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I'll give this thread a poke...
Description from the website:
This is our Marbrow cowboy mix punched up a notch. It is a sweet blend, with subtle tobacco undertones. Infused with LOVE and WTA.
How would you rate your first experience vaping WTA (scale 1-10)
6, 9, 8, 10. Okay, okay, I'll explain...My first WTA liquid was Beatle Juice 12mg nicotine. The very first puff was a "6" It had an unpleasant ashy taste. The second puff was a "9," the ashy taste disappeared and has never returned. It has a true tobacco feel, with just a touch of dirty sourness and a full bodied "taste" although in reality, it does not have much flavor. Overall, after vaping it, I was a bit disappointed. I was expecting something a bit more potent, but I did feel relaxed, and gave it an "8". A month later, I vape at least a ml. a day. It's done more for getting me over the hump and cutting back on the smokes than anything else has. "10"
What was the time frame regarding your usage of WTA
I've gone through 10 ml. in one month, with the most use in the final week.
What was the frequency of your WTA usage
Once or twice a day for the first 2-1/2 weeks, with the use gradually increasing. I vape 2-3 ml. per day, with WTA liquid being 1/3-1/2 of that amount and used in 5-10 puffs per "session."
What was the dosage of your WTA
12 mg.
Were you using flavored or unflavored WTA
Flavored. I would literally pay double to have unflavored WTA to add to my favorite e-liquids. Face it, you'll never make Pluid, and Murdock won't use WTA, so I get to be ...... at both of you.
1. Did you ever get a feeling of being high while trying WTA ?
High? no. Mellowed out and relaxed, yes.
2. Did you ever get a feeling that you were out of control while using WTA?
No.
3. Did WTA meet your expectations, and if not why?
Yes. It reduced that feeling of missing something, of being irritable, of needing a smoke, and that aching, clawing, craving, hollow, sensation goes bye-bye after vaping WTA.
I re-ordered Beatle Juice, and also ordered Sahara and Turkish Blend tobacco. I don't normally vape anything tobacco flavored, so the fact that I not only re-ordered one, but ordered two others, is a bigger deal than one might think. The only thing I have to add, is please make unflavored WTA part of your regular menu options (and not "sold out" with limited releases of 15 bottles every 6 months, either.
This is a great write up....Thank you so much for your input.
Thank's Jerry. I'll post up my thoughts on Sahara and Turkish soon. I'm vaping both out of identical Kanger MT3's. I'm pretty sure I know which one's which, but I want to be sure before I post reviews.
This morning I'm trying Sahara WTA for the first time. I was hoping to find a new juice that could compete with my beloved G. I. Joe.
I bought the 24mg nicotine which is what I normally vape. Visually Sahara looks identical to my Joe and this bottle is 70/30 PG/VG. The liquid smells quite a bit like Joe but with a little spicier note.
Now the taste. Hmm. It reminds me of Aroma's Virginia (which I like a lot) but less strong, drier, more spicy, and has a kind of weird musky aftertaste. The throat hit is kind of strange, too. G. I. Joe hits me real nice and strong in the back of the throat, Sahara's hit is almost entirely on my tongue, sort of like a zing from a mouthful of soda pop. I'm not fond of it.
Some people may like Sahara. Personally I do not. It doesn't hit my throat right and the taste is a strange combination of tastelessness and dry boozy musk. It could very well be that since I'm such a Joe freak my palate is limited. An interesting thing though - when I smoked I smoked Winstons (read: G. I. Joe) and hated Camels (read: Sahara).
Interesting.
I bought the 24mg nicotine which is what I normally vape. Visually Sahara looks identical to my Joe and this bottle is 70/30 PG/VG. The liquid smells quite a bit like Joe but with a little spicier note.
Now the taste. Hmm. It reminds me of Aroma's Virginia (which I like a lot) but less strong, drier, more spicy, and has a kind of weird musky aftertaste. The throat hit is kind of strange, too. G. I. Joe hits me real nice and strong in the back of the throat, Sahara's hit is almost entirely on my tongue, sort of like a zing from a mouthful of soda pop. I'm not fond of it.
