How does the RES work? I don't get it.

Status
Not open for further replies.

WiiWok

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
May 22, 2010
214
10
Washington State
So, I see a ceramic tube that is porous and absorbs liquid. What I don't understand is how the liquid gets into the atomizer.

Also, there are 2 methods to wick the ceramic; either remove the ceramic and wet it directly, or drip through the top.

Method 2, dripping through the top, doesn't seem any different than dripping onto an atomizer on any PV. How does this dripping method wet the ceramic?

I've gone through all of Nate's videos and there really isn't an explanation for "how" it works, although it appears to work well :)

I'm really considering an Alpha but I'd like to understand the RES system a little more.
 
Last edited:

jayvolt

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 12, 2011
612
232
48
West Palm Beach FL USA
Do you direct drip? If so you have at least once flooded the atty. Now I do not work for these guys, and they may have a better answer, but as far as I can tell the ceramic core holds juice as you suck on the atty it bring in new juice via the air inlet holes that coincidentally juice leaks out of when you overfill.
 

Slo Ryd

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Jul 8, 2009
994
116
City of Trees
www.innovapor.com
So, I see a ceramic tube that is porous and absorbs liquid. What I don't understand is how the liquid gets into the atomizer.

Also, there are 2 methods to wick the ceramic; either remove the ceramic and wet it directly, or drip through the top.

Method 2, dripping through the top, doesn't seem any different than dripping onto an atomizer on any PV. How does this dripping method wet the ceramic?

I've gone through all of Nate's videos and there really isn't an explanation for "how" it works, although it appears to work well :)

I'm really considering an Alpha but I'd like to understand the RES system a little more.

The RES has a lots of microscopic pores that hold the liquid. When you take a drag, air is forced through the holes in the top of the RES. The air travels through the pores which releases the liquid. The liquid travels down to the bottom of the RES and gets sucked up into the atomizer. Thats how the RES works.

As for the dripping through the atomizer, technically no it is no different from direct dripping. The difference is how much liquid you can drip in. What I tell people to do is this. Drip about 10 drops down into your atomizer. Enough to fill right up to the top of the drip tip. Then gently blow through your atomizer to push the liquid through the atomizer and up into the RES. Repeat this step as necessary for which ever model you have, until the RES is full. Then you will not have to drip for quite some time because the RES will keep the liquid supply flowing into the atomizer as you continue to puff on it. Hope that helps explain a little better. If you have any other questions let me know.

Tony
 

WiiWok

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
May 22, 2010
214
10
Washington State
Do you direct drip? If so you have at least once flooded the atty. Now I do not work for these guys, and they may have a better answer, but as far as I can tell the ceramic core holds juice as you suck on the atty it bring in new juice via the air inlet holes that coincidentally juice leaks out of when you overfill.

Going on the assumption that it draws liquid through the air holes leads me to a few additional questions.

1) Does a hard inhale draw more liquid than a lighter inhale?
2) It seems that this method of atomizer filling would lead to flooding?
3) Does the atomizer "gurgle" and is getting a mouthful of a juice a problem with this method?

I'm >.< this close to buying an Ultra or Ultramax but I can't justify dropping a chunk of change without fully understanding the RES system :)
 

Slo Ryd

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Jul 8, 2009
994
116
City of Trees
www.innovapor.com
Going on the assumption that it draws liquid through the air holes leads me to a few additional questions.

1) Does a hard inhale draw more liquid than a lighter inhale?
2) It seems that this method of atomizer filling would lead to flooding?
3) Does the atomizer "gurgle" and is getting a mouthful of a juice a problem with this method?

I'm >.< this close to buying an Ultra or Ultramax but I can't justify dropping a chunk of change without fully understanding the RES system :)

Here are the answers to your questions:

1. Yes, the harder in you inhale the more liquid it will pull through into the atomizer.
2. Yes you could flood the it but it would be hard to. Mainly it just takes a bit of practice to know when you are reaching the full capacity of the RES.
3. No, if you hear a gurgle sound, simply blow through the atomizer again to get the excess liquid back into the RES.
 
So, I see a ceramic tube that is porous and absorbs liquid. What I don't understand is how the liquid gets into the atomizer.

