How do I convince current smokers or people who have....

[rlh445]

....tried the mall/drugstore PVs that these things work and that although it seems like (and sometimes is) more work than just buying a pack and lighting up that it's totally worth it? The other night I was out with my friend at karaoke night. Outside there were plenty of people who were familiar with the CONCEPT of PVs, but either had never actually used one or had and it hadn't taken (because they used Greensmoke/SmokeEverywhere) and they just weren't understanding. I heard, 'Yea but isn't this the same as smoking?,' or 'Meh, I tried it a couple times, still like my smokes more,' and my personal favorite, 'Jesus, that sounds like a ....load of work, man,'. I feel so bad because it CAN be work (just filling a Resurrector had me going on ECF to find out what method would work best) but I happen to be a guy that when starting up a new thing, gets a little OCD about it. I dive right in on the 'Net, read and think about it constantly and immerse myself in the new hobby. I know not everybody wants to get all into it like that, but even suggesting a simple (but very effective) GenJoye 510 with pre-fills seems to be a harder sell than it was for me. What can I do to help these people?

P.S. - The ones I talked to were very open to new information, and were curious..I wasn't cramming it down anyones' throat hehe.

P.S.2 - Maybe I should rephrase the question. I'm not looking to push drugs on people, lol. What I was trying to ask was - How do I convince people it's not that much of a chore to get into when they are ALREADY curious about it?

 

[on3fifth]

The only way I have found to get people to quit is facts. I think if they want to quit like really quit they will be willing to learn and test out a REAL pv. The way I have done it is letting my buddy barrow a pv like an ego or any extra pv you have and set them up don't make them work just set them up with juice and everything. Give it to them for a week see how they do. They need to want to quit.

 

[Renzuli]

Sorry to say , but it's very hard to convince some smokers to even try a PV . A close friend of mine only switched from Marlboro red's because they kicked him off the list , to get a kidney . They figured if he wasn't going to try to improve his overall health , he wasn't worth the new kidney . Happy to say now , that he has switched to PV's and is back on the list at John Hopkins . And now he admits , he really likes it better than smoking . A small success , but better than none .

 

[rlh445]

Very good answers! I mean, I would be willing to let people borrow my PVs (getting a couple of Twists in the mail this week) and I'd have no problem giving them 10ml bottles of some of my fave liquid and letting them try it out for a week. I'm glad to hear your friend has quit and is on the list for a new kidney, Ren!

I guess I just feel like vaping is something that very quickly turns from, 'Yea this could help me kick the habit or at least curb it,' to 'OMGNEEDMOREPVSANDLIQUIDNAO!,' and it's awesome..I just want everyone to feel that awesomeness.

 

[francis163]

I've given up a spare PV with varying success as one method. What's worked for me most of the time is explaining a few facts:

1.) In E-Liquid, all you're getting is pure pharmaceutical grade nicotine, not the other 4000 or so chemicals.
2.) Nicotine, by itself, is in the same family as caffeine, and is roughly the same in regards to "how bad it is for you." (This was coming from one of my ENT Docs that I work with, an oncologist in fact.)
3.) In the long run it's much much cheaper. Yes, the initial cost is high, but if you add up how much you'd spend on cigs in a 2 week - month period depending on where you live, the thing has paid for itself.
4.) Flavor options - An analog is an analog, they taste like hell and will always taste like hell, with a PV you get access to a ton of flavor options that can change as often as you'd like them to.
5.) Quitting doesn't have a date on it, others besides myself have lowered their nicotine intake and just vaped to compensate naturally, whenver I get a nic headache, I lower the level, easy stuff.
6.) It's a gadget, who doesn't like gadgets?

 

[kia2]

Most of the time, I don't say anything at all unless I'm asked. Now, I do get a few questions now and then, especially since my Volts don't look quite like the "normal" ecig/cigarette look, and I try to answer them honestly and to the best of my knowledge. I also keep four "loaner kits" on hand, and if I'm getting questions, I'll offer to let them take a kit with them for a day or two or a weekend to test the waters for themselves, and I'll hand them some website info, including that of ECF.

 

[arcturus]

Being too insisting can be counterproductive. Simply express the facts. You can add a couple of comparative comments between vaping ans smoking. There are different types of people that will be compelled by different factors. Those that have common sense will be swayed by the facts, sooner or later. Others will have to be exposed to the experience. Still others will have to see many people around them doing something before they try it because the have a herd mentality. All the same, I personally think the writing is on the wall and vaping can only increase.

 

[Prciosa]

I'd say to just put the info out there but there's no convincing someone to quit who's not ready to. A few years ago a friend of mine was recommended to start using e-cigs by his doctor and I thought it sounded like a horrible idea, forgot about it, and only recently stumbled upon the idea again. I've been smoking a pack of analogs a day for a long time and now I'm a newbie vaper (received my kgo 4 days ago). I'm happy to say that so far I've cut it down to 4 analogs a day and am hoping to eventually get off them altogether, but not putting any pressure on myself to get to that goal. I love the flavors and the experience and I'm sure I'll notice more benefits as I move forward in this vaping quest, but a couple of months ago nobody could have persuaded me to give up my cigs.

