7v is only suppling 7.4watts to each coil which is right in the ball park with what many think is about perfect. The EMDCC has 3ohm coils in it, not 1.5ohm coils. The coils are wired in parallel, so you have to calculate the wattage to each coil separately.

    The reason a DCC has the illusion of being a stronger vape is because your nicotine consumption is greater. Huge cloud of vapor = more nicotine consumed.

    And I don't use dual coils all the time because the Darwin can only push them so far. I actually prefer 2.5 ohm single coils at 9.0 watts. I've been doing this a good bit longer and know that many vets found right around 5.0 volts is the sweet spot. The dual coils make a nice change of pace but when I have used them on 5 & 6 volt PV's they perform the best.

    And I don't agree necessarilly that your nicotine comsuption is greater. Your total nic consumption will not necessarilly be greater depending on how much you vape, which in my case is less when I vape around 5 volts. My "cloulds of vaper" are the same whether I'm using a dual coil or a single coil. And my eliquid usage is the same regardless of what cartos I use. There is no way you can prove that assumption, which makes it irrelevant to the discussion.
     
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    The highest watts I have vaped at would be 36.5 watts. This was done on my reo grand stacking 2 3.7 volt batteries on a cisco 306 1.5 LR attie. Did I like it? Heck yes I loved it! I was vaping pharmboys black sundae juice (which is awesome at high wattages). My daily wattage is somewhere in the neighborhood of 18 - 26 watts. What can I say.. Some juices just love high wattages :).

    Wow that's alot of power! What's the next mod... an incandescent lightbulb with a wick? Hmmm.
     

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    John D in CT

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    I agree with that, I only used 3ohms as an example because the discussion was about 1.5ohm DCC's being 24watts @ 6v, and 12watts to each of two coils is different than 24watts to a single coil.

    Totally agree with you, and I apologize for not wording what I said to properly reflect that. I was just paraphrasing what you said, which was spot-on.
     

    John D in CT

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    And I don't use dual coils all the time because the Darwin can only push them so far. I actually prefer 2.5 ohm single coils at 9.0 watts. I've been doing this a good bit longer and know that many vets found right around 5.0 volts is the sweet spot. The dual coils make a nice change of pace but when I have used them on 5 & 6 volt PV's they perform the best.

    And I don't agree necessarilly that your nicotine comsuption is greater. Your total nic consumption will not necessarilly be greater depending on how much you vape, which in my case is less when I vape around 5 volts. My "clouds of vaper" are the same whether I'm using a dual coil or a single coil. And my eliquid usage is the same regardless of what cartos I use. There is no way you can prove that assumption, which makes it irrelevant to the discussion.

    This has got me thinking, which is not always a good thing, but when it occurs, I like to keep it going.

    I have long since gotten over any fascination I had with dual coils, ESPECIALLY on low-voltage devices that IMO can't get the lowest-resistance dual coils warm enough to vaporize all (any?) liquids properly.

    The discussion of juice consumption makes me wonder if this might be a good way to look at it. Dual coils on a PV/APV that can power them properly (4+ volts and up IMO) might be like having a V8 engine on a car that would do just fine with a 4-cylinder turbo. Massive clouds of vapor are cool and all, but I think that quality of vapor production trumps quantity, and I don't see really needing any more vapor production than a single coil, at the optimal temperature, with optimal juice delivery to it won't produce just fine.

    It also seems to me that a single coil in a tank/carto would have a better juice feed going on that the upper coil of a dual coil, especially when the tank starts to get low. Having an "upper slot" and a "lower" slot in the carto (not really done, I know) would do nothing to change that. And with a single coil, your battery is obviously going to last longer. Fewer watts per vape. And does a single vape with (2x) cc's of vapor get (2X) the nicotine into your system than one of (x) cc's? Somehow I don't think so. A particular nicotine molecule either attaches to one of a finite number of red blood cells present on x square centimeters of lung tissue or it doesn't, and IMO an overabundance of nicotine molecules in some monster hit isn't going to change that.

    If one is good, two is not necessarily better. Make mine a single, please.
     
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    Something doesn't smell right here, but I can't put my finger on it. Could be fine?

    I think so. Assuming equal juice concentrated around two separate coils in a DC carto, you'd be heating the juice in two areas at 12w (also assuming that's possible, hah) both generating an equal amount of vapor. Your vape is at 12w, the vapor production would be doubled....also assuming the same length press of the button between an SC and DC carto, and that the overall design of the carto (other than the coil of course) is the same.

    Honestly, I've found I get less vapor out of a dual coil, but in principal the above should be correct.
     

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    Interesting! I guess I didn't even consider that someone might prefer a lower wattage. What do you not like about higher wattage?

    I like the taste of these juices I am using on the lower wattages. Any higher they taste burned, no one likes that. The range I listed works out just fine for me.
     

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