Some people may like Sahara. Personally I do not. It doesn't hit my throat right and the taste is a strange combination of tastelessness and dry boozy musk. It could very well be that since I'm such a Joe freak my palate is limited. An interesting thing though - when I smoked I smoked Winstons (read: G. I. Joe) and hated Camels (read: Sahara).
Interesting.
Sahara Review
Description from the website:
Intense as the sunlight in the desert, this WTA infused Camel powers up the rich old-fashioned bold tobacco flavor. Wonderingly satisfying!
Now that I've spent some time with Sahara WTA, I'll give it a review.
I got it at 12 mg strength, my normal vape. For a little background, I did smoke Camels for years, both Camel 99's and Camel Wides. I don't know if Jerry uses NET tobaccos to flavor these juices, but I am constantly surprised as how close he comes to capturing the essence of the cigarette. Sahara is a very dry vape, with a toned-down throat hit and a high degree of mouth hit. The top of your mouth will instantly dry out from this vape. There is a subtle nutty taste which perfectly compliments the taste of Turkish tobaccos. I don't know if the nuttiness is meant to reproduce the Virgina Burley tobaccos used in Camel cigarettes, but it is a very close approximation.
Final appraisal, this doesn't quite hit the mark as a "camel" reproduction, but it comes very close indeed. In fact, it reminds me most of Kamel Reds. For those unfamiliar with that particular cigarette, here's a picture.
These were marketed as a better camel cigarette, so I guess Jerry improved on the original. This would not be an all day vape for me, but if I hadn't tried Beetle Juice first, I might have been very happy with this one.
3 out of 5 vape rings, unless Jerry was going for Kamel Red, in which case it would be 5 out of 5 vape rings.
Description from the website:
Intense as the sunlight in the desert, this WTA infused Camel powers up the rich old-fashioned bold tobacco flavor. Wonderingly satisfying!
Now that I've spent some time with Sahara WTA, I'll give it a review.
I got it at 12 mg strength, my normal vape. For a little background, I did smoke Camels for years, both Camel 99's and Camel Wides. I don't know if Jerry uses NET tobaccos to flavor these juices, but I am constantly surprised as how close he comes to capturing the essence of the cigarette. Sahara is a very dry vape, with a toned-down throat hit and a high degree of mouth hit. The top of your mouth will instantly dry out from this vape. There is a subtle nutty taste which perfectly compliments the taste of Turkish tobaccos. I don't know if the nuttiness is meant to reproduce the Virgina Burley tobaccos used in Camel cigarettes, but it is a very close approximation.
Final appraisal, this doesn't quite hit the mark as a "camel" reproduction, but it comes very close indeed. In fact, it reminds me most of Kamel Reds. For those unfamiliar with that particular cigarette, here's a picture.
These were marketed as a better camel cigarette, so I guess Jerry improved on the original.
This would not be an all day vape for me, but if I hadn't tried Beetle Juice first, I might have been very happy with this one.3 out of 5 vape rings, unless Jerry was going for Kamel Red, in which case it would be 5 out of 5 vape rings.
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Turkish Blend Review
From the website:
This is where it all started, after thousands of years the taste of tobacco was refined. Many popular American tobacco brands promote this blend. A palatial tobacco flavor, fragrant, with complex undertones. Infused with Whole Tobacco Alkaloid eliquid (WTA).
Now that I've spent some time with Turkish Blend WTA, I'll give it a review.
I got it at 12 mg strength, my normal vape.
(Edit: looks like I owe Jerry an apology. I was apparently vaping this out of a contaminated Kanger MT3, one that I had previously vaped NWVapors Blueberry Cheesecake out of, and not cleaned out well enough. The following review is based on that mix...)
I was honestly expecting a roll-your-own feel in this e-liquid. The description is accurate, but the name of the juice itself is not. This vape is closer to some of the tobacco flavors other vendors offer, a rich pipe tobacco with overtones of Latakia, and a mellow sweet tasting finish. This vape reminds me of the Black & Gold convenience store cigars that are made with pipe tobacco. I enjoyed this one more than Sahara, but it also falls short of Beetle Juice as my favorite. This is one that I will reorder, though, as I was looking for a nice pipe tobacco that would just "be" an ordinary pipe tobacco, but with WTA.
The throat hit on this one is milder than both Sahara and Beetle Juice, but the flavor is much, much more intense. Two things any vaper will notice about this one: The heavy pipe tobacco taste, and the very sweet tasting finish.
A very good vape. This one gets 4 out of 5 vape rings.
After chain vaping it for a while, the heavy tobacco taste numbs your tongue and it does start to taste more like a roll-your-own, kind of like a freshly opened pouch of Bugler. The sweetness is definitely still there though, and keeps this from truly approximating a roll up smoke.
I'm going to leave this review up in case people want to know what to expect if they add a tiny bit of berry flavored e-liquid to one of Jerry's tobacco vapes.
Edit: Here's the true fair review. If you read my description above, you will notice that I thought it was close to a roll-your-own but sweeter after chain vaping. Now that I have it in an untainted Kanger MT3, It is indeed close to a roll-your-own, similar to Top or Bugler. The vape does have a hint of sweetness, and the tobacco taste I mentioned earlier is reduced, though it is still stronger than Sahara or Beetle Juice. In short, this is about as close as you can get to a freshly opened pouch of roll-your-own tobacco as you can get. I'm still going to re-order this, and I'll enjoy it as a vape both ways. As a straight Turkish tobacco vape, this one gets 5 out of 5 vape rings.
From the website:
This is where it all started, after thousands of years the taste of tobacco was refined. Many popular American tobacco brands promote this blend. A palatial tobacco flavor, fragrant, with complex undertones. Infused with Whole Tobacco Alkaloid eliquid (WTA).
Now that I've spent some time with Turkish Blend WTA, I'll give it a review.
I got it at 12 mg strength, my normal vape.
(Edit: looks like I owe Jerry an apology. I was apparently vaping this out of a contaminated Kanger MT3, one that I had previously vaped NWVapors Blueberry Cheesecake out of, and not cleaned out well enough. The following review is based on that mix...)
I was honestly expecting a roll-your-own feel in this e-liquid. The description is accurate, but the name of the juice itself is not. This vape is closer to some of the tobacco flavors other vendors offer, a rich pipe tobacco with overtones of Latakia, and a mellow sweet tasting finish. This vape reminds me of the Black & Gold convenience store cigars that are made with pipe tobacco. I enjoyed this one more than Sahara, but it also falls short of Beetle Juice as my favorite. This is one that I will reorder, though, as I was looking for a nice pipe tobacco that would just "be" an ordinary pipe tobacco, but with WTA.
The throat hit on this one is milder than both Sahara and Beetle Juice, but the flavor is much, much more intense. Two things any vaper will notice about this one: The heavy pipe tobacco taste, and the very sweet tasting finish.
A very good vape. This one gets 4 out of 5 vape rings.
After chain vaping it for a while, the heavy tobacco taste numbs your tongue and it does start to taste more like a roll-your-own, kind of like a freshly opened pouch of Bugler. The sweetness is definitely still there though, and keeps this from truly approximating a roll up smoke.
I'm going to leave this review up in case people want to know what to expect if they add a tiny bit of berry flavored e-liquid to one of Jerry's tobacco vapes.
