How close is Aroma WTA to a real cigarette?

[kingcobra]

First of all it does seem that some people are more sensitive to things than others. I've always felt the effects of vaping immediately. I do think that your nic level has a lot to do with this as well though. I can't vape 24 mg for instance and don't feel enough effects either immediately or at any point afterward as a matter of fact.

Personally, as I've said many times, I find vaping high strength nic with WTA considerably more satisfying than analogs. If you are craving that first thing in the morning nic rush and you aren't getting it then it's probably because you aren't getting enough nic. I get that with every vape.

The WTA part of it can be thought of as a relaxation modulator, meaning that even the highest nic content won't really relax you like analogs did and you have to add enough WTA to get that. Pure Aroma WTA juice is too relaxing by itself which is why I mix it, and the idea is to get both the stimulating nic experience and the relaxing WTA experience in the right proportion, to achieve vaping nirvana. After a bit of experimenting I have found it, for me. When you reach this stage then smoking analogs becomes far inferior, like being poisoned compared to getting the cure

 

[joey.r]

First of all it does seem that some people are more sensitive to things than others. I've always felt the effects of vaping immediately. I do think that your nic level has a lot to do with this as well though. I can't vape 24 mg for instance and don't feel enough effects either immediately or at any point afterward as a matter of fact.

Personally, as I've said many times, I find vaping high strength nic with WTA considerably more satisfying than analogs. If you are craving that first thing in the morning nic rush and you aren't getting it then it's probably because you aren't getting enough nic. I get that with every vape.



The WTA part of it can be thought of as a relaxation modulator, meaning that even the highest nic content won't really relax you like analogs did and you have to add enough WTA to get that. Pure Aroma WTA juice is too relaxing by itself which is why I mix it, and the idea is to get both the stimulating nic experience and the relaxing WTA experience in the right proportion, to achieve vaping nirvana. After a bit of experimenting I have found it, for me. When you reach this stage then smoking analogs becomes far inferior, like being poisoned compared to getting the cure

thanks for that fellow Canadian ... but i always thought that the wta and the nic was in the nic juice?.. so i thought that the higher the nic level the more wta you get ?.. or is the wta added separately .. so i mean if i do 18 nic level and say i get 24 that means the 24 will hit harder because of the wta that has bean added ? so i should stay below it ?if that makes sense..

 

[kingcobra]

Well that was the case, more nic equals more WTA, but I hear that they are changing that to make the WTA more constant across different nic strengths. The idea though is to vape the amount of WTA that you need, whether that means part time vape or mixing. So it's a matter of individual preference and need which you can play around with until you find what works best for you.

 

[joey.r]

Well that was the case, more nic equals more WTA, but I hear that they are changing that to make the WTA more constant across different nic strengths. The idea though is to vape the amount of WTA that you need, whether that means part time vape or mixing. So it's a matter of individual preference and need which you can play around with until you find what works best for you.

ok thanks .. so it has not changed yet .. and i think i will wait to get the Unflavored WTA Concentrate that way i can use it with my juices with my 18 mg nic...unless he offers the 18 mg nic ,,,but i think this is the only way this will work .. but i am going to try this.. thanks for the help kingcobra

unless i mis understood..which happens

 

[radiokaos]

ok thanks .. so it has not changed yet .. and i think i will wait to get the Unflavored WTA Concentrate that way i can use it with my juices with my 18 mg nic...unless he offers the 18 mg nic ,,,but i think this is the only way this will work .. but i am going to try this.. thanks for the help kingcobra

unless i mis understood..which happens

It has changed, and the values of minor alkaloids are the same if you order low or high nic flavored WTA.

If you are waiting on concentrate PLEASE realize that we will not be selling any for a while. In fact we are going to call our new concentrate WTA DIY instead. Nevertheless, we are still in the early stages of working out the logistics before we sell it to the public.

If you are looking for 18 MG WTA...I would suggest some popular flavors such as our P-38 Lightning Menthol. If you want to try a different flavored Eliquid from either our line or the Red Tail Vapor line just drop me a line.

 

[dodari]

It has changed, and the values of minor alkaloids are the same if you order low or high nic flavored WTA.

If you are waiting on concentrate PLEASE realize that we will not be selling any for a while. In fact we are going to call our new concentrate WTA DIY instead. Nevertheless, we are still in the early stages of working out the logistics before we sell it to the public.

If you are looking for 18 MG WTA...I would suggest some popular flavors such as our P-38 Lightning Menthol. If you want to try a different flavored Eliquid from either our line or the Red Tail Vapor line just drop me a line.

Hi Radio,

I'm trying to work down to what my favorite flavors from Aroma are, I've had vaping equipment failures(batts, cartos, the damned ViVi junks, Stardust stuffies, etc. blah blahs) and just now getting reliable equip't. back on line.

