How is temp control different from vaping at lower wattage?

[Phone Guy]

This is a question I have kept asking myself. How is temp control different from vaping at lower wattage?

So if I vape at 15w or 20w... And if I use temp control at 450f... How is that different from vaping at say 10w or 13.5w? Or whatever........

I've seen the videos. Read so many posts and articles my head is spinning. It seems like if you set a temp and wattage, the coil heats up to approximately the desired temp, and cuts power if it needs to in order to maintain temp. According to the videos I've watched the actual coil temp varies greatly from the setting depending on any number of variables, build, atty, connection, etc.

Isn't vaping at a lower wattage kind of along the same lines?

The no dry hit thing, I mean I think the majority of experienced vapers can successfully build their atty to wick according to their vaping style... Are you really getting consistent dry hits to the point of needing "temp control"? If I get dry hit after dry hit, I adjust the wicking to wick better....

I'm trying to understand if temp control improves the vape beyond a standard wattage/voltage setup or is it a fad and or gimmick...? I actually kind of see it more as a selling point for new vapers than appealing to experienced vapers...? (though I just got thru ordering a bunch of dna4os lol)

(I hope that made sense reading it, it made sense in my head as I typed it on this tiny mobile phone keyboard)

 

[Vooper]

This sounds practically identical to what everyone said when variable wattage appeared on the market.

It's far from essential, but it's definitely nice to have.

 

[dr g]

It is an entirely new paradigm of vaping and completely redefines the way vaping works. It largely divorces power from vaping performance.

To use your specific example of low wattage, low wattage generally means slower ramp times; temp control allows you to pump as much power as you like into your coil to ramp temperature faster without risk. But then you can then limit temperature fairly low and get a cooler, lower volume hit like low wattage.

Temperature to a large degree opens up a dimension of vaping that unregulated temperature did not allow -- the time dimension. You can take complete control over your hit, hit it as short or as long as you like and you are not beholden to the heat buildup in the atomizer or coil, or the performance of your build, or the amount of power you push, etc.

 

[Dioxyde]

Good points phone guy, temperature control certainly isn't necessary for the experienced as you say, but it's still a pretty damn nice feature to have. You know that feeling you get when you're rollin the dice on the amount of juice left in your tank/wick, you think there's enough but you're not sure? You just want one more vape but you don't want to refill it? Temperature control effectively removes that anxiety, improving the experience overall. Imagine the new people who get dry hits and decide to ditch vaping altogether too, as temperature control becomes a new standard it will make things easier on everyone, I look forward to it.

 

[stevegmu]

I think it is a marketing gimmick, not yet ready For mods. So far I think only Vuse has perfected it. Impossible to get a dry hit from them...

 

[Phone Guy]

I think it is a marketing gimmick, not yet ready For mods. So far I think only Vuse has perfected it. Impossible to get a dry hit from them...

Vuse? Your not talking about the cigalike?

 

[stevegmu]

Vuse? Your not talking about the cigalike?

Yeah. I got some last weekend and couldn't get a dry or burnt hit. They have some type of temp control...

 

[Dioxyde]

Interesting, I actually have one from when I was out once without any of my regular gear. 48mg liquid in that thing, insane, but true to form for big tobacco, and tasted like crap, I gave it to a friend who was about to pick up cigs again though and he liked it. Why do you say the temp control isn't ready for mods are people having issues with it working as intended? Something that regulates temperature and removes the need to worry about wick saturation seems to have real appeal outside of a marketing gimmick, to me. Anything that simplifies vaping without degrading performance is a plus in my book.

 

[stevegmu]

From the threads on here, the setups aren't really for beginners, the PRC chips don't work all that well, if at all, and the DNA chips have had numerous issues...

 

[dr g]

Yeah it's no marketing gimmick, he's been on this kick for a long time now as thousands and thousands of people find out otherwise.

 

[stevegmu]

I have yet to find an explanation as to how it is a benefit for low power vapers who never get dry or burnt hits. For those pushing high power and low ohms who aren't experienced enough to avoid burnt or dry hits, it may be great, when the technology is perfected...