Edit: Here's the true fair review. If you read my description above, you will notice that I thought it was close to a roll-your-own but sweeter after chain vaping. Now that I have it in an untainted Kanger MT3, It is indeed close to a roll-your-own, similar to Top or Bugler. The vape does have a hint of sweetness, and the tobacco taste I mentioned earlier is reduced, though it is still stronger than Sahara or Beetle Juice. In short, this is about as close as you can get to a freshly opened pouch of roll-your-own tobacco as you can get. I'm still going to re-order this, and I'll enjoy it as a vape both ways. As a straight Turkish tobacco vape, this one gets 5 out of 5 vape rings.
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Woohoo! just reordered Beetle Juice and ordered G.I. Joe and P-38! I'm looking forward to reviewing them, too. I was starting to worry that G.I. Joe might not be in stock when I ordered, but it looks like Jerry got it back up just in time. Thanks.
LOL When I read your review I was like "Hmmm, I just got finished with an old bottle of Turkish, it wasn't that sweet". But of course everybody tastes so different! Doesn't matter.
You obviously know a lot about tobacco flavor (the real thing). I absolutely do not. I never really switched around, pretty much my entire life I smoked Winstons, smoked a pipe for about a week 25 years ago, never rolled loose tobacco, and actually never once have I smoked a real cigar.
I know I like tobacco eliquid but comparing any of them to real burning tobacco is something I simply can't do. And I know sometimes whatever I taste I might perceive as blueberry cheesecake or skunk poop and I hope to God nobody makes any sort of judgment of a juice based on what I report except in the most general of ways.
I like your detailed descriptions.
Years I ago I got into cigars and tried several different ones. Unfortunately the ones I ended up liking the most were a bit expensive so it wasn't very often that I allowed myself one. I eventually didn't smoke them at all. I was at a store the other day and saw that swisher has an electronic cig/cigar. It was small like a 510 but was colored like a cigar. It was ten dollars and disposable so I didn't bother.
Here's a review I wrote that I hope EVERYBODY reads as gospel:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...35-metro-disposable-horrific.html#post8032520
That's funny snork. I bought a disposable to try a couple months ago. It was about the same price. It actually worked pretty well but the menthol tobacco flavor was really light. It wasn't too bad but the disposables are way overpriced. If they would drop them to three or four bucks a piece then they would probably sell a lot more.
I started with pipes and cigars, so I was more adventurous to begin with.
I've smoked just about every tobacco that can be smoked.I'd just finished my review, and was browsing some of the other pages, when I realized the chain vaping had made the flavor change. Since that usually doesn't happen to me, I wondered what could have caused it. You can imagine my horror when I suspected what had happened. I've had people buy e-juices because of my reviews, and if anyone read that before I fixed it, they would get the wrong impression.
I left that review up though because I was really shocked at how a tiny amount of blueberry cheesecake flavor caused the tobacco notes to really stand out, without revealing any hint of blueberry cheesecake (I'm talking about residual flavoring left in a rinsed out atty here, probably the equivalent of a toothpick tip dipped in blueberry e-juice, any droplets shaken off and then the tip swirled into about 1.5 ml of Turkish Blend).
P-38 Review
From the website:
This is a great menthol flavor that feels cool and has a nice tobacco and menthol mix. If you are menthol fan you will like our flavor. Infused with WTA.
This has a true organic mint taste mixed with menthol. Both the flavor of the mint and the coolness of the menthol come through with perfect clarity. Unfortunately, I won't be giving this one enough time to see if the tobacco eventually makes it's presence felt. There's a subtle under flavor that comes through, almost herbal, almost perfumey, yet neither. This is a juice that might benefit from steeping.
I didn't like this one, which is a pretty high recommendation, because I hate menthol juices. I actually vaped this one for about an hour before putting it away. I got the feeling that it could actually grow on me, if I vaped enough of it.
This was vaped out of a CE2, at 18 mg nicotine, 6 mg higher than I normally vape. I actually bought this for my cousin, who is a menthol addict and coincidentally, he does vape his juices at 18 mg. This is the best mint/menthol juice I've ever vaped, and it's not Jerry's fault that I don't like menthol.
Because I can't taste the tobacco, but can taste "real" mint, I'm going to give this one 4 out of 5 vape rings.
