Micro vs nano vs horizontal vs vertical?? What method do you use and why? What gauge kanthal? Just wondering. I use 28 gauge, but thinking about dropping to 26
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How do you build your coils?
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i build vertical microcoils with 27 gauge kanthal a-1 on my origen
on everything else, i build horizontal micros with the same kanthal
on everything else, i build horizontal micros with the same kanthal
I just wind my own coils here and there when I'm running low in stock coils. But them, I'm just rebuilding Kanger heads using 5 or 6 wraps, so I use 32 gauge Kanthal because it gives me the +/- 2 ohm resistance I'm looking for. I'd probably get better performance from smaller wire. Wire size is dependent on space in the atomizer and what resistance you are trying to achieve.
horizontal micros using 28 gauge and cotton - usually in and around the 1.3 ohm range (results in about .6 with a dual setup). Vertical with genny's, sometimes duals with them, too.
Not a real cloud chaser - vast majority of my builds can be fired by regulated devices. Loving the KFL+ on a provari.
Not a real cloud chaser - vast majority of my builds can be fired by regulated devices. Loving the KFL+ on a provari.
I use 28ga. Kanthal, horizontal micro coil on Kayfun/Russian. I use a machine screw to wrap the coil getting perfectly spaced coils then squeeze them together with tweezers on the first dry burn to get my micro coil, then I stuff the cotton through it. I usually aim for 1.5ohms I think it's 6 wraps with the machine screw I use, couldn't tell you what size it is, I just grabbed it out of a bin of household odds&ends junk.
In my Kayfun lite+ I build side-by-side dual coils. 30gage kanthal wrapped around the shaft of the smallest micro screwdriver I own. Not sure of the ID but smaller than 1/16th. Usually right around .8ohms.
Everything else I build on a 1/16th drill bit. Horizontal coils. 28gage kanthal to .9-1.1ohm for mechs, 30gage to 1.8-2.2ohm for electronics.
I will occasionally twist wires or try different things but the above are my day-in, day-out builds.
Everything else I build on a 1/16th drill bit. Horizontal coils. 28gage kanthal to .9-1.1ohm for mechs, 30gage to 1.8-2.2ohm for electronics.
I will occasionally twist wires or try different things but the above are my day-in, day-out builds.
So far I have been doing 1\16"horizontal micro coming in at 1.1 ohm. on my kfl's and Igo-w. Try'ed vert. coils and I guess I don't have enough experience with them as the results were iffy. Either too much or not enough cotton, and harder to wrap around coils. Just too much fuss for me. Other's have had great success with them.
I get good results with my micro's,quick and easy to set up.
Oh ya, 28 ga kanthal on 1\16" drill bit. 9 wraps.
I get good results with my micro's,quick and easy to set up.
Oh ya, 28 ga kanthal on 1\16" drill bit. 9 wraps.
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32 ga Kanthal dula 12 wraps @ .90 ohms works for me. I wrap these on sewing needles. Size of the needle is about the same as the M4 allen wrenches that comes with the clones. I use cotton but I don't thread the wicks through the coils, just overlap them.
Dave, I usually go for around 1 ohm, but sometime I'll do a single coil around .8 ohms. Just depends on the day. Thanks
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32 ga Kanthal dula 12 wraps @ .90 ohms works for me. I wrap these on sewing needles. Size of the needle is about the same as the M4 allen wrenches that comes with the clones. I use cotton but I don't thread the wicks through the coils, just overlap them.
Sirius, does it wic well with overlapping it like that?
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I settled for very simple builds that work well in my choice of RDA's (A7)
I use a 5/6 wrap 30 or 32 ga, dependant on the voltage drop under load of the PV I'm building it for, and wrap around three strands of 0.8mm silica. (so old school so far)
When I do the wrap it starts out looking like this.
Then I use the old thumb nails to make it look like this.
Then I dry burn and use tweezers to squeeze the coils into a micro.
And, after almost two months worth of use, it looks like this.
I use a 5/6 wrap 30 or 32 ga, dependant on the voltage drop under load of the PV I'm building it for, and wrap around three strands of 0.8mm silica. (so old school so far)
When I do the wrap it starts out looking like this.
Then I use the old thumb nails to make it look like this.
Then I dry burn and use tweezers to squeeze the coils into a micro.
And, after almost two months worth of use, it looks like this.
I do all sorts of builds all the time, but I prefer micro-coils (proper micro micro-coils - usually 1.3mm or less).
As I just built this tonight, here's my current build on my MiniPT2 - 30AWG, 11/10 wrap, 1.2mm - 1.8Ω
As I just built this tonight, here's my current build on my MiniPT2 - 30AWG, 11/10 wrap, 1.2mm - 1.8Ω
It does Mattpelt -- and I don't have to change the cotton as much.
28g horizontal micro, 9 wraps on the dz jig using the piano wire mandrel. Hits right at 1 ohm, perfect for my kayfuns.
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I settled for very simple builds that work well in my choice of RDA's (A7)
I use a 5/6 wrap 30 or 32 ga, dependant on the voltage drop under load of the PV I'm building it for, and wrap around three strands of 0.8mm silica. (so old school so far)
When I do the wrap it starts out looking like this.
Then I use the old thumb nails to make it look like this.
Then I dry burn and use tweezers to squeeze the coils into a micro.
And, after almost two months worth of use, it looks like this.
The aqua clone I picked up had coils that looked like your top picture. Extremely uniform. But spaced out. Why are a lot of the premade coils spread, and a lot of the builds pinched so tight they are like a tube?
The ones I'm building look like a solid tube when I'm done. I'm going to have to wind one sloppy to see if it makes a difference?
I found the easiest way to get them literally perfect is to scrunch it together still on the bit, grab both loose ends in vice grips and pull. Hard. It will cement them into a bunched coil if you've already torched them. Torching them again between tweezers is when they get wonky like a slinky especially if they're taller. (For me).
So, anyone care to guess why shipped coils are loose?
Because the coil wrappers at the factory haven't cought up with what's going on in the real world.
Actually, at a factory they would never heat the coils to make a micro, nor would they ever use cotton wick.
(once the coils have been heated, they can never be left dry)
Because the coil wrappers at the factory haven't cought up with what's going on in the real world.
Actually, at a factory they would never heat the coils to make a micro, nor would they ever use cotton wick.
(once the coils have been heated, they can never be left dry)
I like that answer.
Vertical build I did on the rocket. Also lined this one with cotton. No wicking thru the coil, as the coiled is directly in line with the bottom air hole, so that air is sucked through the coil. I like this one. 32 gauge kanthal. 1.3 ohm
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