 

[dr g]

Well I just explained it, but there are none so blind as those who will not see.

 

[Kidd2244]

Imo I believe the biggest difference is using nickel wire. For me I get better flavor with nickel then I do kanthal. I suspect it's the nickel that's giving me better flavor than it is the temp control. Either way temp control rocks I can take really long drags like I like.

 

[Phone Guy]

I've read good and bad, the bad being stories of the learning curve I suppose. I can respect the concept, don't get me wrong. I also just ordered a bunch of temp control stuff, chips, mods, wire....I'm getting on board.

The dry hit thing doesn't faze me, I rarely get a dry hit. One of the big selling points I keep hearing being made is safety for liquids....that makes me laugh. We honestly don't know what the long term affects of vaping are yet. I can appreciate the safety portion, but c'mon. You want safe? Don't vape, don't smoke.

Like I said, I have yet to vape temp controlled, but I know I like a semi warm vape, generally in the 15w to 20w range, and that's what I vape. Does temp control improve the vape for experienced vapers?

If your on ECF more than once a day, your obsessed with the enthusiast side of vaping like I am. We buy the cool toys, like having the latest and greatest, and that's fine... I'm just not sure I understand the obsession with temp control yet. I'm going to find out!

 

[Vooper]

I've read good and bad, the bad being stories of the learning curve I suppose. I can respect the concept, don't get me wrong. I also just ordered a bunch of temp control stuff, chips, mods, wire....I'm getting on board.

The dry hit thing doesn't faze me, I rarely get a dry hit. One of the big selling points I keep hearing being made is safety for liquids....that makes me laugh. We honestly don't know what the long term affects of vaping are yet. I can appreciate the safety portion, but c'mon. You want safe? Don't vape, don't smoke.

Like I said, I have yet to vape temp controlled, but I know I like a semi warm vape, generally in the 15w to 20w range, and that's what I vape. Does temp control improve the vape for experienced vapers?

If your on ECF more than once a day, your obsessed with the enthusiast side of vaping like I am. We buy the cool toys, like having the latest and greatest, and that's fine... I'm just not sure I understand the obsession with temp control yet. I'm going to find out!

The point being if we do discover down the line that vaping beyond certain temperatures is bad news bears, temp control can help ensure you don't pass that level.

 

[Shigura]

I've read good and bad, the bad being stories of the learning curve I suppose. I can respect the concept, don't get me wrong. I also just ordered a bunch of temp control stuff, chips, mods, wire....I'm getting on board.

The dry hit thing doesn't faze me, I rarely get a dry hit. One of the big selling points I keep hearing being made is safety for liquids....that makes me laugh. We honestly don't know what the long term affects of vaping are yet. I can appreciate the safety portion, but c'mon. You want safe? Don't vape, don't smoke.

Like I said, I have yet to vape temp controlled, but I know I like a semi warm vape, generally in the 15w to 20w range, and that's what I vape. Does temp control improve the vape for experienced vapers?

If your on ECF more than once a day, your obsessed with the enthusiast side of vaping like I am. We buy the cool toys, like having the latest and greatest, and that's fine... I'm just not sure I understand the obsession with temp control yet. I'm going to find out!

Well for starters I think the temp control is for us vapers who don't care for a warm and hot vape for sure. All the wattage means as stated above is how fast your ni200 or Ti coil reaches to hit your set temp limit. So having tons of power to your coil like with kanthal is mostly pointless albeit useless.

So with that said the eliquid is heated up just enough to produce your vapor without burning your wick as fast. That being said my wicks virtually never get dry at all but I will say I notice my coils gunk up fairly fast compared to straight pure power to the coils with kanthal. I love this new temp control feature as it feels I get more flavor out of my vape or its just placebo lol.

I own right now one authentic dna 40 and one cloned and I enjoy it quite much and havent used kanthal in attys since with exception to my atlantis tank. Heck I have a VS rDNA40 on the way and a Mini Vaporflask still waiting on preorder.

