How do you feel about Clones?

[dice57]

Until these companies stop ripping us ex smokers off, then its clones for me I'm afraid, if they dropped there prices they would sell much more and end up making more money in the long run

Seriously?? Ripping us off??? REALLY??? Come on, my current Best of the Best, most optimal vape potential possible, to date, on this arm of the Milky Way, was the intensive R & D of 3 years of beta trials, feed back input, tweaking and redefining vape. An engineering wonder of precise tolerances, and was more than satisfied with the 130 Euro price, or whatever the Greek equivalent was.

Feeling ripped off?? Hardly, Experiencing one of the best possible Total vape Satisfaction Experiences that I'll likely ever to have in my remaining years of life?? Yep, Now Ges Estia, that's one Damn fine Vape, well worth the Investment. Sure, big upfront, but looking at over 10 years, possibly much, much, longer, years of service, hardly think that is a rip off. What other investment gives a better dollar to year of service????

Clones are always a gamble, and if one is extremely LUCKY, 3 out of 5 clone gambles, would be like a good thing, 2 acceptable out of 5 is the norm, with bonus points if parts can be salvaged for other gear. . Seriously, much better odds playing craps and shooting dice


Vape long and Prosper.!!!

 

[longhornvap]

I like some clones but not all because clones are really cheap than authentics.

 

[DaveSignal]

clones and authentic, thrive on each other, and actually promote each other. Clone are a great way to try something new, but rarely live up to the standard of an Authentic. Clones are a gamble, mainly becauce of qc, authentic is a sure thing, 99% of the time. One can't judge the quality of an Authentic from the clone, often the clone can't even come close, in vape, let alone quality control.

Clones track record for me is like 2 out 5 are acceptable, 1 out of 10 is as good, maybe. Just saying.!!

I agree with this statement, although my clone RDAs have fared a little bit better with about half having problems, some of which I could fix with small parts I have lying around in my vape cabinet. With the case of mech mods, though, this is just a metal tube with a switch. The clones will work and last just as long as the authentics and the only thing that really needs attention to is if the threading is good, the metal is high quality, and the voltage drop is low. Its great that we have reviewers like twisted420 who frequently compare clones with authentics. Some clones actually perform better than the authentic versions.

 

[Equilibrium]

I own quite a few clones and they all perform very well. I have no complaints. Would I rant and rave about their performance and quality... not really. I mean they are all great quality and function flawlessly, but I wouldn't scream "you gotta try this!!" I probably wouldn't with authentic tube mods either though. The only exception would be all four of the Ehpro Kayfun lite + clones that I own. They are all superb RTA's. I would recommend them to anyone. Are they better than the original Svoemesto Kayfun's.... probably not. If you can afford the original, I say go for it.

On the other hand... I own two authentic LP Reo Grands (no one makes clones of the Reo) and they are by far the best mods that I own. I would strongly recommend them to anyone. They are so good - the Reo is the only mod I use now. Not everyone can afford $200+ for a mod though. I'm Glad Rob has patented his design so they can't be cloned and sold. Rob (the owner of reosmods) saw a need and through some awesome innovation, he filled it very well. I'll gladly pay top dollar for superb craftsmanship and innovation.

A straight tube with caps and a button.... that's a glorified flashlight that someone is trying to capitalize on. Some people see design and innovation in that same tube and if they want to spend a lot of money for that tube.... who am I to judge?

Once you buy a Reo - you'll quit fooling around with all that other stuff anyway.

 

[tj99959]

Well the authentics for mechanical mods are designed and manufactured in small runs, sometimes by just one or a few people. Some of these originals are very hard to acquire, even if you were willing to pay for one. Although careful attention is paid to every aspect of the machining, most people get authentics because it is kind of a collectors item. If the purpose for purchasing is functionality, there is little reason not to buy a high quality 1:1 clone.

Some people would be proud to have a baseball bat signed by Mickey Mantle, even though it would work exactly the same as any other baseball bat, including ones that had a fake Mickey Mantle signature. But thats not really the reason that someone would own a signed Mickey Mantle baseball bat.

If only that were true. I've seen some originals that were better suited for fishing weights or boat anchors.

Trust me, China doesn't own the patent rights for producing junk.

Once you buy a Reo - you'll quit fooling around with all that other stuff anyway.

Well why is it that Rob has needed to produce a 'new & improved' version almost every month this year?

 

[Equilibrium]

If only that were true. I've seen some originals that were better suited for fishing weights or boat anchors.

Trust me, China doesn't own the patent rights for producing junk.



Well why is it that Rob has needed to produce a 'new & improved' version almost every month this year?

Because of the "cloud chasing" craze.

He's had to upgrade the button, contact switch and spring to accommodate extreme sub-ohm builds. That's another thing.... when you purchase a Reo - you also get "Rob". If he see's a problem, an issue or a need, he fixes it. Also if your device needs something fixed or something "special" done to it or modified with it - you just send it in and Rob will take care of it. He also offers every part to completely rebuild your Reo on his site at very reasonable prices.

 

[DaveSignal]

Once you buy a Reo - you'll quit fooling around with all that other stuff anyway.

Is there a Reo that works with RDAs?

 

[Equilibrium]

Is there a Reo that works with RDAs?

That's all that works on a Reo.... Bottom feed RDA's.

Drippers that are modified to feed from the bottom instead of dripping from the top,

 

[tj99959]

Is there a Reo that works with RDAs?

