How much more forward should I pay it!?

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DancingHeretik

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I'd pull a couple of vape business cards out of my wallet (you get them with just about every order from just about every vendor), hand her one, and get on with my day.

You do know ECF has free cards, right? You just have to pay the postage.
 

Kimmothy

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I actually got asked for juice last night at work. But it didn't bother me: coworker is also a friend, and we've covered each-other on lunch more than once

If this lady was a coworker friend, I'd feel the same way...I just thought it's weird to ask a stranger for things. But it's cool - the gravy train stops now so I have stuff to give to people I actually know.
 

Kimmothy

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That's awful... I can't imagine going up to someone that I've never talked to before and asking them to do that. And then to act like it wasn't good enough? That is just craziness. The sense of entitlement some people have is insane.

I have a co-worker that is interested in starting to vape, but all he asks me about is where to get stuff. I can't imagine him ever asking me to give him anything. But since I know him, I have no rpoblem letting him trying liquid that neither my husband nor I like to see if he's interested in it.

Exactly! And off topic, but I love your dog!
 

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I'm much more inclined these days to pass on things to people who already vape. I sent my starter kit egos, a ton of clearos, bottles of juice and a UK charger to a friend. I spent a lot of money, including the shipping across the pond. She tried it for 2 days. For those two days she did cut down on cigs by half, and yet tossed it all back in a box and gave up. At one point she hinted she would like some better clearos, but I feel its up to her to buy them.

I suspect when people spend their own money they are more likely to give it a serious try.

I am helping another friend get started. However, if she gives it up, I'm going to ask that the mods be returned to me. I'm having her buy her tanks.
 

Racehorse

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I gave an acquaintance a $75 starter ego kit when I first started vaping, because I had 2. She was supposed to pay me and that was 2.5 years ago. I still see her around and she brought it up, that she still "owes me" for the kit..........but never offers to pay :lol:

I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out people with entitlement issues.
 

Bikenstein

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I gave an acquaintance a $75 starter ego kit when I first started vaping, because I had 2. She was supposed to pay me and that was 2.5 years ago. I still see her around and she brought it up, that she still "owes me" for the kit..........but never offers to pay :lol:

I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out people with entitlement issues.

She just has memory issues. She let you know that she hasn't forgotten the debt, just that she only remembered when she saw you. Unfortunately she didn't have the money right then. She will pay you when she has the money and remembers at the same time. But don't forget that time itself eventually pays for debts of this sort. :)
 

Hitmetwice

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I've ordered 2 ego one kits in the last couple weeks for newbs, one paid up front including my gas money to pick it up, I don't mind giving her some of my time to get her dialed in with it when we get together, I enjoy it even though all newbs are pretty daft and it can be frustrating. But if I can help another 40 year smoker get off the stinkies I will!

The second was a birthday gift for my son who was smoking flavoured cigars for the last 2 years, he showed interest so he's been set up, he's coming by tomorrow so I can craft up some juice for him...
to his specs.....It's all good.
 

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You can learn a lot about someone by giving them something (time, money, gifts, knowledge, etc.). What do they do with it? How do they act, react, respond etc.? Do they give anything in return (even a thank you)?

I give because I enjoy giving. It makes ME feel good. I've learned that giving to some people is like planting a seed. I get much more back than what I give. Others are like a black hole. Not only do you get nothing back, they will suck the life out of you if you let them. As soon as I realize that someone is a black hole (it sometimes takes a while), I avoid them like the plaque. Up to and including family members.
 

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I give away my stuff to ppl just starting out to see if they like vaping. I figure if just one stops smoking cigs it is worth it. I had a ton of iclear 16 tanks that were just sitting around. A few e-pens. I give my kids my old kanger and aspire stuff as well as my mvps. I make juice for my family and a few friends. If someone at work wants me to make them up juice the first bottle is free to see if they like it. Then I tell them just give me a few bucks to cover the cost. They know what a B&M would charge so they know they are coming out way ahead. I lost 2 brothers to cancer the last couple of years so giving stuff away for the most part doesn't bother me.
 

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I don't think the OP is bothered by giving stuff away, as she said she is always excited to pass old gear along. It's just the fact of being taken advantage of as the lady expected her to "expand" on her gift. Some people are unaware that they are doing any wrong in expecting more, while others are just moochers who think they have found a fool. They feel if you are stupid enough to give them something they deserve all they can get because of their "superior intelligence". Others are just cheap bums :) We have all kinds in our family
 

Eliterep

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That is crazy that people can be so entitled. I lent my buddy a standard ego battery and a couple of tanks when he said he wanted to quit smoking for financial reasons. He showed no gratitude and still has not stopped smoking or even cut back, but it still made me feel good to let him have a go at getting off the stinkies. It is all in how you look at it I guess..
 

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I started really getting into vaping all because a person that works at the video game store where I hang out gave me a Ego-twist set up (Without me even asking, just as a Christmas gift! :)). I was, and am still eternally grateful. That was over a year ago, since then I have moved onto mech mods and RDA's and I'm totally happy with where I am at. Since then I have had a few opportunity's to pay it forward in the same way that guy did for me and just like you are doing.

Luckily (In regards to vape stuff) I haven't encountered what you are dealing with. But sadly with other items/things I have ran into the same problem. I have noticed that not everyone is like this, it just seems that some people are more inclined to "take advantage" of situations. From my perspective I don't think people that do this are doing it because they are trying to exploit you. However it seems some people are just unaware when they might be crossing a line.

Because of this, try to go easy on this person. I like to (kindly) push people in a "self-dependent" direction. In your case, refer her to some websites or a local shop. This might not work, as it does not always work for me. If that ends up being the case you are better of jut being upfront with this person in a nice way. I have made the mistake of not doing that right away and it has cost me. Also, as I said before, this person is probably not trying to be overbearing so they shouldn't end up being offended if you are up-front with them.

If there's any point I want to make here its this. If you chose not to be upfront with this person and continue providing them with what they need they will keep coming back until you do something about it. Just because you wont pay for everything they need does not make you a bad person. Some people just need a little "heads up" about boundaries.

I would also urge you to not allow this situation to turn you off of "paying it forward". Without people like yourself and that guy at the game shop chances are I would have never gotten into this hobby and would still be smoking.
 

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I had a situation where I helped someone here on the forum that ended up with a loss to me. I don't mind helping someone in need, but my resources to do so has disappeared. A member here had his one and only Reo stolen at a vape shop. He posted his issue and I had my first Reo plus a couple of newer ones so I offered to loan it to him and an RM2 atomizer with it. I quickly shipped it to him and his last post was thanking the community for the thoughtfulness of everyone. Haven't seen him since and a PM from me went unanswered. I guess it's gone. I really like helping when someone needs the help, but hate being taken advantage of. MoonSparkles advice is good. Start leading her towards doing for herself or you might end up really being taken advantage of. Good luck with it!

Sent by REO vapor

We try to see the best in others and I have never seen someone as giving as you are! I remember that thread very well and remember your generosity. I am sure hoping the person you were so helpful to is reading this and is reminded of how to do the right thing. You're a great guy Pwheeler! And congrats on your one year vapeversary today!
 
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