I love subohming, could never get into 1ohm coils+ feels like I'm smoking a stanky. I'm still learning though like I vape 0.5 usually at maybe 25watts and I get a lot of splashing or I suck up juice so I'm now experimenting with higher wattages currently vaping at around 30-37watts still get flavor but if I go to around 37watts I find my juices lack flavor but get more vapor which imo is weird and if I'm using a tank like my aspire triton I actually am getting less vapor the higher I go I think the wicking in the premade coils are not as great as RDA's. rda I can go higher but I don't enjoy very warm vapor.
How many watts are you at when vaping?
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I vape at my desk while working. Luckily they haven't changed the laws yet in San Bernadino County like LA.
The new breed of Subtanks literally gulp juice. With my Crown, with .25ohm Dual Coil, at 45 to 55 Watts, I have to be careful when in public to hold the vape in my lungs to dissipate the massive clouds.
It takes a lot of liquid to generate these insane clouds.
I'm at around 15ml a day but if I didn't watch myself could easily do 30ml. I've cut my nicotine way down to around 3mg.
Try a 70pg/30vg blend at 9.5 watts with a 1.6 ohm coil in a Nautilus tank. Just beats the heckydern out of any sub ohm I have tried for flavor, & enough vapor to satisfy.......Won't be impressive just very satisfying.
5.3 watts on my many clearos, 13.5 on dripper, 4-5 ml/day
On the RDA I do a sort of hybrid initial MTL into a slow lung hit... It seems I'm setting the power for my chosen airflow, changing the coil affects the quality not really the power, if anything too big a coil produces too much heat and I have to turn it even lower.
You sound like an eGo or cigalike user asking how in the world can someone vape at 60 watts? In either case the answer is the device/build and usage must match the power. And many find that some of the low power stuff makes the best flavor. You certainly can savor it slower. Sometimes I would like a little more vapor, but some wonderful juices seem so device specific that the choice is experience their majesty at their own pace or not at all.
On the RDA I do a sort of hybrid initial MTL into a slow lung hit... It seems I'm setting the power for my chosen airflow, changing the coil affects the quality not really the power, if anything too big a coil produces too much heat and I have to turn it even lower.
You sound like an eGo or cigalike user asking how in the world can someone vape at 60 watts? In either case the answer is the device/build and usage must match the power. And many find that some of the low power stuff makes the best flavor. You certainly can savor it slower. Sometimes I would like a little more vapor, but some wonderful juices seem so device specific that the choice is experience their majesty at their own pace or not at all.
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I stick to volts, 4.2-5V, less adjustments when going from a subΩ tank/rda to a higher Ω tank
I'm going between 24 or so and 36, depending on which device, probably in the forties with my drippers on mech mods. I am seriously considering cutting my wattage though, and I would never buy one of these newer tanks designed for super high watts that have a sweet spot up there in the 60 or 80 watt range or even higher. Why in the heck would you want something like that unless you are an e-juice supplier? I think those guys are the ones pushing everyone toward super high wattage devices. People are consuming crazy amounts of juice. People here are talking about consuming 30 to 45 ml a day. That is nuts, a huge waste on money and it just can't be good for you.
I do like using juice with lower levels of nicotine than those super low wattage older devices I used with 24 and even 36 mg per ml juice. Those things were leaky and when you would get some of that in your mouth it would burn forever. The vapor production wasn't enough to be satisfying and the burn from leaking juice was so bad I didn't make it long on those, but I can lick 6 mg juice off my finger no problem and at around 30 watts I'm getting more vapor than I care to have and it's delivering plenty of nicotine for this guy who up until a few weeks ago was smoking a pack and a half a day for decades. Instead of cutting my nicotine levels though I would like to increase them some. I don't like the crappy store brand juice they sell for 95 cents for 10 ml at my vape shop. I prefer at least the semi-premium stuff. I'd rather not vape 10 or 15 ml of the expensive stuff a day and spend what I was spending on cigarettes plus what I'm spending on vaping paraphernalia, and I darned sure don't want to be vaping 30 or 45 ml of 1.5 mg juice to get roughly the same nicotine delivery. That's a waste of money and annoying as can be to all those people around you who don't vape and don't want your clouds blowing their way. Even at 25 or 30 watts my secretary is in the next room coughing away so I have to go outside just like I did when I was smoking a pack and a half a day in the not so distant past. I'm sure it's all in her head, but most people do not vape and there are a lot of people who don't want to be subjected to your vapor clouds for whatever reason.