Also, there are 2 methods to wick the ceramic; either remove the ceramic and wet it directly, or drip through the top.

Method 2, dripping through the top, doesn't seem any different than dripping onto an atomizer on any PV. How does this dripping method wet the ceramic?

I've gone through all of Nate's videos and there really isn't an explanation for "how" it works, although it appears to work well :)

I'm really considering an Alpha but I'd like to understand the RES system a little more.

Here is a section of our wbesite devoted to information about the Apex Alpha:About Alpha Electronic Cigarette: ApexVapor

Here you go:

res_in-action.png


Do you direct drip? If so you have at least once flooded the atty. Now I do not work for these guys, and they may have a better answer, but as far as I can tell the ceramic core holds juice as you suck on the atty it bring in new juice via the air inlet holes that coincidentally juice leaks out of when you overfill.

Yep you got it!

When you over-drip into a normal e cig it will drain out of the vent holes. These are small holes on all atomizers that allow air to enter the atomizer upstream of the heating element itself. In the Apex Alpha, this fluid is re-directed to a chamber holding a ceramic wick. The wick then in turn draws excess fluid from the atomizer itself, keeping it from flooding.

When you draw air through the Apex Alpha RES the air is forced through this ceramic media. This flow of air across the ceramic then displaces the fluid stored in the ceramic towards the air inlets noted above, and on into the atomizer.

Hope this helps!

Nate
 

WiiWok

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
May 22, 2010
214
10
Washington State
Here is a section of our wbesite devoted to information about the Apex Alpha:About Alpha Electronic Cigarette: ApexVapor

Here you go:


Yep you got it!

When you over-drip into a normal e cig it will drain out of the vent holes. These are small holes on all atomizers that allow air to enter the atomizer upstream of the heating element itself. In the Apex Alpha, this fluid is re-directed to a chamber holding a ceramic wick. The wick then in turn draws excess fluid from the atomizer itself, keeping it from flooding.

When you draw air through the Apex Alpha RES the air is forced through this ceramic media. This flow of air across the ceramic then displaces the fluid stored in the ceramic towards the air inlets noted above, and on into the atomizer.

Hope this helps!

Nate


Thanks guys :) Makes sense, and a very ingenius design.

Expect an order shortly! Just trying to decide between the Ultra and Ultramax.
 
Actually, one more set of questions.

Once the ceramic is fully saturated what happens to excess fluid at that point? I'm guessing it pools at the bottom of the atomizer?

At that point what's the best way to alleviate that problem?

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, what should you do if you overfill?

Thanks!

Correct, once the res is saturated the atomizer will fill. I just unscrew the atomizer and blow it out.
 

Slo Ryd

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Jul 8, 2009
994
116
City of Trees
www.innovapor.com
Thanks guys :) Makes sense, and a very ingenius design.

Expect an order shortly! Just trying to decide between the Ultra and Ultramax.

What are you trying to decide between on the Ultra vs. UltraMax? Maybe I can help you figure out which one will be better for you. I've helped quite a few people with their decision.
 

WiiWok

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
May 22, 2010
214
10
Washington State
What are you trying to decide between on the Ultra vs. UltraMax? Maybe I can help you figure out which one will be better for you. I've helped quite a few people with their decision.

I decided on the Ultra with RES. I was debating on the 1ml vs 2ml and decided 1ml will be enough since the filling seems simple enough. The 2nd factor was 6v, but it looks like the Ultra has got that covered with a pair of 14250 batts.

With all that in mind, my order has been placed and I'm looking forward to my new toy.
 

Slo Ryd

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Jul 8, 2009
994
116
City of Trees
www.innovapor.com
I decided on the Ultra with RES. I was debating on the 1ml vs 2ml and decided 1ml will be enough since the filling seems simple enough. The 2nd factor was 6v, but it looks like the Ultra has got that covered with a pair of 14250 batts.

With all that in mind, my order has been placed and I'm looking forward to my new toy.

Good choice. I see you chose express as well. I will get your order shipped tomorrow and you should be steady vaping by Friday.

Cheers,
Tony
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread