how much difference will a Vamo make?

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Natey

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The Vamo listed on fasttech that is stainless steel with 2 18650 batteries For $53 is the one I'm looking at getting. I'm confused about the batteries. can I only use one 18350 in short mode or can I use One 18650 in short Mode? do I need to buy the 18350's? and will there be a learning curve from the ego? I feel so uneducated, yet so grateful that I have this forum to ask. I'm pretty much convinced now that the Vamo is the way I'm going to go... and you guys rock with your quick responses...Thanks So Much.

I dont know why everyone goes to fasttech for the Vamo when your the in the USA, not knocking on anyone, and not pushing on anything but right here in the USA i got my SS Vamo from VaporAlley for $54.99 they are out of Maryland USA shipped same day, and got it 2 days later, It is All SS even the bottom cap, perfect and new with all the updated stuff like the spring and red isolator for the battery...... And It Even Accepts Kanger T3's Heres the link Stainless Steel Vamo Just saying, same stuff, and never had a problem with them, they have Awesome costumer service and if you call them they even answer the phone... Im not promoting this site, but they pretty much get all my business now... Like i said I'm not knocking on any other company, but if your in the USA why would you wait 2-3 weeks for your stuff to get to you from China.... Correct me if im wrong we are all human.......... And don't go taking this the wrong way, this isn't a bash on anyone... Vape on my friends.... :vapor:
 
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I dont know why everyone goes to fasttech for the Vamo when your the in the USA, not knocking on anyone, and not pushing on anything but right here in the USA i got my SS Vamo from VaporAlley for $54.99 they are out of Maryland USA shipped same day, and got it 2 days later, It is All SS even the bottom cap, perfect and new with all the updated stuff like the spring and red isolator for the battery...... And It Even Accepts Kanger T3's Heres the link Stainless Steel Vamo Just saying, same stuff, and never had a problem with them, they have Awesome costumer service and if you call them they even answer the phone... Im not promoting this site, but they pretty much get all my business now... Like i said I'm not knocking on any other company, but if your in the USA why would you wait 2-3 weeks for your stuff to get to you from China.... Correct me if im wrong we are all human.......... And don't go taking this the wrong way, this isn't a bash on anyone... Vape on my friends.... :vapor:

Fasttech's deal is $53.33 for SS vamo V2, a nitecore I2 charger and 2 panasonic 18650 batteries. So for a little less than the price of the "body only" deal you linked, the Fasttech deal gets you a kit that actually comes with a quality charger and batteries. Most kits give you junk chargers and batteries.

Also not bashing. I get some people chose not to wait for their stuff. I get my Fasttech orders in 8 to 10 days. To me, its WELL worth the wait. :toast:
 

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Just my admittedly opinionated advice for new vamo owners (take with however many grains of salt you want)

The ego/510 connector on the vamo is brass which is a soft metal so it isn't surprising that we hear quite a few people on ECF that have stripped or bent the connector on their vamo. Here is what I did the very day I got mine to protect the connector from damage.

I attached an adapter to the vamo connector and just leave it there. Then when I attach juice devices I am screwing things into the adapter over and over and NOT into the touchy vamo connector. It just protects that connector a bit imho.

SO which adapter to use (realize there are many sources these links are examples).

If all of your juice delivery devices are 510 threaded get Tank Airflow Controller
this adapter does a great job on 3 fronts. It protects the vamo connector. It closes the gap between the connector and the device making things look more polished. It CAN be used to restrict airflow to things like the protank tightening up the draw.

If you use a mix of 510 threaded and ego threaded devices then 510 Battery to eGo Atomizer Adapter is a better choice as it leaves you with the ability to use both sorts of devices.
 

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I want one bad. Trying to talk my girl into "allowing" me to order one after i just ordered us two new twists hasn't been easy lol.

Remember: "It is Always better to Ask for Forgiveness than to Beg for Permission."

This is written on the Back of Your Man-Card.

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Fasttech's deal is $53.33 for SS vamo V2, a nitecore I2 charger and 2 panasonic 18650 batteries. So for a little less than the price of the "body only" deal you linked, the Fasttech deal gets you a kit that actually comes with a quality charger and batteries. Most kits give you junk chargers and batteries.

Also not bashing. I get some people chose not to wait for their stuff. I get my Fasttech orders in 8 to 10 days. To me, its WELL worth the wait. :toast:

Hey thats cool, to each their own, i know its all made by the same people and comes from the same place, but IMO i like to support the USA suppliers, Nothing wrong with what others do, like i said I'm not bashing them, and i don't like to wait lol, so for me 8 days would be like and eternity.. Its all good.. Cheers....
 
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Can someone please explain the difference between the N01 and N02 setting options and how they would be used to effect vaping? Also does the Vamo ship set to N01 or N02?