It seems like all the new atomizers are super sub ohm devices designed to be used at super high wattages. This is not good. I would like to see great new devices that do a great job at lower wattages, energy efficient products that make your 18650 battery last all day, provide fantastic tasting vapor and don't just guzzle the juice. That's not the way the industry is going right now though, but there is plenty of "obsolete" stuff you can pick up for very little money that can provide you a great lower wattage vaping experience.
I do like using juice with lower levels of nicotine than those super low wattage older devices I used with 24 and even 36 mg per ml juice. Those things were leaky and when you would get some of that in your mouth it would burn forever. The vapor production wasn't enough to be satisfying and the burn from leaking juice was so bad I didn't make it long on those, but I can lick 6 mg juice off my finger no problem and at around 30 watts I'm getting more vapor than I care to have and it's delivering plenty of nicotine for this guy who up until a few weeks ago was smoking a pack and a half a day for decades. Instead of cutting my nicotine levels though I would like to increase them some. I don't like the crappy store brand juice they sell for 95 cents for 10 ml at my vape shop. I prefer at least the semi-premium stuff. I'd rather not vape 10 or 15 ml of the expensive stuff a day and spend what I was spending on cigarettes plus what I'm spending on vaping paraphernalia, and I darned sure don't want to be vaping 30 or 45 ml of 1.5 mg juice to get roughly the same nicotine delivery. That's a waste of money and annoying as can be to all those people around you who don't vape and don't want your clouds blowing their way. Even at 25 or 30 watts my secretary is in the next room coughing away so I have to go outside just like I did when I was smoking a pack and a half a day in the not so distant past. I'm sure it's all in her head, but most people do not vape and there are a lot of people who don't want to be subjected to your vapor clouds for whatever reason.
It seems like all the new atomizers are super sub ohm devices designed to be used at super high wattages. This is not good. I would like to see great new devices that do a great job at lower wattages, energy efficient products that make your 18650 battery last all day, provide fantastic tasting vapor and don't just guzzle the juice. That's not the way the industry is going right now though, but there is plenty of "obsolete" stuff you can pick up for very little money that can provide you a great lower wattage vaping experience.
You're welcome. Can't be any worse than 30+ roll your own cigarettes with pipe tobacco every day like I was doing. I feel sooooo much better, I can breathe better, and I can stay at the gym for over an hour weight lifting without any sort of wheezing. I never used to be able to.make it 15 minutes before gasping for air.
This is so new though. The first ecig came out in China in 2004 and it took a few years for them to gain any sort of popularity. They were all very low wattage devices until just recently. We really don't know what the long term effects of these things will be, and it may very well be that super high wattage setups are much worse for people heating these juices up more with all the various chemicals in them that may be perfectly safe as food additives but not necessarily when heated to the point of vaporization and inhaled in large quantities.
For me, these are nicotine delivery devices. I've done the super low wattage devices with juice at 36 and 24 mg/ml nicotine and did not like that. You get barely any vapor and the nicotine flavor is overpowering and when you get juice that strong in your mouth it hurts and leaves a horrible taste for a long time. Those old ego batteries and high ohm tanks were only using something like 5.5 watts though and the more you increase your watts the lower the percentage of nicotine you need in your juice to take in the dose that it going to satisfy your cravings. Good flavor and a satisfying amount of vapor can be had at much lower than 60, 80 or more watts, but different tanks with different atomizer heads do all have their sweet spots and the higher the watts a particular setup can take, the more watts you need to push through it to get to that sweet spot. I've noticed that even with the newer Kangor Subtank vertical OCC heads compared to the horizontal coils in the older ones. I have both. You can push more watts through the vertical coils without getting burnt hits, but you need to push more watts through them to get the flavor you got from less watts using the older coils. The industry push is for higher and higher wattage mods along with atomizers that can take higher watts, which just means people will be consuming more and more juice, which is probably only a good thing for those selling the juice (and batteries and battery chargers). It's probably not healthy for those consuming it. It makes vaping a much more expensive habit, buying all that extra juice you will go through pushing extreme watts and the gear you need to do that. It makes vaping more annoying for those who don't vape, which is only going to help get anti-vaping legislation passed. I wouldn't be so sure that inhaling massive quantities of vaporized e-juice is so harmless, and I just can't see how this trend of increasing wattage is good for anyone except those selling juice.