No, there are RDAs that work on the Reo. So it's the other way around.

That's all that works on a Reo.... Bottom feed RDA's.

What do you mean "that's all that works"?!?

Old dripping atties & cartos work just fine.

 

[Barbchris]

I don't have many authentics, one RDA & one 50 watt box. Personally, I own clones for 3 reasons 1) I like diversity & enjoy trying new things. Couldn't do that if my RDAs cost over $100 each 2) I am a world-class klutz & lose small pieces. Like ALL of the time I would be so upset if that little pin I lost was from an authentic mod, rather than a replaceable clone 3) vape spending guilt! I have a ton of juice, more gear than I need & I feel guilty every time I succumb to shinyists. It would be so much worse if I spent hundreds at a time. That's just me.

I can see one good reason to buy authentics, resale value. I see so many authentics selling 2nd hand for @ or near sticker price. Some become rare & difficult to attain & sellers can ask more than they paid. With a clone, not so much. Lucky to get 1/2 what u paid.

My 2 cents.

 

[DaveSignal]

No, there are RDAs that work on the Reo. So it's the other way around.



What do you mean "that's all that works"?!?

Old dripping atties & cartos work just fine.

OK, so here are some of the atomizers that I currently own:
tobh 2.5
comp doge
mutation x
mutation x v2
tugboat
tugboat v2
magma
brass monkey
dark horse
plume veil
veritas
stillare
454
cats
mephisto
onslaught
little boy

AFAIK, none of these are made to feed from the bottom. Does this mean that I can't use a Reo?

 

[tj99959]

OK, so here are some of the atomizers that I currently own:
tobh 2.5
comp doge
mutation x
mutation x v2
tugboat
tugboat v2
magma
brass monkey
dark horse
plume veil
veritas
stillare
454
cats
mephisto
onslaught
little boy

AFAIK, none of these are made to feed from the bottom. Does this mean that I can't use a Reo?

Yup.

Here is what you can use.
Rebuildable atomizer & supplies

 

[DaveSignal]

Yup.

Here is what you can use.
Rebuildable atomizer & supplies

lol. ok, so I think that I am much happier using my mech mods (including many clones) which work with all of the devices that I have.

 

[Equilibrium]

No, there are RDAs that work on the Reo. So it's the other way around.



What do you mean "that's all that works"?!?

Old dripping atties & cartos work just fine.

Well.... anything with a standard 510 connection will "work" on a Reo But it won't bottom feed.

RDA's that are designed / modified to bottom feed AND Carto's that are BF will work.

 

[skoony]

Every mod maker out there is "ripping off intellectual property" in one way or another. They aren't developing brand new ways of vaping. There are those out there who can't afford the exorbitant prices of "authentics", so for them, buying a clone is the grown up decision, I.e. not wasting a meager budget on expensive vape gear instead of paying bills. It tends to be the younger more immature type that will drop all of their money on some item they want (usually an item that carries bragging rights in the circles they move in), and not worry about their more important responsibilities like bills and how they are going to feed themselves for the month.

design,illustration,and ergonomics combine to make ones mod not
simply a battery holder.in any other market they are called counterfeits.
if buying a counterfeit is an adult decision so be it. i don't want to hear any complaining
from clone buyers on how they are being ripped off of their hard earned
money by evil mod makers.send your money directly to China.
even though its one of the reasoms our economy sucks and can't provide
jobs that pay decent enough to be able to afford some nicer things.
keep on living that self fulfilling prophesy.

mike

 

[tj99959]

design,illustration,and ergonomics combine to make ones mod not
simply a battery holder.in any other market they are called counterfeits.
if buying a counterfeit is an adult decision so be it. i don't want to hear any complaining
from clone buyers on how they are being ripped off of their hard earned
money by evil mod makers.send your money directly to China.
even though its one of the reasoms our economy sucks and can't provide
jobs that pay decent enough to be able to afford some nicer things.
keep on living that self fulfilling prophesy.

mike

None of my Caravela, Chi You, Mako, or Nemesis originals were made in the US (or China)
So I guess that argument is very valid, is it!

 

[skoony]

None of my Caravela, Chi You, Mako, or Nemesis originals were made in the US (or China)
So I guess that argument is very valid, is it!

90 % valid.better than government.

mike

 

[Equilibrium]

OK, so here are some of the atomizers that I currently own:
tobh 2.5
comp doge
mutation x
mutation x v2
tugboat
tugboat v2
magma
brass monkey
dark horse
plume veil
veritas
stillare
454
cats
mephisto
onslaught
little boy

AFAIK, none of these are made to feed from the bottom. Does this mean that I can't use a Reo?

It doesn't mean that none of them can't be used on a Reo, it just means they they would have to be modified to bottom feed.

I have 3 bottom feeders that I bought from Reosmods - an Rm2 , Rm3 (modified A6), & Rm4 (modified Atomic)

I also have a Helios and a Stillare that I modified myself and I have an Origen that I purchased the BF kit for. So just because your dripper wasn't meant to bottom feed doesn't mean it can't.

 

[Norrin]

Just got to add my 2 cents. Although I would rather buy a cheap original I have never seen any real arguments against clones that hold any water. Yes I think that using someone's logo is a bit underhand, but charging a huge price for a tube with a switch is too IMO.

 

[KurrptSenate]

I feel alright about them

but I don't have the heart to tell them to their face

"Son, you weren't conceived by "normal" methods. You're a clone"