"When activating an atomizers attached to your device, voltage is sent to the atomizers. Higher currents than set are pulsed to the device during this process. The duration of these pulses, and the amount of rest in-between, are how the unit matches the desired setting. There are two ways of reaching the setting. VAVG NO1, is the average time of pulsing and rest. VRMS NO2 is a calculation which is understood to be a more accurate representation of how a continual voltage would work with an Electronic Cigarette. VAVG may also damage your atomizer. While VRMS is the recommended setting, VAVG is the default. Please use caution when using the VAVG setting."

In other words, NO2 is safer and more accurate, NO1 can burn up your Atty..........

Heres the link to the manual for the Vamo V2.... http://vaporalley.3dcartstores.com/assets/images/Mods/VamoInstruction.pdf
 
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Can someone please explain the difference between the N01 and N02 setting options and how they would be used to effect vaping? Also does the Vamo ship set to N01 or N02?

I've read Very Technical Threads about N01 vs N02.

I understand the Math involved but maybe not some of the Theory. To me, N02 gives me a Better Hit so that is what I use.

Sorry if this isn't very Technical.
 

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I've read Very Technical Threads about N01 vs N02.

I understand the Math involved but maybe not some of the Theory. To me, N02 gives me a Better Hit so that is what I use.

Sorry if this isn't very Technical.

Doesn't have to be technical, but your right, NO2 gives you a better hit because its has a more consistent Pulse Rate.. And most Vamo's ship in NO1 mode, best to check to make sure your in NO2 mode so you don't burn up anything nice.....
 

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"When activating an atomizers attached to your device, voltage is sent to the atomizers. Higher currents than set are pulsed to the device during this process. The duration of these pulses, and the amount of rest in-between, are how the unit matches the desired setting. There are two ways of reaching the setting. VAVG NO1, is the average time of pulsing and rest. VRMS NO2 is a calculation which is understood to be a more accurate representation of how a continual voltage would work with an Electronic Cigarette. VAVG may also damage your atomizer. While VRMS is the recommended setting, VAVG is the default. Please use caution when using the VAVG setting."

In other words, NO2 is safer and more accurate, NO1 can burn up your Atty..........

Heres the link to the manual for the Vamo V2.... http://vaporalley.3dcartstores.com/assets/images/Mods/VamoInstruction.pdf
Thanks Natey much appreciated :toast:
 

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Can someone please explain the difference between the N01 and N02 setting options and how they would be used to effect vaping? Also does the Vamo ship set to N01 or N02?

No 1 is an average. In real terms - it fires higher than the setting on the display. So, for example, you have a 2.6 ohm attachment (cartomizer or clearo), and set the Vamo for 7 watts. Instead of firing at 7 watts it fires at 9.7 watts - quite a difference. I didn't just make up those numbers - they are test numbers from tests done on Zmax's - which have the same chip as the Vamo. Some vapers like a harder hitting setting and use this - not that many tho.

In No 2 mode, RMS, what you set on the display is what the Vamo will fire at.
So again, lets say you have a 2.6 ohm attachment and set the Vamo for 7 watts. In no 2 mode it fires at 7 watts. So its more accurate, and you don't get any unpleasant surprises from it firing higher than you wanted.

I can't remember what the setting is when it ships. Its very easy to change it tho. Just hold down one of the small buttons for about ten seconds until you see either NO1 or NO2 on the display. Whichever one you see is the one its on. So if you see NO1 hold one of the small buttons down until you see NO2. Then leave it there.
 
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Doesn't have to be technical, but your right, NO2 gives you a better hit because its has a more consistent Pulse Rate.. And most Vamo's ship in NO1 mode, best to check to make sure your in NO2 mode so you don't burn up anything nice.....

If a person has done a little Math, they know that there are Many Ways to obtain an "Average". And that Equivalent Numerical Values do not necessarily represent Equivalent Events in the Real World.

For me, not having access to any Test Equipment, I did some Backyard Physics using a Vamo and a New, Empty CE2 Clearomize.

I set the Vamo at 3.9 volts in N01 mode and Smashed the Power Button while looking at the Atomizer Coil inside the CE2. Both Ends of the coil wire Instantly Jumped up to an Angry Surface of the Sun Orange while the Middle Section of the Coil stayed Normal Looking.

Then I set the Vamo to N02 Mode and did the Same Thing. This time the Entire Coil appeared to Heat Up Evenly and More Slowly to a Mellower Orange. This was All I needed to see to know why N02 Mode worked Better for me than N01 Mode.

If both Modes provided Average Power (becoming Average Heat) to the Coil but N01 caused the Ends of Coil to be Hotter than the Middle of the Coil, this Explained why I was getting Burnt Hits in N01 Mode. Because if at Any Point Alone the Coil, or at Any Time, the coil Exceeded a Temperature Threshold it Burns my e-Liquid.

I know this Isn't a Definitive Experiment. Just something I observed on a Day I had some Free Time. But the Real World Observation did seem to reflect what the Math Predicted with regards to Average Power vs Instantaneous Power when Both Voltage and Time are considered.

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If you some more Quantitative Results of Vamo output, here is a Thread where someone Did use a Scope.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/420191-single-vs-stacked-pwm-scope-results.html
 
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