Note, I'm saying all this as I hit on my Derringer RDA with dual Claptons at .3 OHM combined and a fresh 18650 battery in my hybrid SMPL mod clone. I'm not exactly going low wattage here. I'm just wondering if this is all a good idea as I think about how "vapey" the room is getting and how my eyes are burning and I'm inhaling so much of this stuff and just burning through the expensive juice. I'm not doing 30 ml a day, thank God. But I sure am going through an awful lot more juice than I was going through before I got all this sub ohm gear and I'm seriously considering decreasing the wattage I'm pushing and increasing the nic level of my juice to compensate so I will use less juice. I have rebuildable tanks and drippers and a bunch of "disposable" atomizer heads I can rebuild at higher ohms for my unregulated devices and I can just turn my box mod down a little, make higher nic juice last a lot longer than this 6 mg stuff I'm using now and get a whole lot better battery life.
I vape at 36 watts as that's all my defender goes upto on a 0.5 ohm coil . works really well plenty of vapor , using an arctic tank. I use tobacco flavoured juice at 16 mg diluted 50 50 with glycerin which brings it down fo 8 mg. the reason i mix the liquid this way if i use the juice straight it floods the arctic with the glycerin it works perfectly.
vape on and live long.
vape on and live long.
6.5W on a kayfun lite v2 clone with a 1.7 ohm coil, and 8w on a nautilus mini with 1.6 ohm vertical cotton stock coil, 18 to 24 mg Nic, 3 ml a day total juice. Mouth to lung style of vaping. Man up you 3 mg cloud chuckers.
kanger sub mini and nano, 1.5 and 1.2 coils, 13 and 17W more then enough, I'm in it for the taste/flavour, not cloud chasing.
Maybe when they come up with better coils, non leaking tanks and a RY4 better then Dekang, hehe! then I will save myself all the hassle, leaks, cloil-sparks, preassure-waves from sub-ohming.
Maybe when they come up with better coils, non leaking tanks and a RY4 better then Dekang, hehe! then I will save myself all the hassle, leaks, cloil-sparks, preassure-waves
from sub-ohming.
I alternate between 2 protank minis,a subtank mini (ver.1) and a kayfun lite atop of a ipv mini.I vape all of these @ 2.1 to 2.2 ohms powered to 5.4 to 5.6 watts.Long,slow mouth to lung hits,gives plenty enough cloud for me.I go through about 3 to 5 ml.of 8mg.juice per day.
It should be obvious by now that wattage is device specific as well as individual specific.
If I was to try the wattage that my Mutation requires with my A7 all I would be able to taste would be fried cotton.
While the Mutation works great at ~80 watts, the A7 only need ~8.
The individual decides which way the want to vape. They both work ... and work well.
If I was to try the wattage that my Mutation requires with my A7 all I would be able to taste would be fried cotton.
While the Mutation works great at ~80 watts, the A7 only need ~8.
The individual decides which way the want to vape. They both work ... and work well.
I DIY my own 100% VG juice. I use predominantly a simple organic peppermint as my top note and sometimes mix in less then 10% of another organic flavoring.
I couldn't imagine the cost of vaping if I were buying the pre-made juices. I control what's in my juice too and avoid artificial flavors of any type. So maybe I'll dodge a bullet.
Plenty of devices for under $50.00 that are in the 50-60 Watt arena. There are some under $80.00 that will do over 150 Watts like the IPV3.
I have a Cloupor Gt 80 bought for around $50.00 that goes up to 80 Watts. It uses 2 batteries which is a must unless your one battery device has a USB Pass through or you like changing batteries often.
I go over 24 hours on a charge Using my Crown Tank at around 40-50 Watts [.25 OHM Dual SS coil]
Actually the vapor production is too much and I have a smaller setup on the way for stealth vaping.
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