 

[retird]

I have yet to find an explanation as to how it is a benefit for low power vapers who never get dry or burnt hits. For those pushing high power and low ohms who aren't experienced enough to avoid burnt or dry hits, it may be great, when the technology is perfected...

Low power vapers get burnt hit and dry hits. Let a carto or tank run out of juice or set your wattage incorrectly for the ohm rated atty you have and see for yourself. TC technology is for APV (Advanced Personal Vaporizer) users.

 

[Stinkytofus]

This is a question I have kept asking myself. How is temp control different from vaping at lower wattage?

So if I vape at 15w or 20w... And if I use temp control at 450f... How is that different from vaping at say 10w or 13.5w? Or whatever........

I've seen the videos. Read so many posts and articles my head is spinning. It seems like if you set a temp and wattage, the coil heats up to approximately the desired temp, and cuts power if it needs to in order to maintain temp. According to the videos I've watched the actual coil temp varies greatly from the setting depending on any number of variables, build, atty, connection, etc.

Isn't vaping at a lower wattage kind of along the same lines?

The no dry hit thing, I mean I think the majority of experienced vapers can successfully build their atty to wick according to their vaping style... Are you really getting consistent dry hits to the point of needing "temp control"? If I get dry hit after dry hit, I adjust the wicking to wick better....

I'm trying to understand if temp control improves the vape beyond a standard wattage/voltage setup or is it a fad and or gimmick...? I actually kind of see it more as a selling point for new vapers than appealing to experienced vapers...? (though I just got thru ordering a bunch of dna4os lol)

(I hope that made sense reading it, it made sense in my head as I typed it on this tiny mobile phone keyboard)

Benefits
1. No more dry hits
2. Cooler vapes at higher wattages, the ability to manually choose how much heat u want is not only beneficial for the juice ur vaping but ur health as well, less heat = better, u dont know what chemicals u cooking at high temps

 

[Hdivr]

I just started with TC with nickel......and I got to say that I like it better than kanthal. Especially for lung hits. I can push my button on my new rDna 40 with my lemo and I can just drag away. Not overly warm, no burnt hits. Heck I can just hold down the fire button and take 3 deep drags without ever letting off the fire button. No worries of burning the cotton or the atomizer getting too hot to vape. And the first drag is the same as the last one.

420 degrees at around 30 watts..............

 

[Completely Average]

This is a question I have kept asking myself. How is temp control different from vaping at lower wattage?

So if I vape at 15w or 20w... And if I use temp control at 450f... How is that different from vaping at say 10w or 13.5w? Or whatever........

I've seen the videos. Read so many posts and articles my head is spinning. It seems like if you set a temp and wattage, the coil heats up to approximately the desired temp, and cuts power if it needs to in order to maintain temp. According to the videos I've watched the actual coil temp varies greatly from the setting depending on any number of variables, build, atty, connection, etc.

Isn't vaping at a lower wattage kind of along the same lines?

The no dry hit thing, I mean I think the majority of experienced vapers can successfully build their atty to wick according to their vaping style... Are you really getting consistent dry hits to the point of needing "temp control"? If I get dry hit after dry hit, I adjust the wicking to wick better....

I'm trying to understand if temp control improves the vape beyond a standard wattage/voltage setup or is it a fad and or gimmick...? I actually kind of see it more as a selling point for new vapers than appealing to experienced vapers...? (though I just got thru ordering a bunch of dna4os lol)

(I hope that made sense reading it, it made sense in my head as I typed it on this tiny mobile phone keyboard)

The easiest way to demonstrate the difference is with a thick wire.

If you try to run a thick wire at low wattage it will never heat up enough to produce vapor. If it does, it may take 3-4 seconds and several puffs before it does start producing vapor.

However, on a temperature control mod it can heat up almost instantly and then maintain the heat and vapor production without overheating, burning the juice, burning the wick, or giving a dry hit.