I love the DHT/WTA. The GI Joe, Beatle Juice, Tabacco Road, and something else(can't remember which right now) are pretty good, I like them. My regular vape is BWB 555 with some added 555 flavor drops added to get it where it has much taste to my fried taste buds I guess.

Without the WTA type juice in the morning particularly, I fall off the wagon back to the little Rez.(Isleta Pueblo, NM) cigars, a carton for $10.00, I can get 'em for $7.35/ carton, I'm related and have the right numbers. I have really blown it very badly for the last 3 darned weeks, I'm addicted, what's to say.

In your, or anyone else's opinion that is a tobacco taste wack-case like I am, opinion, what is the very closet flavor that you have that is close to 555 or a real cigerette? I realize you can't really duplicate burning analog flavor. Just trying to get close with the WTA in it. The WTA juice, first thing in the morning, my worst time of mania, helps greatly in that time that my brain and body are "booting up", so to speak. Once awake and moving I usually can maintain pretty well on the regular 555.

Thanks.

 

[kingcobra]

Well I stand corrected, that's good news about the consistency of WTA because it's already on the subtle side with WTA, nicely subtle I might add, but I suspected that some people who have said that they don't care for WTA may have tried the weaker variety.

I think that you should consider charging more for the concentrate to make it more profitable for you. I wouldn't worry about making it more expensive, as there are so many people standing in line for this and wanting it badly that you could probably charge a lot more for it. Something like $18 a bottle wouldn't be too crazy if that puts this into a higher priority slot on the production line

 

[joey.r]

It has changed, and the values of minor alkaloids are the same if you order low or high nic flavored WTA.

If you are waiting on concentrate PLEASE realize that we will not be selling any for a while. In fact we are going to call our new concentrate WTA DIY instead. Nevertheless, we are still in the early stages of working out the logistics before we sell it to the public.

If you are looking for 18 MG WTA...I would suggest some popular flavors such as our P-38 Lightning Menthol. If you want to try a different flavored Eliquid from either our line or the Red Tail Vapor line just drop me a line.

thanks..brother.. i will drop you line tomorrow.. to see what i want.. and let you know .. for sure .. thanks again

 

[radiokaos]

Well I stand corrected, that's good news about the consistency of WTA because it's already on the subtle side with WTA, nicely subtle I might add, but I suspected that some people who have said that they don't care for WTA may have tried the weaker variety.

I think that you should consider charging more for the concentrate to make it more profitable for you. I wouldn't worry about making it more expensive, as there are so many people standing in line for this and wanting it badly that you could probably charge a lot more for it. Something like $18 a bottle wouldn't be too crazy if that puts this into a higher priority slot on the production line

In the past we charged $12.00 for one dram (aprox 4 ml's). Thats $3.00 per ml....granted it will go far which some vapers dont see the value. We have something in the works hopefully we will be able to make that announcement very shortly....until then we are in a holding pattern.


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[kingcobra]

I guess some don't see the value but from what I see the line is very long for $12, and it seems to me that a big reason why it may be as scarce as it is might be that it isn't as profitable for you. I've no idea what it's worth but given that so many people's tongues are hanging out for it at that price then perhaps some people, enough people, may be willing to pay more. Just a thought

 

[Mr.Mann]

A pack of smokes for me was about 8-10 bucks and it didn't last me as long as a 10mL of WTA, so I don't think there is any problem here. Granted I don't use just one bottle at a time, and I buy bottles like crazy, so in the end I will just chalk up the cost to a savings in doctor's bills that I would've been paying later on.

 

[kingcobra]

2 ml a day adds up to $60 a month, pack a day at $10 is $300, that's some crazy savings there

 

[mcqc4]

I have to add my 2 cents worth. WTA works great. It really helps with that "I need a cig" feeling. I bought some and then bought some more and then some more. I REALLY like the banana and the apple. Now I have to try the berry. I wish he had orange. (just a hint Jerry) I was also wondering, is Aroma's juice PG or VG based? I'm guessing VG based because it's thick. And the vapor is great which I love.

 

[Berylanna]

To the O.P.: it takes a few minutes, I can remember getting that deep sigh, and being surprised, about 6 minutes or more into the morning (or post-stress) vape.

To the vendors: How about coming out with double-strength WTA at triple the price? I need to mix it with other flavors of juice to get satisfaction, and also sometimes with high-nic and sometimes with low-nic, so if I could get, not concentrate, but double-strength, then I could mix it with Gandalf or 555 or whatever floats my boat.

Of course I'll also try to order some of your flavors but I'm really picky about tobacco flavors, and I don't think I'm alone.

For now I'lll order the lower-nic version of your banana to mix with high-nic and 0-nic fruits I like from other vendors.

Basically, the world has 1000 flavors (at LEAST!) of e-juice and only 2 WTA vendors. Please! Let us make you richer!

