How *NOT* to steep your e-juice

[BrianCig]

Not a good idea. The heat from a dryer would melt an LDPE or PET bottle, and I doubt you want to put a glass bottle in a tumble dryer for obvious reasons.

Are you sure it would melt the bottles? I have soaked bottles in close to boiling water (let the water cool a few minutes) and never had any problem. Only problem I have had is when soaking bottles with boiling water, then they melt.

Boiling water is 100 C. I don't think dryers get that hot. Another option would be to use the synthetics setting as it isn't as hot and for delicate clothing.

Yes big no to using glass bottles!!

Aaaaannnnd..... I'm not sure lol. I think I gave myself taste overload. Plus they were new flavors so not all of them I'm wild about. I actually think some of them tasted a bit fuller? stronger? than the last time I sampled.... others, no discernable difference. I think I want to try doing it with a juice I know well next time so I can really discern if there's a noticeable difference.



Yah, BrianCig... lick it...... c'mon, lick it!! you know you wanna!

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tygertyger you have gotten me to the point of wanting to lick it but not sure it is the shirt you posted @giggles@

hmm.. Someone needs to make an e-juice called "vape and flirt"

 

[Projectguy]

Not a good idea. The heat from a dryer would melt an LDPE or PET bottle, and I doubt you want to put a glass bottle in a tumble dryer for obvious reasons.

Itchy shirt

 

[martinc]

Hot water from tap is perfect

 

[Mindfield]

Are you sure it would melt the bottles? I have soaked bottles in close to boiling water (let the water cool a few minutes) and never had any problem. Only problem I have had is when soaking bottles with boiling water, then they melt.

Boiling water is 100 C. I don't think dryers get that hot. Another option would be to use the synthetics setting as it isn't as hot and for delicate clothing.

Yes big no to using glass bottles!!

LDPE bottles (the soft squeezy ones) are rated to 80°C so it doesn't have to be boiling temperatures. And I've had PET bottles (the hard clear plastic ones) melt in sub-boiling water too. The problem mainly is that E-liquid (or PG and VG in general) traps heat really well, and in an enclosed system (like a capped bottle) the pressure created by the expanding liquid and air in the bottle as it heats (and you'd want it closed if you stuck it in a dryer unless you wanted a reason to lick your shirts) can increase internal temperature well beyond its ambient environmental temperature -- just like the way a pressure cooker works, though obviously not to the same pressures. LDPE and PET bottles would pop before reaching the same levels as a pressure cooker.

hmm.. Someone needs to make an e-juice called "Vape and flirt"

Would it smell of strawberries and patchouli?

 

[BrianCig]

LDPE bottles (the soft squeezy ones) are rated to 80°C so it doesn't have to be boiling temperatures. And I've had PET bottles (the hard clear plastic ones) melt in sub-boiling water too. The problem mainly is that E-liquid (or PG and VG in general) traps heat really well,

Wow it really does trap the heat. I tried heating a bottle in the microwave and it was just warm when I took it out. After I started to shake the bottle over a couple minutes the temp went way up to the point I almost couldn't hold the bottle. Most interesting properties of vg/pg and how it works this way.

OK forget the dryer idea it isn't going to work that is very clear now

What about putting the e-juice in the microwave (or hot water) to warm it up. Then to try to blend the flavours together by holding the cap of the bottle with the bottom on my.....errr...hmmm.....argg... back massager!!, yes that was the words I was looking for back massager I have a back massager that vibrates really fast.

Would it smell of strawberries and patchouli?

Wouldn't strawberries and chocolate be more logical?

 

[tygertyger]

What about putting the e-juice in the microwave (or hot water) to warm it up. Then to try to blend the flavours together by holding the cap of the bottle with the bottom on my.....errr...hmmm.....argg... back massager!!, yes that was the words I was looking for back massager I have a back massager that vibrates really fast.

Wouldn't strawberries and chocolate be more logical?

I haven't personally tried the microwave, but I'm thinking I'll steer clear of that one. I'm leery of using it anyway as it messes with food on a molecular level, kills enzymes, alters compunds..... heck, I only use it for quick warm ups, never cooking.... and I never EVER served my son anything out of it until he was almost two. Even now, rarely.

I'd be afraid of what it's doing, unseen, in those juices. For the few seconds it saves, it's not worth it in my opinion. I'll stick to very warm water and keep messing around with the ultrasonic jewelry cleaner..... and of course, there's always the nice dark cupboard and frequent violent shaking!

+1 for strawberries and chocolate num num num!

 

[Mindfield]

Wow it really does trap the heat. I tried heating a bottle in the microwave and it was just warm when I took it out. After I started to shake the bottle over a couple minutes the temp went way up to the point I almost couldn't hold the bottle. Most interesting properties of vg/pg and how it works this way.

Yep, it's kinda cool the way it works. I have to do that whenever I'm making a batch of ethyl maltol solution. After I put the crystals in PG and heat for 10 seconds in the microwave (in a glass bottle), I take it out and the bottle is luke warm, but very quickly after I start shaking, it gets too warm for me to handle the bottle directly, so I have to wrap it in some folded paper towel until it cools -- which takes at least 5 minutes (takes about that long for the crystals to go into solution anyway). Making EM solution requires repeated cycles of this, so it's a pain in the ...., but it taught me to be careful with the temperature if I want to power steep a juice in a plastic bottle.

