How much water is possible?

[Norrin]

1/3 water, just don't put it in a clearo it will flood. Might work in a dripper, but still don't really see the point.

 

[Javamon]

Well, I'll fess that it didn't go that well.

The Point is - I can't help myself as far as experimenting goes. It's in my dna.
When I cook a meal, I don't think I have ever made something the same way twice. I just Have to tweak.

But, I'm over it as far as the water experiment goes.

I Am learning, though, that I prefer more PG than VG. I am liking a thinner draw, and I like the taste that way.

Today, I ordered an ejuice that is 70 PG / 30 VG. I *think* that might turn out to be the sweet spot for me.

 

[tFOrRESTee]

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Again you are very wrong on most accounts. Water vapor is very visible (chilled for machines, for example). No "big blobs of VG" pulled by vapor, etc.

would you mind explaining why he's wrong and how's the vaping process go, instead of just saying someone is wrong? Sorry, curious mind would like to know. Thank you.

 

[twgbonehead]

Again you are very wrong on most accounts. Water vapor is very visible (chilled for machines, for example). No "big blobs of VG" pulled by vapor, etc.

I don't understand this comment at all. Water vapor is visible, yes. You can make water vapor by putting water in a spray bottle and pushing the plunger. Steam is not visible. What most people call "Steam" is not steam (which is water in gaseous form) it is water which used to be gaseous, but which then re-condensed into liquid water particles. Your visible breath on a cold day is an example, as is the commonly-called "steam" from a teakettle. It is not steam, it's water vapor.

My comments earlier were specifically directed towards the process of vaporizing fluid in the e-cigarettes as we know them. There is a very good reason why PG and VG are the primary liquids used in e-cigarettes. When heated in close contact with a hot coil they create a vapor which is what we know and love. Water does not do the same thing.

I suspect you're just trying to .... around with terminology, and I really don't appreciate that at all.

Vape Water.

Or Pound Salt, if that does a better job of getting you off the cigs.

 

[twgbonehead]

I am sorry, you are extremely wrong at it.
Liquid boils as a single unit, not by its components. It's physics. Thermodynamics, if you will.

Take a red-hot plunger, and shove it into a bucket of ice-water, and tell me that the whole bucket of water acts as a single unit.

Or try to distill moonshine from corn mash, and tell me that what comes out is identical in composition to the liquid that was distilled.

Yes, it's physics. And thermodynamics. Doesn't in the least violate any principles of either, in fact follows them exactly. Otherwise we wouldn't be worrying about the FDA, we'd have the ghost of Richard Feynman coming to kick our butts.

 

[twgbonehead]

Well, I'll fess that it didn't go that well.

The Point is - I can't help myself as far as experimenting goes. It's in my DNA.
When I cook a meal, I don't think I have ever made something the same way twice. I just Have to tweak.

But, I'm over it as far as the water experiment goes.

I Am learning, though, that I prefer more PG than VG. I am liking a thinner draw, and I like the taste that way.

Today, I ordered an ejuice that is 70 PG / 30 VG. I *think* that might turn out to be the sweet spot for me.

Javamon,

Love your attitude! I really am much the same way; have tried adding water, vodka, everclear, extra VG. flavorings, etc. to see what works and what doesn't. It helps a lot to do this in a dripper, where you aren't as concerned about the exact percentages, but just "What does a little more of this do"

Water, for me, was pretty disappointing.
The everclear wasn't so bad. Bit of throat hit, and alcohol and nic are a great pairing.
I really liked extra VG; gave much better lung presence, and sometimes even a little sweetness.
Vodka was a loss in general, the water overpowered the alcohol. A lot like just adding water.

I've never successfully made bread in a bread-maker, because I can never follow a recipe exactly; somehow I have to tweak it. And then add something else or two. Eggs, potato flakes, orange juice, cornmeal, you name it. This doesn't work well for bread, maybe someday I'll figure that out.

Vape on!

 

[jaygee24]

I think I will try 5% distilled water in my next DIY. Will update as soon as it's steeped. Wish me luck

 

[Rat2chat2]

There are some good articles also about adding saline solution to the mix. Here is some of the info I have bookmarked.

Yep, that's the same saline we use (.9% sterile saline; no additives; not for injection) - it's great for rehydrating your eyes, too

We use it in ALL of our juices. Our "base" is 80% VG; 9% distilled water; 9% sterile saline .9%; and 2% PGA (pure grain alcohol). We make 16oz bottles of it and keep it in the fridge (warm it up in hot water when ready to use it). Then we plug it into the calculator as "VG" for our mixes.

You will not be able to taste the salt at all when vaping...but it will help keep your mouth/throat from becoming so incredibly parched. The saline is (truly!) indispensible for bakery flavors & chocolates...and it makes many other flavors 'pop'. Even tho we use only VG and VG nic - we've never had to increase the flavors from any recipe - and we've lessened the percentages on quite a few.

Mix up a small test batch of anything with 5-10% saline and the same without saline. Unless you hit an 'odd flavor', you won't believe how much better the one with saline is!



Hope this helps too.