I purchased my first real ecig about a month ago. A Silver Bullet with dual coil cartos, attys, a single 18650 batt and two sets of rcr123As. I wanted try out a few different setups to see what I liked best and settled pretty quickly on the 6v dual coil set up. I have read quite a few places that stacking batts is dangerous and they may explode so out of morbid curiosity I went over to Youtube to see how my life would end while smoking @6v and found no video proof that this can even happen. So my question is this: has anyone here EVER witnessed this happen under normal circumstances. I am starting to think this explosion thing is just greatly exaggerated battery theory. Why would these batts be allowed on airplanes if such a risk of a take your face off explosion was even remotely possible?
How dangerous is stacking for 6v? prove it.
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This may be helpful
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...rried-my-e-cig-might-explode.html#post5359039
This may be helpful
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...rried-my-e-cig-might-explode.html#post5359039
I think the simplest way to put it is, your doubling the voltage in the same space. Your doubling your chances of the batteries failing. Sometimes the mod itself is not rated for the higher stacked voltage, causing problems.
Learn about batteries and stacking batteries.
Learn about c rating.
Learn about amps.
Learn what amps a 1.5ohm DCC draws.
Please don't stack without knowledge and you must pay attention to detail.
Be safe dude.
Learn about c rating.
Learn about amps.
Learn what amps a 1.5ohm DCC draws.
Please don't stack without knowledge and you must pay attention to detail.
Be safe dude.
More detailed explanation.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9007-warning-rechargeable-batteries-mods.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9007-warning-rechargeable-batteries-mods.html
In the post you referred me to tube mods or the silver bullet are affected. Is this due to their lack of venting? If that is the case and the explosion is caused by a leaking or ruptured battery expanding into a sealed tube that in turn ruptures? If that is the case the Silver Bullet should be safe as air is able to free flow through the button? Or do the batts themselves literally explode?
If you're using stacked CR123 LiPo batteries, which I wouldn't, they should at least be matched pairs, charged to exactly the same voltage, with a charger specifically designed for charging LiPo batteries.
There is a reason why LiPo battery packs for rc cars, boats, planes, etc, have a separate balance lead, and chargers have a balancing port; so that the batteries in the pack are perfectly balanced.
There is a reason why LiPo battery packs for rc cars, boats, planes, etc, have a separate balance lead, and chargers have a balancing port; so that the batteries in the pack are perfectly balanced.
The formula for vaping safety looks something like:
(Single battery OR stacked batteries in a professionally engineered device with redundant built-in safety features)
is safer than
(Single battery in a device with few or no built-in safety features)
is safer than
(Stacked batteries in a device with few or no built-in safety features)
is safer than
(Putting paper-wrapped chemical-soaked plant material in your mouth and lighting it on fire multiple times daily for many years)
(Single battery OR stacked batteries in a professionally engineered device with redundant built-in safety features)
is safer than
(Single battery in a device with few or no built-in safety features)
is safer than
(Stacked batteries in a device with few or no built-in safety features)
is safer than
(Putting paper-wrapped chemical-soaked plant material in your mouth and lighting it on fire multiple times daily for many years)
Thanks for the replies so far. I have been referred to a number of informative posts with guidelines as to safe voltage with resistance @amps ect. These sights have been helpful. The batteries I am using are LiFePO4 RCR123A 3.0v Tenergys which I understand are not protected but are chemically safe. I know many of you are more technically inclined and would be awesome if you could post a video of what happens when a batt goes critical so I could get a visual. If the resulting failure was grandiose enough it may scare me back to 3.7v safety. How ever for now I will continue risking life and limb @6v. If I end up looking like that unfortunate Marine who lost his face to a blasting cap I will let you guys know when I get out of the hospital.
Multimeter, voltages, constantly checking.......For the record batteries can and do explode. It CAN happen. Some (if not most) are abuse, user error, or not having the proper knowledge to do it. Just be careful. Learn Learn Learn...
Good Luck,
Deach
From my understanding those batts cannot handle the amps that the 1.5ohm DCC draw.
No such thing as safe chemistry, only safer chemistry. Things can still go wrong.
I highly suggest a different set up, if you only want to use DCC's.
So I would be better or worse using standard resistance 2.5 DCC's?
Well after reviewing a dozen videos on Youtube of lithium batteries exploding I have come to the conclusion that I have very little to worry about. Every video that is able to demonstrate a failure is only able to do so using either a puncture via nail, or forcing a continued circuit. Either way the results were smoke before fire (if I see smoke coming from my Silver Bullets button, the thing is getting tossed far far away) and the fire in itself could hardly be called an explosion. When people say explode I think c4 not a fizzling fire like I witnessed. (all of the batteries were much larger than my 123 mind you) Furthermore I would think that the Bullets tube would become quite hot before going critical (a telltale sign of a problem) Worst case scenario in my eyes is very slim chance of mishap, that would result in a destroyed mod. The whole idea of a battery going *tick BOOM! with no warning is highly unlikely. I am by no means an expert but I see the truth in video not numbers on a chart. Just the same I appreciate the feedback.
well i stack 16 batteries at 48v down a big long tube, it vapes great!
in all seriousness tho, so long you dont use dodgy unmarked damaged batts, have even charge in them etc ect then they are no more dangerous than your average mobile or laptop batteries. incidents are extremely rare.
in all seriousness tho, so long you dont use dodgy unmarked damaged batts, have even charge in them etc ect then they are no more dangerous than your average mobile or laptop batteries. incidents are extremely rare.
Wow, how many people tell you the hazards. You read throughout a forum that tells you that they are hazardous, but you want to see a video where they blow up in someones mouth...
You obviously do not know much about how to use YouTube because there are several videos of batteries going off and others showing the aftermath from one that did go off. I was going to provide a link until your last statement. Look some more - there is video proof if that is what you need... The button vent is insufficient - especially in a stacked configuration. You now have a double loaded pipe bomb. If you want proof go look at some of the batter mod groups - they have lots of pics and videos for you peruse...
You obviously do not know much about how to use YouTube because there are several videos of batteries going off and others showing the aftermath from one that did go off. I was going to provide a link until your last statement. Look some more - there is video proof if that is what you need... The button vent is insufficient - especially in a stacked configuration. You now have a double loaded pipe bomb. If you want proof go look at some of the batter mod groups - they have lots of pics and videos for you peruse...Semiretired-
"Wow, how many people tell you the hazards. You read throughout a forum that tells you that they are hazardous"- thats where "prove it" comes in
"you want to see a video where they blow up in someones mouth"-no just a safe chem 123 forced to go critical without being punctured by a nail or thrown in a fire.
"there are several videos of batteries going off and others showing the aftermath from one that did go off"-seen them and they don't qualify as an explosion in my eyes but rather a small fire.
"I was going to provide a link until your last statement"- would still like to see the link if you find to the time.
"Wow, how many people tell you the hazards. You read throughout a forum that tells you that they are hazardous"- thats where "prove it" comes in
"you want to see a video where they blow up in someones mouth"-no just a safe chem 123 forced to go critical without being punctured by a nail or thrown in a fire.
"there are several videos of batteries going off and others showing the aftermath from one that did go off"-seen them and they don't qualify as an explosion in my eyes but rather a small fire.
"I was going to provide a link until your last statement"- would still like to see the link if you find to the time.
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