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Discussion in 'Super T Manufacturing' started by revolver, May 17, 2012.

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  1. revolver

    revolver Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 9, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Ok, this might sound weird but I have discovered that if you press the button of the PrecisePlus kinda pushing it towards an end; the wall, so to speak, pushing it also to a side, it delivers more power, making a better connection, sort of...

    I have a 18,490 battery and using the "officially-recommended" configuration...

    A friend of mine is experiencing the same with his kicked 18,650...

    Weird... I know, but there you go... !!!

    What do you guys think...

    They are correctly configured and totally clean, no problems there... I know this makes no sense, but... Mmmm...

    How come... !?

    Try this and check if it's the same...

  2. snork

    snork Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 30, 2011
    I have definitely found that too, but only with the Kick. When the Kick begins cutting off because of sensing the lower voltage of the battery, I can eke out some more life by "side pressing" the button. I can't imagine why this would work and have often thought about posting your same question. One would think any button press would be as good as any other.
  3. revolver

    revolver Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 9, 2010
    Buenos Aires

    Maybe someone should measure the difference, power-wise... And come up with a reason...

    Anyway, thing is "I'm not alone", heeee...

    Kinda cool, though; it's like a "turbo feature", ahahahahahhhhh...

    I discovered that as my AW IMRs were a bit old and the difference is now 'big', same as with the kick. Try it without a Kick in case of batteries which are weak and you'll see...

    Maybe David could chime in... Or any other who has a theory to support this "side pressing" effect; difference... !?
  4. Vaporologist

    Vaporologist Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 26, 2010
    Epic Journey
    I haven't experienced that with my P+500 but it was quite noticeable with my original P18. It used to happen especially when it was time to clean the brass button screw.
  5. eLguSo

    eLguSo Full Member Verified Member

    Apr 26, 2011
    Yes man, I thought was alone, and a little bit crazy too!

    Side pressing is the rule!
  6. snork

    snork Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 30, 2011
    Well then we must find the answer. I don't accept that on a clean unit it should make any difference.
    What sorts of things could contribute?
    Loose button post?
    Dirty parts?
    Dirty battery?
    Beats me.
    What else, and why?
  7. revolver

    revolver Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 9, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    I'm on skype with eLguSo and we think the difference is ALWAYS there, just that it becomes obvious when there is a "weak link" such as a batt running low; dirty contacts, etc.

    We should measure unit under load "side pressing" versus non-side pressing and see what happens...
  8. snork

    snork Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 30, 2011
    I can see the difference always being there, that makes sense. But why? Could it be that when side pressing the button makes more contact with its housing? Would having a squeaky clean button and housing make a difference?
    It's time for me to sleep. Tomorrow and Friday we'll dig deeper. Better yet, you could solve it while I sleep. :)
  9. revolver

    revolver Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 9, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    I share the same doubts... I will also go to bed myself... And maybe I'll solve this in my dreams... However in my dreams mods work flawlessly no matter what... So I guess I won't experience any difference... ;)
  10. forcedfuel50

    forcedfuel50 Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    The PrecisePlus has a dual grounding switch, both via friction contact where it slides through the bottom shield and with the spring to button to body contact. Putting side pressure on it is increasing the load on the sidewalls of the shield to button connection.

    Stainless steel does oxidize, albeit at a very slow rate compared to aluminum, brass etc so a periodic cleaning is in order. You can wrap a piece of 400, 600 or 800 grit sand paper around a sharpie marker and run it through your shield in a twirling motion. Don't do it too much as you don't want to take material off, just enough to put a little cross hatch in it. You can also clean the ends of the spring with 400-800 grit. An eraser works good for in the shield, on the button sides (not the Rhodium contact though, don't ever clean that with more then a soft cloth) and the spring ends and spring contact areas.

    Just a reminder, don't sand or polish your rhodium contacts though, they never oxidize or corrode, just wipe those with a soft cloth.
  11. schismz

    schismz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 2, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    I noticed this a long time ago too, and while I know the official position on adding Noalox or Vaseline to the sides of the button where it glides up and down against the shield is a "no, don't need to do that." I personally find that when I do it anyway, every hit is a turbo-hit and no more fiddling with what angle I'm depressing the button at. FWIW works for me. Yes you do need to clean out the gunk every month or so, but it's not like I do anything super-intensive, I just wash it with some warm water and soap.
  12. RamShot Rowdy

    RamShot Rowdy Battery Police Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Nov 6, 2009
    Oklahoma, USA
    My old Super Six would do this when it was dirty. I've also noticed it with the Kick, when the battery is close to cut off as everyone described. I've never noticed the P+ do this when not using the kick though.
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