Agreed
@Summer Gray
I remember seeing that generation of gear start popping up around 8yrs or so ago where I live, tried the later generation cig-alikes with cartridges and cartomizers awhile, didn't do much for me, kept me from smoking at home by using them, out and about or at work, wasn't until the Ovale/Joyetech Ego and Vision CE4 that turned it around for me with my addictive personality and OCD. A lot has changed in the last 3yrs in technology so much, if a person can't make a change to vaping with what is available now and continuing to be innovated, just being to stubborn is the culprit then.