From Jessica's thread.... worth a look:
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/how-many-americans-vape-cdc-data-show_7.htm
edit: I'm getting an error on the above link - if you are try this:
Tobacco Truth
... and go to the July 7th 2016 article :- )
While Rodu states: "The fact that there were 2.5 million former smokers using e-cigarettes in 2015 does not prove that vaping is driving the steep decline in smoking. Similarly, the data fails to prove the claim that vaping is “renormalizing” smoking. "
Rodu does give clues of what may be driving the steep decline in smoking:
"The largest single-year decline in adult smoking was seen in the youngest age group, and it follows the substantial recent decline in teen smoking reported in this blog (here) but ignored by the CDC and other federal agencies. The 13% smoking rate among 18- to 24-year-olds in 2015 represents a decline of almost half from 24.4% in 2005. This will eventually translate into significant public health gains, as lower smoking rates among young adults today will result in lower smoking-attributable disease and death rates in the future."
He cites this - a year ago - as contributing evidence:
One can see the increase in ecig use (light blue tops) vs. the decline in the cigarette use (dark blue bottoms). Note 2014 figures vs. 2013, and the continuing trend, in the 2015 figures above in the other chart - even though the bottom one is 'students' and the one above is all smoking/vaping. Again, he doesn't say "proof" but the figures speak for themselves.
This is the type of data vendors/manufacturers could use in their PMTAs (it's the governments own data :- ) and what the lawyers may cite in the lawsuits.
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/how-many-americans-vape-cdc-data-show_7.htm
edit: I'm getting an error on the above link - if you are try this:
Tobacco Truth
... and go to the July 7th 2016 article :- )
While Rodu states: "The fact that there were 2.5 million former smokers using e-cigarettes in 2015 does not prove that vaping is driving the steep decline in smoking. Similarly, the data fails to prove the claim that vaping is “renormalizing” smoking. "
Rodu does give clues of what may be driving the steep decline in smoking:
"The largest single-year decline in adult smoking was seen in the youngest age group, and it follows the substantial recent decline in teen smoking reported in this blog (here) but ignored by the CDC and other federal agencies. The 13% smoking rate among 18- to 24-year-olds in 2015 represents a decline of almost half from 24.4% in 2005. This will eventually translate into significant public health gains, as lower smoking rates among young adults today will result in lower smoking-attributable disease and death rates in the future."
He cites this - a year ago - as contributing evidence:
One can see the increase in ecig use (light blue tops) vs. the decline in the cigarette use (dark blue bottoms). Note 2014 figures vs. 2013, and the continuing trend, in the 2015 figures above in the other chart - even though the bottom one is 'students' and the one above is all smoking/vaping. Again, he doesn't say "proof" but the figures speak for themselves.
This is the type of data vendors/manufacturers could use in their PMTAs (it's the governments own data :- ) and what the lawyers may cite in the lawsuits.
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