House Dems call for cigar, e-cigarette regulations over 'kid-friendly' products

[BuGlen]

Looks like we have some of the usual players in the House of Representatives trying to push the issue of regulation based on the CDC report:
House Dems call for cigar, e-cigarette regulations over 'kid-friendly' products - The Hill's RegWatch

 

[ed101z]

Hey BIG GOVERNMENT! Get your facts straight!!!!!! ejuice names such as "Cherry Crush" or "Vanilla Milkshake" is NOT targeting Teenagers!!! Just like buying real cigarettes, IF they are getting ejuice... then they're getting them illegally, and lieing about their age!! EVERY ejuice vender makes you enter an age to verify you are OVER 18. If you must, then pass the Law prohibiting MINORS from buying e-Cigs. Don't care. Pass it! But however, stay out of the e-cigs in general.

Instead of worrying about UNREGULATED eJuice, ... you need to be in Colorado worrying about the REGULATION of certain green leaf.

 

[Petrodus]

According to the Obama administration’s spring roadmap for new regulations,
a proposal to expand the FDA’s oversight could be released in October.

More regulations ...
Yeah, that's what this country needs
(sarcasm)

 

[stevegmu]

Interesting. I see a common theme with so much e-nic hatred. Can't quite figure it out, though...

 

[stevegmu]

Hey BIG GOVERNMENT! Get your facts straight!!!!!! ejuice names such as "Cherry Crush" or "Vanilla Milkshake" is NOT targeting Teenagers!!! Just like buying real cigarettes, IF they are getting eJuice... then they're getting them illegally, and lieing about their age!! EVERY eJuice vender makes you enter an age to verify you are OVER 18. If you must, then pass the Law prohibiting MINORS from buying e-Cigs. Don't care. Pass it! But however, stay out of the e-cigs in general.

Instead of worrying about UNREGULATED eJuice, ... you need to be in Colorado worrying about the REGULATION of certain green leaf.

How many kids under 18 have credit cards or debit cards that their parents don't monitor? Since online vendors generally don't accept cash, it would seem credit cards/check cards as payment would almost be age verification in itself.

 

[telsie]

Since when is flavor enjoyment exclusive to people under 18?! I dont' know of any vendor that will sell to anyone under 18, but it would certainly be a good idea to make that a law. Going after flavors, though? NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!! It's the tasty flavors that allow us grown ups to enjoy our electronic cigarettes so we can stay off tobacco cigarettes. I know some vapers like tobacco flavors, but I'm not one of them. I need my vanilla!

Just had to get that off my chest.

 

[KjAthena]

had to leave a response...thanks for bringing this to the forefront

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

It's for the CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILDREN!!!!!

 

[Dustin Brown]

I was a reporter for the paper at my college years ago. The White House drug policy czar came to town to pump people up about drug testing in public schools. I wrote in months ahead and followed all the proper steps to receive my press credentials. While interviewing her(I forget her name) she said this exact thing, "think of the children." In the article this quote was immediately followed by another quote from a professor of mine, "when they mention the children, you know they are attempting to stifle critical thinking." Probably my favorite article I wrote for that rag.

 

[KjAthena]

Parents need to be responsible for protecting the children...and that is coming from a mother and grandmother

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Parents need to be responsible for protecting the children...and that is coming from a mother and grandmother

I would much rather kids these days pick up a personal vaper, than a cigarette...yeah...it's not good for them...but last time I checked...cigarettes didn't magically become "not bad for you" since personal vapers hit the market, and we have seen tens of thousands suffer from the "other stuff" in cigarettes that PV's don't have...

The kids that are going to do it are going to do it...just like 20 years ago when I started...I just wish 20 years ago they had PV's instead of "cancer sticks"

 

[KjAthena]

I agree whole heartedly

 

[Petrodus]

I was a reporter for the paper at my college years ago. The White House drug policy czar came to town to pump people up about drug testing in public schools. I wrote in months ahead and followed all the proper steps to receive my press credentials. While interviewing her(I forget her name) she said this exact thing, "think of the children." In the article this quote was immediately followed by another quote from a professor of mine, "when they mention the children, you know they are attempting to stifle critical thinking." Probably my favorite article I wrote for that rag.

The owners of this country ...
don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking.
The table is tilted folks ... the game is rigged.

George Carlin (may he rest in peace) had it right all along.

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[Dustin Brown]

It's funny you quote this specific bit. Right around the time I wrote the article I just mentioned, George Carlin passed. I wanted to use the text of this piece to serve as his obit, starting at "There's a reason for this," ending at "you have to be asleep to believe." I got the biggest argument with the editor about it and ending up writing a mediocre tribute.

 

[Bill Godshall]

Waxman's posted the letters sent by him and other House Dems at
Leading Democrats Call for Regulations, Hearings on E-Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products | Congressman Henry Waxman

To FDA's Hamburg
http://democrats.energycommerce.hou...g-Adolescent-Use-of-E-Cigarette-2013-9-16.pdf

To E&C Committee Chairs
http://democrats.energycommerce.hou...tts-E-Cigarette-Adoloescent-Use-2013-9-16.pdf

These letters contain little more than false and misleading fear mongering claims about e-cigs.

 

[Lisa Belle]

Excellent wording WarHawk AVG

cigarettes didn't magically become "not bad for you" since personal vapers hit the market

 

[Lisa Belle]

It translates to the love of lavish life styles and money mongering, that Big Pharma and Big Tobacco are famous for! It has nothing to do with the nasty lies and words that are said, and the playing on human emotions, it's only about the money threat that e-cigarettes are to the greedy aslkdfj;lkjv;ldkjfbl.djkb;d/cj.bm lbjkv bdoiuropgi[puigl;k holes!

 

[Petrodus]

last time I checked...cigarettes didn't magically become "not bad for you" since personal vapers hit the market ...

KUDOS ...
Fantastic 1-liner !!

 

[pamdis]

Unreal. Reasons to deem all include words like 'may', 'potential', etc. The paragraph that acknowledges the benefits then dismisses them with the statement 'We do not dismiss these ideas, but they need to be proven' because the 'FDA has been given the authority to make science based decisions'. Benefits needs to be proven, but harm doesn't? Public officials who sign these letters should read them first to check for these idiotic contradictions.

 

[Lisa Belle]

I've posted this before, and just because it's our neighbors to the north, does not make it any less important.

CITIZENS AGAINST GOVERNMENT ENCROACHMENT CITOYENS ANTI GOUVERNEMENT ENVAHISSANT: BELIEFS, MANIPULATION AND LIES IN THE TOBACCO ISSUE - Robert Molimard

Lies and manipulations are the weapons of choice for political and economic gains without regard for the well-being of people or the survival of the planet.

Tobacco manufacturers and merchants, the state, self-righteous non-profit organizations, the pharmaceutical industry - all powerful entities involved in tobacco issues - are ready to do anything to promote their own agendas. In a curious collusion, they all seem to be quite content with a general state of public confusion in which scientific truth has no place, and where the smoker, convinced of his own guilt, has become the apathetic victim.

Could be getting worse too.