How often do I need to change my cotton and clean the coils?

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Do you mean to tell me the clone you pointed to is actually a 1:1 clone being advertised with a picture of a different clone that isnt 1:1 or do you just think I'm that stupid? ;)

To add to this discussion and point out the differences rather than just state that they exist...

I think there are four different breeds of clones available right now and from the pictures on fasttech you can see 2 of them have a major difference:
1) $7.02 Reload X Styled RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - stainless steel / 24mm diameter / w/ BF pin at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
This one has rounded airflow holes compared to the original

2) $8.61 Reload X Styled RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - stainless steel / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
This one has a really thin squonk-pole-thingamajig

3) $11.88 Reload X Styled RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - 316 stainless steel / 24mm diameter / w/ BF pin at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$8.71 Reload X Styled RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - 304 stainless steel / 24mm diameter / w/ BF pin at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
These two I can't see a difference vs the original in photos.

4)$7.58 Reload X Styled RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - aluminum + stainless steel / 24mm diameter / w/ BF pin at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
These coloured models are made from aluminium (not all coloured clones are) and a) I like how lightweight aluminium is and b) I really like the colour, so I purchased one.
I couldn't tell from the pictures but if you look closely in person you can see the airflow inlets are minutely lower than the ridge the airflow control ring sits on, 0.1mm at most. This results in a tiny yet wide airflow inlet when the airflow control ring is "completely" closed off which is actually perfect for mtl hits, so I'm happy with this.

My overall verdict is that none of these differences are worth paying 10x more for the original.

The break-in of Cotton Bacon Prime takes only a few hits, really. I moved from Cotton Bacon 2.0 to Native Wicks Platinum Blend mainly because the latter is noticeably cleaner tasting, but right off the bat Cotton Bacon Prime tastes even cleaner than it, and wicks juice faster into the coils in addition to that so as long as you keep your wicks saturated and you wicked it up properly, the Prime won't turn to mush before the coils are so terribly gunked up that they look like little cylindrical lumps of coal.

I do intend to try different wicking materials eventually but in my zeal I bulk ordered a lot of cotton and am still working my way through it before I try anything else. I think I'll try rayon next though simply to find out what all the fuss is about :p
 

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Everyone who owns the authentic (and who isn't half blind, pun intended) can very easily see that the little bridge on top of each air duct is completely different, and in fact so are the little post blocks/sections. So nope, 1:1 clones of the Reload X are really nothing more than an illusion being used to sustain the fake impression that some certain individuals know what they are talking about, when the reality is these people are obvious trolls on a forum.
 

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Everyone who owns the authentic (and who isn't half blind, pun intended) can very easily see that the little bridge on top of each air duct is completely different, and in fact so are the little post blocks/sections. So nope, 1:1 clones of the Reload X are really nothing more than an illusion being used to sustain the fake impression that some certain individuals know what they are talking about, when the reality is these people are obvious trolls on a forum.

Looking at pictures of the authentic side by side with the two that you quoted I can see the bridge is indeed slightly thicker on the original. I severely doubt that this affects the vape - definitely not $60 worth better vape. By all means support the original creators if they are pricing things reasonably but Reload Vapor just don't so I can't recommend anyone buy authentic as they're only telling the company that artificial inflation is okay.
 

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Do you mean to tell me the clone you pointed to is actually a 1:1 clone being advertised with a picture of a different clone that isnt 1:1 or do you just think I'm that stupid? ;)


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past tense: styled; past participle: styled

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"the yacht is well proportioned and conservatively styled"

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"sportswear styled by Karl".
"he styled her hair by twisting it up to give it body"

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Looking at pictures of the authentic side by side with the two that you quoted I can see the bridge is indeed slightly thicker on the original. I severely doubt that this affects the vape - definitely not $60 worth better vape. By all means support the original creators if they are pricing things reasonably but Reload Vapor just don't so I can't recommend anyone buy authentic as they're only telling the company that artificial inflation is okay.
With the authentic the bridge is a slat that's oriented vertical, not horizontal. In addition, there are several other, less conspicuous, differences that also affect the airflow stability/characteristics, but the simple fact you are pushing your own personal opinion on others as for whether the authentic is worth spending the extra $60 already proves my point, as those who have been silly enough to claim it is the same are not going to gain their lost credibility back by continuing to push their own personal opinion on others in this fashion. Further, the webpage on the fasttech website states that some small parts are made of a metal alloy that they don't specify so everyone can decide for theirselves whether the potential risks associated with unspecified metals coming into contact with that which they're about to inhale are worth taking. The same also applies to the claim of "rayon can't alter the flavor balance"; this sort of claim is precisely what one can expect from an internet troll who just wants to insinuate that everyone who does notice the difference must either be delusional or be ......ed, or both. Do you know what the word pompous means?
 

