House Episode

[planetofthevapes]

Sadly this is where you are wrong. Millions of Americans who previously knew nothing about PG have been 'informed' that is can make you very ill.

Frankly I think this is more damaging than the any news show to date

I think you hit that nail right on the head! What's funny is I started a gluten-free diet yesterday to try and get rid of my hives...so I have been going through all of the cupboards and reading EVERY ingredient label to separate what I can and cannot eat for the next month... As I was doing this, I noticed that my salad dressing has propylene glycol in it! CRAZY! I thought about vaping it...LOL...nah, I'm just kidding.

I think that House is one of the worst television shows when it comes to make believe. Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting show. I have a bit of medical knowledge, I have seen a lot in my days...and I know that they don't sit around and think of a million things that could be wrong, then treat without checking it first. I mean, that's just a dangerous practice. I don't think that one episode that I have seen hasn't ended in treating something before they got medical results back and they actually added to the problem by shutting down the person's liver or kidneys... House limps because I kicked him for being an idiot! ROFLMAO! Ok, I'm done with my rant!

 

[McLaren]

I was reading the Wiki page about PG and it only made a small mention of seizures under chronic use. Since the kid would sweat a lot he probably constantly used his deodorant.

I also think its something only people who are into E-cigs would notice. Kinda like when you start to like a certain car and then you start seeing them everywhere.

Their was an episode of house(years ago) where a person got sick from eating bad pork. the pork industry did seem to be phased... well up until now but that is due to swine flu. I do realize this is an entirely different subject and everyone hates smokers so it will get a lot more negativity than anything else.

People fear what they do not understand.

 

[Boston George]

Their was an episode of house(years ago) where a person got sick from eating bad pork. the pork industry did seem to be phased...

The difference is that people know what pork is and they can rationalize bad pork.

They had no previous idea what PG was and now it is some scary toxic substance that almost killed someone on their favorite show.

 

[Nicfits]

My Wife is a huge House fan, it's her favorite show, so of course we saw this episode. She yelled out honey, did you here that? I looked at her and she had this concerned look on her face.
She skipped back with the DVR so I could see and hear what was said.
I immediately told her, This is Hollywood, it's all make believe.
Sad thing is, so many believe everything they hear.
Dang, I miss John Wayne.

 

[ozrick]

Propylene glycol (PIM 443)

"Estimated acceptable daily intake: up to 25 mg propylene
glycol per kg body weight (Seventeeth Report of the FAO/WHO
Expert Committee, 1974)."

Interesting read, there are some known side effects when alot is introduced into the body but it seems like it would have to be a whole hell of alot to do anything:

150 lb person = 68ish kg
(1KG=2.2ish lbs)
25MG x 68KG = 1700MG of PG per day... rofl.. vape that!

 

[Krakkan]

Yes this show made me look up from my monitor to shout profanities at the television

 

[McLaren]

The difference is that people know what pork is and they can rationalize bad pork.

They had no previous idea what PG was and now it is some scary toxic substance that almost killed someone on their favorite show.

I agree, thats why my last line was "People fear what they do not understand"

 

[~kerri]

The difference is that people know what pork is and they can rationalize bad pork.

They had no previous idea what PG was and now it is some scary toxic substance that almost killed someone on their favorite show.

Hate to break it to you but PG is up there on the list of "terrible horrible ingredients one should never ever use in their skin care" according to several alarmist groups who get a lot of magazine "air play".
you would be surprised just how many people out there know about it's dangerous existence. just not in the "vaping context".
unless house was vaping it- I suspect it was the cosmetic connection being played to here.
(I'm not really sure what function PG would have in a spray deo. it was a common ingredient in "natural" solid deos. until it made the above mentioned list(s) and was reformulated out.
most solid common drugstore antiperspirants do not even contain it.)

 

[Tallgirl1974]

Propylene glycol (PIM 443)

"Estimated acceptable daily intake: up to 25 mg propylene
glycol per kg body weight (Seventeeth Report of the FAO/WHO
Expert Committee, 1974)."

Interesting read, there are some known side effects when alot is introduced into the body but it seems like it would have to be a whole hell of alot to do anything:

150 lb person = 68ish kg
(1KG=2.2ish lbs)
25MG x 68KG = 1700MG of PG per day... rofl.. vape that!

LOL! Youd be sweat free tho! And look like the crypt keeper.
We get worried about a food aditive- but we all puffed on arcenic without blinking. Was it because it came in a box from QT instead of china?
I just cant wrap my brain around it- how any former smoker is scared of something that does have less chemicals (fact) and makes you feel better. (fact for me and many others)
And yea, the episode ticked me off too- I cant belive they made House crazy!

