How dangerous is it to ship 100 mg? who is responsible if there is an accident

[Dougiestyle]

Being that nic is a poison and is dermally absorbed, I believe vendors should be paying the extra for hazmat shipping. Buyers would have to accomodate a higher rate of shipping cost, but that's an expense I'm willing to suffer just so I never see the day that a USPS employee has died due to high octane nicotine base leaking from a package. it only takes 10ml of 100mg nic to absorb through the skin to kill.

Package it like you care, mark it like it matters, or I don't want to buy.

 

[unknown_shooter]

Being that nic is a poison and is dermally absorbed, I believe vendors should be paying the extra for hazmat shipping. Buyers would have to accomodate a higher rate of shipping cost, but that's an expense I'm willing to suffer just so I never see the day that a USPS employee has died due to high octane nicotine base leaking from a package. it only takes 10ml of 100mg nic to absorb through the skin to kill.

Package it like you care, mark it like it matters, or I don't want to buy.

how *exactly* , are you going to "absorb" 10ml of 100mg/ml nic *through* your skin?

you arent going to - the skin isnt that porous, its biologically not possible. hazmat shipping for gunpowder adds an additional $27.50 to every purchase, and you cant ship it by usps any more.. are you willing to subject everyone in the US to fees like that without actually knowing *how* dangerous nic juice really is?

i wouldnt go swimming in nic juice naked, but I just finished * vaping * a "mini fling" that's 54mg/ml nic content with no ill effects, and your mucous membranes absorb nic at a far greater rate than your fingers do.

dont feed the hysteria without facts.

 

[Dougiestyle]

how *exactly* , are you going to "absorb" 10ml of 100mg/ml nic *through* your skin?



i wouldnt go swimming in nic juice naked, but I just finished * vaping * a "mini fling" that's 54mg/ml nic content with no ill effects, and your mucous membranes absorb nic at a far greater rate than your fingers do.

dont feed the hysteria without facts.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning
CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Systemic Agent: NICOTINE - NIOSH

You obviously need some facts. I've been at this for a couple years. I DIY 100mg. While I don't follow all recommended safety requirements, you can bet your life that if I spill 100mg on me I'm headed to the shower immediately. Nicotine absorbs through one's skin. It's scientific fact.

Ever heard of "the patch"?

Let's think about a possible real-life scenario based on the OP's cicumstances...

Willy the postal worker recovers OP's damaged package, containing 120 ml of 100mg/ml nicotine.
Willy gets some of this clear, odorless liquid on his hands. It feels like conditioner or skin moisturizer.
Willy wipes his hands on his pants.
Let's say Willy was subject to contact with 15ml of the liquid.
Willy still has 4hrs left on his shift before he goes home to take a shower and unwind.
10min after the contact with the damaged packaged which contained what Willy assumes was skin moisturizer, Willy forgets the incident.
30min before Willy's shift is over, he's feeling uneasy, his heart rate has increased and extremities are beginning to feel numb.
Just before Willy is about to puch the time clock, paramedics have been dispatched, because Willy has apparently suffered from a heart attack.
Poor Willy. How could he have known that the "skin moisurizer" was a hazardous poison that should immediately be cleansed if it comes in contact with skin?

If there was a hazmat sticker, Willy would be alive!

 

[bosun]

A paper envelope? Bound to fail!!
Bottle of nic juice in a zip-lock bag. Bubble wrap. Then a larger zip lock. A cardboard box with additional bubble wrap. I surely wouldn't order from that company again!

 

[dannyv45]

Regardless of the argument as to how dangerous nicotine is, it is still very irresponsible to package it poorly. Nuff said!

 

[BigCypress]

 

[BigCypress]

Just a little more insight,

the 120 ml bottle just had a regular screw cap ( not childproof) and wasn't sealed or anything. that was then wrapped in 1 layer of bubble wrap, put in a paper envelope.

I did contact the vendor, and explained the danger. the vendor is a chemist btw and i dont know why i needed to tell him to pack things better.

So they sent me a replacment, same size bottle, same packaging little bigger paper envelope.

Luckily the second shipment didn't break, but I couldnt believe that they sent it essentially the same way after the talk we had.

The "replacement" was sent the same way. Also you'd think they would throw in a lil somethin for my troubles... Nope.

 

[BigCypress]

Never
underestimate
dingo
enough

 

[glasseye]

There was a popular vendor here that used to send out nic in bubble mailers. There were pics shown here of what happened to the shipment, it was messy, like yours. While they still send flavorings out in bubble mailers, I'm almost positive that all nic goes out in a box, and were in effect self-regulated by their customers here. It might not be a bad idea to send your vendor a link to this thread so they can see what people think of getting nic in an envelope.
Buying bulk boxes is a lot cheaper than losing customers.

 

[r77r7r]

Sheesh, that doesn't look like it's even a bubble mailer.

 

[Mohamed]

Yeah I'd be worried if nic arrived like that too.

 

[r77r7r]

Bump.............

 

[Caridwen]

I doubt anybody is going to keel over and die, but it's not something you want to bathe in. Have you contacted USPS?

Yea, that's what I'd do so the USPS comes out with some sort of rule regarding not shipping nicotine.

 

[BigCypress]

nope not a bubble mailer

 

[FACE MEAT]

Never
underestimate
dingo
enough

Nicotine
Underwent
Damaging
Endeavor

 

[BigCypress]

thank you face, it was just too early but that is perfect

 

[FACE MEAT]

face, how much 100mg have you gotten on your skin?

A drop or two, here and there. Don't get me wrong,I believe one should be cautious when handling 100mg/mL nicotine base. One should be even more cautious when packaging 100mg/mL nicotine base for shipment.

I've never purchased from that vendor and certainly won't in the future.

 

[cookiebun]

OUTRAGEOUS!.
At least my nic was in a white bubble mailer and HARD plastic bottles.
I don't even use nic, I just wanted to have some "just in case".
I'd like to know who was stupid enough to ship 100mg nic like that as well (mine was only 60).
If they are on ECF the mods should know about this.

 

[BigCypress]

There was a popular vendor here that used to send out nic in bubble mailers. There were pics shown here of what happened to the shipment, it was messy, like yours. While they still send flavorings out in bubble mailers, I'm almost positive that all nic goes out in a box, and were in effect self-regulated by their customers here. It might not be a bad idea to send your vendor a link to this thread so they can see what people think of getting nic in an envelope.
Buying bulk boxes is a lot cheaper than losing customers.

I had recieved a shipment from another vendor and i snapped pix and sent them to him, triple sealed bags, bubble wrap, box.
He was talking to his "shipping dept" as if there are like 50 people working at this place, about sealing the shipments.

I think even just sealing the bottle cap itself with some elec tape would be a good start.



I'm not gonna give him the thread, cause he is a supplier here and can't post.

 

[BigCypress]

Yea, that's what I'd do so the USPS comes out with some sort of rule regarding not shipping nicotine.

Here is a mod now...

when i saw your name I thought for sure the thread was getting a lock... lol

So anyway, yes the supplier is a member here in the suppliers section.

If you want to know the supplier read between the lines.