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style
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2. designate with a particular name, description, or title.
"the official is styled principal and vice chancellor of the university"

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same
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Sad thing is, you're not any better, when it comes to trolling.;)

No comment on the above debates, but just to point out that there is a user who’s handle is "drippy" which I am going to assume is not the user you are trying to tag.
 

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With the authentic the bridge is a slat that's oriented vertical, not horizontal. In addition, there are several other, less conspicuous, differences that also affect the airflow stability/characteristics, but the simple fact you are pushing your own personal opinion on others as for whether the authentic is worth spending the extra $60 already proves my point, as those who have been silly enough to claim it is the same are not going to gain their lost credibility back by continuing to push their own personal opinion on others in this fashion. Further, the webpage on the fasttech website states that some small parts are made of a metal alloy that they don't specify so everyone can decide for theirselves whether the potential risks associated with unspecified metals coming into contact with that which they're about to inhale are worth taking. The same also applies to the claim of "rayon can't alter the flavor balance"; this sort of claim is precisely what one can expect from an internet troll who just wants to insinuate that everyone who does notice the difference must either be delusional or be ......ed, or both. Do you know what the word pompous means?

Fortunately, the opinion of someone pompous enough to insist that the minor differences between the authentic and clone are worth $60 is worth nothing to me.
 

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I had a post that would've killed it instantly saved in my drafts for a long time. It would have gotten me censured at least, at worst banned.

So I am replacing it with this: We have veered FARRRR from the topic of when to change your coils, and I want to say some things..... That I am not going to say.

If I had never derailed a thread, maybe I would have gone for it and alas, that is not the case.

To the OP: Whatever happened like, even if you just changed your coils today, it is NOW time to change them again.

I didn't enjoy the Star Wars clone thing either.

Anna
 

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Fortunately, the opinion of someone pompous enough to insist that the minor differences between the authentic and clone are worth $60 is worth nothing to me.
Unfortunately you got that backwards. I stated that everyone can decide for theirselves (it being a free world and all), but that there ARE differences to point out so the claim that it is the same is simply still false whether you like it or not; you're the one forcing your own personal opinion on others by touting that differences should not matter that much to anyone. The reality is that small differences in the air duct can, and do, significantly affect both turbulence in the airflow and how loud it gets, the flavor performance and the feel of the vape, and they also appear to heavily affect bigmouthers on the internet because it has been no secret the fact cheap metal parts from China aren't always free from toxic impurities that can pose a serious risk, such as mercury in their gold plating, just to give one example.
 
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... and they also appear to heavily affect bigmouthers on the internet because it has been no secret the fact cheap metal parts from China aren't always free from toxic impurities that can pose a serious risk, such as mercury in their gold plating, just to give one example.

Wow. You didn't just play the Fear Card in the hopes of scoring some points in an Internet "Debate".

Because that Tactic is a page right out of the FDA's and or ANTZ Groups Book.

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Wow. You didn't just play the Fear Card in the hopes of scoring some points in an Internet "Debate".

Because that Tactic is a page right out of the FDA's and or ANTZ Groups Book.

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Not really. There can be no guarantees about what's in the metal alloys that they use because there's simply no paperwork to back up anything of what these companies claim. My main point was some guy on the internet claimed the clone is the same as the authentic. It's not. This same guy claimed rayon doesn't alter the flavor balance. It does. That obvious.
 
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Not really. There can be no guarantees about what's in the metal alloys that they use because there's simply no paperwork to back up anything of what these companies claim. My main point was some guy on the internet claimed the clone is the same as the authentic. It's not. This same guy claimed rayon doesn't alter the flavor balance. It does. That obvious.

Maybe there are some OEM's who are building RDA's with Traceable Certs for the Material Alloys and Plating Processes they use? I have Never seen one.

Perhaps you can Post some Links to these OEM's and the Material/Process Certs they have Published.

Else it's Kinda One-Sided logic. Where what is Supposed to be Bad about Clones does Not apply to OEM products.
 
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