 

[TropicalBob]

The point is this: Until that episode, the average TV viewer had no idea what propylene glycol is. Now they know. It's the stuff that causes seizures and all kinds of serious problems. They learned about it on House.

That's "education" for the masses, and exposure on a show like House has more impact than a dozen Today shows or The Doctors or any piece in Hometown Gazette.

 

[Angela]

But how many people will remeber the name 'propylene glycol' in a week's time?

I watch House (but we haven't had the series you are talking about on in the UK yet). It's a fun programme, I enjoy it..... but I certainly don't take it seriously, and I'll be damned if I can remember the name of any other obscure substance / thing that caused any of the patients in last series to get ill!

 

[Skad]

House is an excellent show, and while it has very good dialog, it has less science in it then American Idol. I've heard health care folks rant about it for years.

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

Why are we worried? That this show is going to educate the masses that PG is evil, dangerous, deadly?

If someone came to me with "But isn't that dangerous? Some character on House nearly died from PG poisoning?" my response would be to ask them if they believe everything they hear on the TV.....it's FICTION. Words put into an actors mouth becase some writer decided they sounded good.

Ever watch someone on a medical show "perform" CPR? Try doing it like that IRL, and your person is going to end up a corpse.

It's like telling the world that there are actual dragons out there, not because I saw one, but because I watched a movie....

 

[Ivisi]

I think, for the average viewer, House's severe hallucinations are going to overshadow the extremely brief mention of PG in that episode. Today, no one is talking about 'Did you hear what they said about PG?' No, they're talking about Chase/Cameron's wedding and House's trip to the mental facility.

The average TV viewer has the attention span of a gnat. And if scripted fictional TV shows had as much impact on what people believe to be true, then we wouldn't be having a debate in this country on the legality and morality of torture, because Jack Bauer has shown us it's good.

I'm not terribly concerned with the poetic license they took with PG last night. PG has a nice 'diagnosy' name to it, and that's why they used it. And I thought it was a good episode, and can't wait for next season.

Ivisi

 

[Angela]

I think, for the average viewer, House's severe hallucinations are going to overshadow the extremely brief mention of PG in that episode. Today, no one is talking about 'Did you hear what they said about PG?' No, they're talking about Chase/Cameron's wedding and House's trip to the mental facility.

Are you lot going to completely ruin the next series for all of us UK viewers? LOL

 

[surbitonPete]

Doesn't every patient on that show have Lupus (whatever that is) until they always end up ruling that out?

 

[Gofo2]

Are you lot going to completely ruin the next series for all of us UK viewers? LOL

Hi Angela, I wondered if you got to see US TV shows and movies. How does that work? Are they aired there at a later date, or what? I think we just get selected programs from the UK on a network channel called BBC? I am not sure if there are other sources.

I saw the episode, we never miss House. I couldn't believe it when that came out of his mouth. Also, I was confused when he completely detoxed from years of huge quantities of vicodin daily for years in 24 hours!! I should have known it was a hallucination then. I was telling my husband, now families with members that have an addiction like that will think they can just stop and be sick for a day and everything would be fine. It was a episode that could confuse people about PG also, especially users, because we are the ones who are most familiar with PG. I also noticed on Wiki that electronic cigarettes are the second thing listed as containing propylene glycol. I think the whole Wikipage could use some editing.

 

[Angela]

Hi Angela, I wondered if you got to see US TV shows and movies. How does that work? Are they aired there at a later date, or what? I think we just get selected programs from the UK on a network channel called BBC? I am not sure if there are other sources.

Different televison stations buy the rights to certain shows. It just depends on when they buy the rights and the particular scheduling of programms by that particular station as to when we get to see them.

 

[David Bruno]

Hi All,
FYI, I was a big pipe smoker and belong to quite a few pipe organizations. No I don't mean bongs! That was in my rock band years. Most all flavored pipe tobacco has huge amounts of pg. I think most pipe tobacco in general has a least some added. It's used as flavor additive base and I read as a preservative. I never paid a whole lot of attention to it, as I was a big burley Tobacco fan, without flavorings. I haven't smoked my pipe for close to 5 weeks, nor smoked analogs. My point is, I've never heard of anyone in the thousands of pipe smokers in the organizations I belonged to getting sick in any way from PG. I hope that eases the mind some.
I guess we don't know what the long term effects of vaping will bring, but I know guys smoking pretty large amounts for 30 years or so with no problems.
Dave

 

[Boston George]

Are you lot going to completely ruin the next series for all of us UK viewers?

In my defense I started the thread with a spoiler alert. o.0