How long should these batteries stay good for?

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Okay, so I'm relatively new to the whole ecig thing, I was an analog smoker for seven years, and I realized that vaping can be cheaper, healthier, and still enjoyable, so I'm trying to stick to it. My third ecig that I ended up with was the Joye 510 Mega kit, came with 2 atties, 2 batties, charger. I can't be sure of the exact date, but I believe I got it about a month or so ago, and I have been very happy with it. However, one of the batteries died a few weeks ago, and just now the other one died too!!! Both of my atties are still good. Are the batteries supposed to die this quick? Overall I believe I've been losing like a battery a month. Should I just go ahead and get a 5-pack of joye 510 batteries, or am I somehow mistreating my batteries? Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks!
 

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So first thing I would ask if they are automatic batteries or manual button batteries. Then I would ask if you leave them charging the whole day or over night. Finally, I would recommend you save your money on new 510 batteries and pick yourself up some Ego Twist batteries. They are adjustable variable voltage and allows you to find your perfect vape. Pair that up with a stardust and you are golden. I have Provaris, Silver Bullet, Can Mods, had a lavatube and a reo grand. I still use the twist when I feel like I am using my provari too much
 

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So first thing I would ask if they are automatic batteries or manual button batteries. Then I would ask if you leave them charging the whole day or over night. Finally, I would recommend you save your money on new 510 batteries and pick yourself up some Ego Twist batteries. They are adjustable variable voltage and allows you to find your perfect vape. Pair that up with a stardust and you are golden. I have Provaris, Silver Bullet, Can Mods, had a lavatube and a reo grand. I still use the twist when I feel like I am using my provari too much

They're manual batteries (sealed). Also, yes I like to keep it charged overnight. Once I got down to only one battery I just would charge it for an hour or two and then go back to vaping, and plug it in before I went to bed. Does this make a difference for some reason? So do these ego twist batteries work on a joye 510 atty?
 

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Can you provide us a link showing what you purchased? I am aware of the standard Joye 510 kit, and the Joy 510-T tank kit that has XL size batteries. But I have never heard of a Joye 'MEGA' kit.

Also, give us some dirt on what the problem is. When you connect them to the charger what does - or does not - happen? If these batteries have LED's do they flash at all when you connect them to the charger? Does the charger light change from green to red when you plug in with the battery connected? Or does it just stay on green?

For Li-on type batteries putting them on a short charge wouldn't kill the battery. It would just give you shorter run times. It is possible you got a couple of lemons. In general all li-on batteries should last around 300 charge cycles. So even if you were charging them 5 times per day they should have lasted about two months.

All Joye batteries have 510 connectors. That means anything that fit on your Joye Kit would fit another type of Joye battery.
But let's figure out if there is anything to be fixed here first.
 

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Alright so.... I have to tell you that charging your batts all night is a horrible idea and increases alot of risks for failures and accidents. I will post a video where a guy left his ego batts charging and literally blew up. So if youre going to stay with ego style batts/510 style batts, head down to walmart and get yourself a little electrical socket timer. Plug your charger into the timer and set the timer for two and a half hours. That way, when you go to sleep, youre batts will charge in those two hours but you arent over charging them.
 

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http://www.ecigexpress.com/joye-510...h-joye-510-manual-mega-kit-select-color-p-479

There is the exact link I purchased from. The LED does not turn on at all. Not when I push the button, and not when I screw it into the charger.

Ok, moving along.

Ecigexpress is a legit Joyetech distributor. Unfortunately their pix of the kit are somewhat lacking.

Does your charger look like the one pictured here? Joyetech 510 Starter Kits

If it does - the charger end - the connector you screw the battery onto may need a tweak. The center connector may be pushed in and is no longer making contact when you screw on a battery. (It happens...) We'll get into the fix if this is the kind of charger you got with your kit.
 

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http://www.ecigexpress.com/joye-ego...59/joyetech-super-joye-ego-select-color-p-673

Also, I'm thinking about getting this one instead of getting more bats. It looks like some high quality ish.

Ok, that's an original style 510 charger so the problem that may come up with other chargers doesn't apply. Still, check what's going on with the connector anyway.

When you look into the hole you screw the batteries into you see the screw on connector. On this type of charger the center post is spring loaded. Time to poke it with a stick: Using a tooth pick, tip of a pen etc. gently poke the center connector. It should have "give" to it and compress down and spring back. If it's behaving like that then a lack of physical connection - the batteries not making contact - isn't the source of the problem.

I did notice ecigexpress has a 30 day warranty. Are you past the 30 days? Even if you are a bit I would still contact them and see if they offer anything regarding the batteries.
 

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Ohhhh noooo! I just poked it a few times and then screwed in a battery and it started charging! Which means the other one I threw out was probably still good! Darnit..

Yeah, it most likely was... Sorry to hear you tossed it before checking in.

I haven't heard of the center connector on this type of charger getting "stuck" like that before but something was causing it to catch and not fully spring back the way it should have. Poking it was all it took to release it and remove whatever friction was causing the problem.

Well, I think I'm still gonna get the ego. It just looks so big and powerful. :D

That's a nice kit. I use the attys that come with that kit and they are huge. The associated carts used with them can hold up to 2.5 ml's. You can vape for hours before needing to refill again. Depending on how much you vape a battery like that will give you 9 to 12 hours run time on a charge.

And you can use the attys that came with your original kit on these batteries too. Joye uses a standard 510 connector on all but one kit they sell.

NOTE: Do not use the eGo charger with your remaining cigarette style battery. Joye makes 2 different capacity chargers. The type you have for low capacity batteries, and the eGo charger. The eGo charger puts out more current than the cigarette batteries are designed to handle. The extra current would cause the internal protection in your cig style battery to shut down, permanently disabling the battery.

This isn't "let's make a noob paranoid about batteries" class. Without getting into all the technical muck about battery size, capacity in mA's etc. it's what JoyeTech produces. Low capacity batteries can only be used with your original charger. Higher capacity batteries come with a higher output charger. If they didn't it would take 12 hours or more to charge the batteries in the kit you are looking at.

Also, you cannot really overcharge these batteries. If batteries exploding all over the place were the rule no one would be using e-cigs. A defective charger or a defective battery can cause an overcharging problem that may explode a battery. But in the real world, a working charger shuts down the charging current - that whole thing about the LED changing from red to green - when the battery is fully charged. You may have noticed on occasion that while charging the LED blips green for a split second. That's the indicator the charger is checking the battery voltage. A lot of battery explosion cases are caused by people doing stoopid things. Combinations of operator error, "not used for intended purpose", and... you ever see that show Jackass?
 

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Although it didn't seem to be the problem here for you, one thing to keep an eye out for if having charging trouble is just making sure your connections are clean. A buddy who uses egos now lent me his 510 PCC to use on my batteries, and I couldn't get it to work at first. If there's any liquid residue that builds up on either end of your connection being the charger or the battery, it may prevent you getting a proper connection as well. A quick swab with a q-tip will have it clean again.
 
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