OK forget the dryer idea it isn't going to work that is very clear now

What about putting the e-juice in the microwave (or hot water) to warm it up. Then to try to blend the flavours together by holding the cap of the bottle with the bottom on my.....errr...hmmm.....argg... back massager!!, yes that was the words I was looking for back massager I have a back massager that vibrates really fast.

lol ... well, that, erm, back massager might help some, but you still need to shake it, or otherwise get some sort of current flowing in there. An ultrasonic cleaner will work pretty well actually, though it will take a while. Ideally, a vortex mixer or a chemist's magnetic mixing plate with a stir bar in a beaker would work best -- but obviously be prohibitively expensive for anyone who isn't into juice making professionally.

Wouldn't strawberries and chocolate be more logical?

Nah, I've yet to have a strawberry and chocolate E-juice that tasted authentic. Maybe just invent a spanish fly juice and be done with it.

 

[Vappa]

I'll stick to very warm water and keep messing around with the ultrasonic jewelry cleaner..... and of course, there's always the nice dark cupboard and frequent violent shaking!

+1 for strawberries and chocolate num num num!

So Tyger, how did your experiment with the ultrasonic go?

 

[tygertyger]

So Tyger, how did your experiment with the ultrasonic go?

Mixed.... I think the jury is still out. I put seven bottles in warm water (which stayed quite warm) for 40 minutes.

Then, in the evening, I fired up a drip atty and started tasting, giving each bottle a fresh shake. I think I kind of gave myself flavor overload! However, I really do think *some* of the flavors tasted more robust than the last taste (chocolate, coffee), and some I really couldn't tell the difference. The ones that didn't appear to change at all tended to be the fruity ones (strawberry, blackberry, apple pie).

BUT... there's another variable at play here which may rather disqualify me as a tester. I find that at 7 weeks vaping, my tastebuds still seem to be changing radically. I love a juice one day and it tastes like dishwater the next. The day I did the testing so happened to be a lower-satisfaction day..... meaning I wasn't really enjoying anything I vaped that day. They were all vapable, but nothing excited me.

I'm going to continue experimenting with the ultrasonic though, but next time instead of a batch of "new-to-me" flavors, I'm going to do it to juices I'm very familiar with in hopes of being able to better discern a difference.

 

[Projectguy]

BUT... there's another variable at play here which may rather disqualify me as a tester. I find that at 7 weeks vaping, my tastebuds still seem to be changing radically. I love a juice one day and it tastes like dishwater the next. The day I did the testing so happened to be a lower-satisfaction day..... meaning I wasn't really enjoying anything I vaped that day. They were all vapable, but nothing excited me.

Completely agree that taste varies from day to day. For fear of sounding mundane and middle of the road I keep coming back to basic tobaccos, the lemon/lime and a pastry. I'm starting to think that it's more the quality of the vape specifically the throat hit and vapour production than the flavour (within reason of course)

 

[tygertyger]

Completely agree that taste varies from day to day. For fear of sounding mundane and middle of the road I keep coming back to basic tobaccos, the lemon/lime and a pastry. I'm starting to think that it's more the quality of the vape specifically the throat hit and vapour production than the flavour (within reason of course)

If that's mundane, then I'm in that club too. I've tried many juices now, and still can't find many I'm excited about. I always seem to come back to a certain Ry4 I like, Swedish Pastry, cinnamons, and absinthe/black licorices.

 

[Projectguy]

If that's mundane, then I'm in that club too. I've tried many juices now, and still can't find many I'm excited about. I always seem to come back to a certain Ry4 I like, Swedish Pastry, cinnamons, and absinthe/black licorices.

I'm with you 1,000% on the RY4 and Swedish Pastry my other favs are Green Apple and 7 Burp.

Amazing when you think of it that in this space that RY4 which is the "first" juice it has stood the test of time and is still going strong.

 

[tygertyger]

I'm with you 1,000% on the RY4 and Swedish Pastry my other favs are Green Apple and 7 Burp.

Amazing when you think of it that in this space that RY4 which is the "first" juice it has stood the test of time and is still going strong.

I didn't know it was the "first"..... and the question has been nagging me. How does it come by this cryptic name, and what does it mean?

 

[Projectguy]

I didn't know it was the "first"..... and the question has been nagging me. How does it come by this cryptic name, and what does it mean?

Chinese acronym for "something tobacco blend # 4". It was the 4th blend they tried. That's as close as I can get for you

 

[albertbert]

Ruyan 4 i think.

 

[Projectguy]

Ruyan 4 i think.

Now that you mention it your right

 

[tygertyger]

Ruyan 4 i think.

Now that you mention it your right

thank you both! Mystery solved!

 

[BuzzKilla]

i thought Ruyan4 was widely known? I've been here way to long...

 

[Mindfield]

i thought Ruyan4 was widely known? I've been here way to long...

RY4 is pretty ubiquitous. Unfortunately it's also probably one of the most varied juices in existence, with just about everyone's recipe differing from one another ensuring that one vendor's RY4 is probably going to be different from someone else's.

 

[BuzzKilla]

RY4 is pretty ubiquitous. Unfortunately it's also probably one of the most varied juices in existence, with just about everyone's recipe differing from one another ensuring that one vendor's RY4 is probably going to be different from someone else's.

true... a few of my vaping friends love it, but i never took to the flavour. i guess i just haven't kept up.