 

[cj904]

When a smoker ask me why vape? I normally say why not I get my nicotine I can smell and taste things, I don't smell like a ashtray, and I never quit smoking. I only took all the tar, carbon, and bazillion other chemicals out of my smokes and replaced it with stuff like, butterscotch, caramel chocolate, coke, or what ever you want. If that doesn't get them interested not much will.

 

[username1970]

uhhh, why do you feel the need to be an evangelist for vaping?

Seriously, I'm trying it out because I'm sick of the cost and hassle to get cigarettes but a lot of people here are sort of fanatical about it. That's fine if it's your thing but you don't want to turn into one of those aunties (virulent anti-smokers) do you?

It always did seem that some of the worst of those were former smokers themselves.

For me personally, I don't want to make vaping a hobby. I don't do that with my car even though I like driving. Other people spend hours and tons of money working on their cars. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with doing either but why the desire to convert others?

Let them come to you. It's still fairly new and when someone sees you using your PV they will probably be curious about it and ask questions. That's a good opportunity for you but you're not going to convince everyone and I'm not sure if you remember from your smoking days (I assume you used to smoke conventional cigarettes) there are few people more annoying than those who constantly try to tell you how bad it is. You know those people who make fake coughing noises if they even see a pack of cigarettes and bring measuring tape with them to make sure you're the full 50 feet away from an entrance.

 

[Dana A]

I think we have had such a positive change in our lives from vaping that we are all at times overly eager to spread our sunshine to others. We all just want to help.We know 1st hand how great vaping is vrs smoking. Who wouldn't want to spread that around?

 

[Jixchel]

Give them the info and let them decide. It is all you can do, no matter how hard you try some people just can't be convinced of anything. Steer them in the direction of this site, there is a lot of good info and leave the deciding up to them. I've had people ask me what the hell am smoking when I vape, I tell them, I let them try it if I know them and tell them how long it has been since the last analog. Luckily where I live there are actually 2 stores that sell the better kits and the e liquid and one has the bigger mods so I steer them to the shop closest to them if they are really interested for people who can better answer their questions.

 

[JQside]

Trying to convince people to quit smoking is all well and good. But we have to admit that most would rather continue with the habit. They enjoy it immensely. It's a major part of their lives. We've been there. I'd rather let them decide when to quit. They will, eventually. That's the best time to be there for them. Just my 2c.

 

[Forkeh]

Unfortunately, you can't convince someone to vape. Smoking is a personal choice, and a person is very likely to smoke until they're good and ready to quit, no matter how they quit. Someone may say they need to quit smoking, and may try to quit. But until they want to quit, truly and honestly want to quit, it's not going to happen.

Vaping is a wonderful tool, but only works if you want it to. All you can do is inform them.

 

[humpty]

They will only pay attention if they actually wanna quit. Aside from that you can mention the negative stuff of analogs that they probably don't like either, like the smell and the price.

 

[kingcobra]

I explain vaping with enthusiasm to anyone who asks, however I agree that we really shouldn't be looking to push this stuff on anyone who isn't really interested. If they are though we can push them in the right direction. Remember that outsiders really don't know much about vaping. So you tell them how cheap it is, that it isn't necessarily a stop smoking thing although many people end up switching in time, it's dirt cheap, you can "smoke" wherever you want, etc. Let them make up their own mind though and don't feel like you need to preach to them too much. If you do then you are probably less likely to reach them anyway.

 

[rlh445]

uhhh, why do you feel the need to be an evangelist for vaping?

P.S. - The ones I talked to were very open to new information, and were curious..I wasn't cramming it down anyones' throat hehe.

Asked and answered.

 

[Desiderata]

To the OP. Some people won't quit or switch over to a PV. I have several Mods and my Dad will not take one vape even with a new drip tip and Atomizer. He is 56 and is just old school. I really don't know any people around my age 35 or younger who don't think it's "a bit safer" even just plane out looks "cooler looking". I can now vape in their houses now because no second hand smoke. It's great. I dive into the deep end of things way to fast also.

 

[inanitydefined]

Remember that people tend to be cynical and what we're saying often sounds too good to be true. Think back to one month or so before you started. Now imagine some stranger with a chrome cigar is telling you about this miraculous little nicotine fog machine. Imagine this stranger tells you that its not only better tasting, cleaner smelling, harder hitting, and healthier than a cigarette, but cheaper also. What's your knee jerk reaction? Mine;bullsh**

 

[Zanza]

I've tried to convince my wife to PV, but no success. I bought her a mini, preparing myself the cartridges for her, no way: she prefer smoking

And when talking about a bigger ecig than a mini, she laugh at me and says no