 

[radiokaos]

To the O.P.: it takes a few minutes, I can remember getting that deep sigh, and being surprised, about 6 minutes or more into the morning (or post-stress) vape.

To the vendors: How about coming out with double-strength WTA at triple the price? I need to mix it with other flavors of juice to get satisfaction, and also sometimes with high-nic and sometimes with low-nic, so if I could get, not concentrate, but double-strength, then I could mix it with Gandalf or 555 or whatever floats my boat.

Of course I'll also try to order some of your flavors but I'm really picky about tobacco flavors, and I don't think I'm alone.

For now I'lll order the lower-nic version of your banana to mix with high-nic and 0-nic fruits I like from other vendors.

Basically, the world has 1000 flavors (at LEAST!) of e-juice and only 2 WTA vendors. Please! Let us make you richer!

Would love to come out with a stronger WTA mix but I have a few things to consider and liability is the biggest concern.

Its not the money because if that was the case I would be in a different line of work. If you get a chance can you pm me your number and maybe we can talk on the phone.

I'm always open for more input.

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

I like this description, snork. I got to try wta this weekend, and the difference between it and other juices blew me away. It's a qualitative difference.

It's been 2 months since I quit my 2 pad smoking habit and started vaping. Trying all sorts of juices at all nic strengths and no matter what, I'm constantly vaping- my pv is always in or close at hand. With this, I can see myself putting it down for a bit.

In my opinion it's not close at all. It's completely different in the same way cigarettes are different than vaping in general. In my experience nothing duplicates the feelings you get from a burning inhaled mixture of toxic gases, carcinogenic chemicals, nicotine and alkaloids. Just not gonna happen. Yay for us!
For me WTA has never produced a first of the morning buzz or lightheadedness. It just satisfies. I don't know exactly what it satisfies. Like eating a hamburger as opposed to a salad. It has meat!

A pack of smokes for me was about 8-10 bucks and it didn't last me as long as a 10mL of WTA, so I don't think there is any problem here. Granted I don't use just one bottle at a time, and I buy bottles like crazy, so in the end I will just chalk up the cost to a savings in doctor's bills that I would've been paying later on.

I concur. I'm not reaching for an analog during the day as often, like I had been doing vaping "regular" eliquids. I don't have to chain vape with the WTA juices. Hard to describe because it's not instantaneous. It satisfies and some time passes between tokes. I was skeptical before trying for myself. I have tons of other vendors juices to use up and might continue to buy because I like some of the flavors even though they aren't WTAs. So I still chain vape those

I'll be saving money in the long run too.

 

[radiokaos]

I concur. I'm not reaching for an analog during the day as often, like I had been doing vaping "regular" eliquids. I don't have to chain vape with the WTA juices. Hard to describe because it's not instantaneous. It satisfies and some time passes between tokes. I was skeptical before trying for myself. I have tons of other vendors juices to use up and might continue to buy because I like some of the flavors even though they aren't WTAs. So I still chain vape those

I'll be saving money in the long run too.

Just a quick question how often are you using analogs during the day?

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Just a quick question how often are you using analogs during the day?

First thing in the morning I take a few drags from my Nat Sherman Hint. (I have a ".... saver" which allows me to extinguish a cig without smashing it, so hours later I can re-light and take a few more drags. Throughout the day, I do this until I've consumed about 3 analogs total. Better than up to 2 pad I used to smoke!) With the WTAs Dark Honey Tobacco and G.I. Joe, so far, I'm able to let some time pass before I vape again. Maybe due to the tobacco taste coupled with WTAs that I crave and these do it for me? When I vape non WTA juices, I chain vape continuously without that feeling that I can/should put it down for a while.

 

[radiokaos]

First thing in the morning I take a few drags from my Nat Sherman Hint. (I have a ".... saver" which allows me to extinguish a cig without smashing it, so hours later I can re-light and take a few more drags. Throughout the day, I do this until I've consumed about 3 analogs total. Better than up to 2 pad I used to smoke!) With the WTAs Dark Honey Tobacco and G.I. Joe, so far, I'm able to let some time pass before I vape again. Maybe due to the tobacco taste coupled with WTAs that I crave and these do it for me? When I vape non WTA juices, I chain vape continuously without that feeling that I can/should put it down for a while.

I have never tried Nat Sherman Hint but I think Mr.Mann or someone else maybe even from PA was a big supporter of that tobacco.

Since you went from 2 PAD down to 3 analogs.....have you noticed anything different?

Don't worry we are all in the same "boat" and no one here will ever judge you.

I struggle every day and its hard for me as well.

 

[bmarley5780]

Since you went from 2 PAD down to 3 analogs.....have you noticed anything different?

Don't worry we are all in the same "boat" and no one here will ever judge you.

I struggle every day and its hard for me as well.

I'm goin on 5 mths now with no cig's and there are many times a day I think of lighting up, STILL! I don't think that "want" will ever go away.