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How the new USA FDA regulation will affect us

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Karstine

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Okay, first thing first. I'll have to say that this new regulation is going to affect those who vape on USA juice. And it's gonna hit you hard.

Basically, the regulation is all about the juice company sending their juice product to FDA for approval. This approval usually takes quite long and it is very expensive for the company. "These applications, which the FDA acknowledges could cost between $3 million and $20 million (and estimates will take an average of 1,713 hours to complete), are a burden that will be too expensive for practically all e-cigarette (vaping) companies. This is because vaping is an industry with many small, often local, companies." as quoted from http://economics21.org/html/fda’s-new-e-cig-regs-will-kill-1797.html

This means that for a lot of the USA based juice companies, they will not be able to cope with the cost and some may actually have to close down. Juice company closed down = No juice of that particular brand. For us, this translates into having lesser choice of USA juice and also a big price jump (to account for the losses while sending product for approval)

The FDA did say that it will only take effect 24 months from when the deeming regulation came out (May 2016) so we will probably only see the effect around March 2018 (Approximately, the exact date is in the 499 pages regulation). After March 2018 (approximately) old stocks of ejuice can still be sold but from then on, every production of ejuice must be sent to FDA for approval.

For those of you interested in learning more about the regulation, ECF has a big banner running on the top of the page about Deeming Regulation. Go and check out the thread when you have the time.
 
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Karstine

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Not surprised that no one here is interested in overseas regulations. There was a petition to the white house somewhere, asking them to take a look at this FDA .... again.

Hope they do it properly so we can get to still enjoy juice with a proper nicotine content haha

Actually, I was quite surprised that not much people care because I thought USA juice is like the creme de la creme of all ejuices. Boleh land really tak boleh with nic content.

we could turn over to european juices as an alternative i guess.

Hahah true true, since Ejuice have a shelf life around 2 years, you can plan to stock up soon HAHAHA!
 

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i'm more worried about the effects on the vaping industry and regulation as a whole,
pretty sure alot of countries are watching what's happening in the US, and will probably start doing something to vaping when a conclusion is reached

UK approved vaping as a safer alternative to smoking. So that's one win for us.
 

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Just got myself this boleh land juice The Choco Recipe! Not bad leh the nic content, I don't know if it's high PG and thus the TH but it hits pretty hard.

I signed a petition to the white house one, cos it'll affect vaper's worldwide!


Actually, I was quite surprised that not much people care because I thought USA juice is like the creme de la creme of all ejuices. Boleh land really tak boleh with nic content.



Hahah true true, since Ejuice have a shelf life around 2 years, you can plan to stock up soon HAHAHA!
 
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karedi

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Undoubtedly it's the doing of the giant tobacco companies..
The only good thing about the new FDA rulings is that at least vaping would be 'legal'.. Hopefully some smaller vape companies would be able to survive thru it all..

With the price slapped on for the juices to get certified, most will probably sink. And the surviving ones will charge more.

And you're absolutely right, the tobacco lobby has this whole thing swaying towards them.
 
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