From the website:
This is a great menthol flavor that feels cool and has a nice tobacco and menthol mix. If you are menthol fan you will like our flavor. Infused with WTA.
This has a true organic mint taste mixed with menthol. Both the flavor of the mint and the coolness of the menthol come through with perfect clarity. Unfortunately, I won't be giving this one enough time to see if the tobacco eventually makes it's presence felt. There's a subtle under flavor that comes through, almost herbal, almost perfumey, yet neither. This is a juice that might benefit from steeping.
I didn't like this one, which is a pretty high recommendation, because I hate menthol juices. I actually vaped this one for about an hour before putting it away. I got the feeling that it could actually grow on me, if I vaped enough of it.
This was vaped out of a CE2, at 18 mg nicotine, 6 mg higher than I normally vape. I actually bought this for my cousin, who is a menthol addict and coincidentally, he does vape his juices at 18 mg. This is the best mint/menthol juice I've ever vaped, and it's not Jerry's fault that I don't like menthol.
Because I can't taste the tobacco, but can taste "real" mint, I'm going to give this one 4 out of 5 vape rings.
Quick update here. A few drops of P-38 will flavor any tankful of tobacco without overpowering the tobacco taste. Quite nice for the occasional vape.
G.I. Joe review coming tomorrow...
G.I. Joe review coming tomorrow...
Or a couple of days later than that.Quick update here. A few drops of P-38 will flavor any tankful of tobacco without overpowering the tobacco taste. Quite nice for the occasional vape.
G.I. Joe review coming tomorrow...
G.I. Joe Review
From the website:
This rich, sweet, robust Winston flavor brings back memories of old...men doing daring feats, mountain climbing. Infused for maximum enjoyment with WTA.
G.I. Joe packs a punch. I don't know if it has more WTA than the other cigarette flavored WTA juices, but it has more of the "ashy" taste that is commonly associated with WTA liquid. The first 5ml (at 12 mg/ml) I vaped, it tasted like a half smoked cigarette. Once I got through that 5 ml, the rest of the bottle (or more likely my tongue's sensitivity) lost the ashy taste and it mellowed out into a nice cigarette tobacco style vape...much to my dismay. I actually liked the nasty taste. Oddly enough, the G.I. Joe that I added P-38 to, continues to have that "dirty" taste to it.
This is a more robust tasting vape than Beatle Juice, Camel, or Turkish Blend. This is also the vape that let me put down the smoke sticks once and for all. First time in 14 years that I've been able to go without smoking longer than 3 days.
I don't care for the taste as much as Beatle Juice, which will remain my all day vape for a while longer, but it has more throat hit and flavor. If Beatle Juice is a light smoke, this is a full flavor.I never cared for Winston's and it's been almost a decade since I smoked one, so I can't say if Jerry matched this one or not. Sorry. 5 out of 5 smoke rings for this one, once you vape enough of it to get used to the potency of the flavor.
Did WTA get me off of the smokes? I believe it had a lot to do with it, yes. But it was a combination of circumstances that, taken together, finally let me kick the habit. I had been cutting back slowly, and my last three packs of smokes were Native American Spirit, which don't contain any additives, which helped my system flush the additives out. I ran out of money to buy more smokes (deliberately), I had the willpower not to bum money or smokes off of people (luckily), and I had a strong tobacco flavored WTA fall-back juice - G.I. Joe.
If the e-juice had not contained WTA, I would have been bumming smokes off of people left and right. I know that. WTA got me over the hump.
Remember, "Knowing is half the battle."
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I just started dripping. I normally vape Sahara as my all day vape and also keep a carto full of G.I Joe handy to knock the cravings down. I reached in my juice box and found a bottle of Sahara WTA. So I dripped some and tried it. I also noticed that ashy taste. It's not unpleasant just different then Sahara without WTA. Agree it tastes more like your smoking an analog. I actually prefer it
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